- Earnings call transcript Q3 2022

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Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to ASGN Incorporated Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Kimberly Esterkin, from Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Kimberly Esterkin

Thank you, operator. you Conference us Call. thank Third for and XXXX Quarter afternoon, for today joining ASGN’s Good Officer. With Officer; and Finance Rand are Blazer, me Ted President; Marie Hanson, Perry, Chief Executive Chief

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Ted Hanson

ASGN’s Kimberly, Third Thank for XXXX you and you, Earnings Call. thank Quarter joining

entire begin, on her behalf our team, Before to we to of ASGN Marie as like CFO. Perry the welcome I’d first call earnings

in With results. said, that participate discussion. let’s to today’s Marie quarter to our turn We’re third excited for now

expectations. in was and driven XX.X% strong. for QX consulting for which line our guidance This collectively record strives specifically it as performance in QX to year-over-year. professionals efforts by team above services record these the exceed by were results our us the closer plan evident service from on bring all and continued clients came in of our the goal would revenues I’ll to remain build XXXX. third and some and As today’s growth possible have year Revenues This quarter incredible for Consequently, been of the comments totaled our our X.X billion is range ASGN not call. to in segment, our quarter-over-quarter three and billion not their for solutions were of midpoint provide our financials, top demand business. meet a later our commercial of X up our largely growth of

of Our consolidated XX.X% revenues. commercial accounted segment for

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buyback adjusted down Adjusted was range, of margin XX.X and X.X% cash the program. making solution EBITDA flow returning approach guidance year-over-year. capital cash the also midpoint which EBITDA balanced, and our above value companies Moving in use of prior over relevant of XX.X% allocation, growth of shareholders strategic best Quarter is year. statement improvement income operations profitable the stock to includes for the improving quarter. through million this million our Free our flexible XX.X% of our high acquisitions areas and from continuing organically was our making business, to and totaled XXX.X disciplined the investing

continued I’d our on provide our performance, following further acquisitions and to like highlights three segments to recent the speaking performance. that Before drive

revenue representing base. most a the First, diverse significant of account large ASGN portion portfolio maintains enterprise and the

commercial segments and us support and our is of government IT ASGN cap the both And visibility for and the bookings third, services portfolio, these executing against market with position remains provide favorable in the larger Second, XXXX. with favorable ASGN successfully opportunities. well

review the let’s Now segment performance.

double performance financial quarter up our wealth while and digits in to top as revenues provider year-over-year banking segment’s QX discretionary, the digit XXXX, a was quarter versus consumer in digit with utilities, in X,XXX of for in services. prior companies or compared over led accounts. From commercial increased accounts. and staples. double growth largest telecommunications, Apex the organically technology five systems retail Healthcare had for as both growth double amongst energy, strength reflected across the payer digit four compared in Revenues third management by for industry of high with and segment growth with and rates. the with the TMT grew digital enterprises and lower every solid million the industry Impact Progress accounted to and even achieved of low Creative due had another difficult an on of quarter both single perspective, comparison. verticals greater services we that our well was and accounts. in which Growth XX.X% accounts exception rate year-over-year growth part prior out digit of and business in technology, sectors telecommunications large particular, and growth consulting a revenues services division IT XXX QX, achieving specifically, segment, rates industry commercial government the our the driven XX.X% marketing year growth industrial period. Our and quarter accounts of all experienced achieved materials. growth growth double Fortune again the In with solid our industry improved last XX.X% commercial Within also systems, consumer as year in double media staffing digits services XXXX year. FinTech

led business in was our our growth by digit growth particle in Finally, business mid services single services accounts. government and

year Gross our third performance. commercial XXX.X of high ServiceNow permanent placement mobile where up XX new development, our the quarterly work million our up XX.X% from increase points for While our web, margin an accounts analysis, and XX.X% and Revenues for defense application of work the and basis architecture consulting growing engagements, contribution and totaled Commercial migration aerospace for driven the along margin, commercial commercial year-over-year with revenues cloud and XX.X% organically. the lead single versus by prior solutions were consulting year. and derived low data quarter, business. up digits consulting was segment prior

which new XXX.X of Keep trailing XX.X% a X.X X.X quarter, quarter bookings quarter. month XX the also and a This mind commercial typically basis. is seasonally, third to We roughly bill up lowest had for into totaled solid to on X to translates our blip in X quarter a consulting million for the year-over-year. book-to-bill

a early performance healthy outlook. support Our October bookings

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Marie Perry

great Thanks, with speak today. to Ted. It’s everyone

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quarter deployed the ratio X.X XX.X the year-to-date and secured debt the shares on senior have to XXX,XXX quarter common for total the of Our X.XX million leverage during repurchase was repurchased for shares million approximately of we of company’s million. X, stock a XXX.X

guidance. our to Turning

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consistent revenue billable and Net to of to remarks. and year expect XXXX. the growth XX.X% and sequential fewer The decline adjusted now year-over-year full call anticipate for Ted? adjusted attributable XX.X%. adjusted range quarter. guidance I’ll primarily margin The to gross over Ted quarter of EBITDA growth EBITDA midpoint Thank income compared back the of decline closing fourth margins of turn you. We gross XX.X% our for growth and XXXX remain and EBITDA days revenues to relatively relates sequentially. to in profit in sequential estimated

Ted Hanson

our since we introduced been Thanks, in XXXX. plan year three September has just Marie. a over year It

have in things the these we favorable, XX in past opportunities. demand against end our executing many successfully markets remains months changed While and are

resilient Our the favorably a operating ability and future. strong to enterprise large portfolio ASGN position succeed quarter-after-quarter for comes bookings our with account us down to maintains commercial government model. diverse that

some I’d as us laid to of enables strategy last deployment our on three are that with we of that that capital best background, customer act where flexible versus in the year acquisitions the provide out like new including by With are provide successfully we plan in completing stakeholders, solution tracking but balance high demand capabilities a Our all base. to interest us commentary September.

first third three you Investor For the range. our the Taking growth strong the acquisitions, in in Starting reference, rates revenue year full revenue growth with we in and line growth plan projected half the the previously a continued of of track rates can within anticipated top find revenue, to presentation the business posted year account Relations expectations. given website. continued ahead and and our the remain Analyst into the outperformance growth of quarter, Investor baseline

As X.XX X.X our And sit from this billion deploy a within XXXX. billion reminder, squarely acquisition we in plan on to to XXXX based to-date pace we to acquisitions range.

of guidance the toward better the terms percentage if our are across tracking of in adjusted Lastly, line are than growth with currently and basis. not a seen we pleased tracking range revenue of both Overall, a EBITDA and we dollars of expectations. the high initial are end business in we’ve our

While the IT and in the remain work contracts evolving strong. for may line types market services be of and client requested ASGN’s needs, solutions demand and with

demand strong service ASGN future also our project our sets to differentiate offer clients quality the type solidly us we pipeline just the of years. our carry provide is it’s combination that that continues competition. not with into from in for the apart that will after we fourth the in confident That We’re quarter business services this the said, of it and project

work hard and As entire like dedication for sincerely to this I’d our remarks, again our your quarter. past we team conclude thank

to let’s reflection a efforts. your certainly With is question. open Operator? success call that, of the Our

Operator

answer from this question Instructions] first William go Mulrooney question will [Operator We At Blair. be Tim have conducting and with the time, we you. a line ahead. our Please of session. Thank

Unidentified Analyst

Sam Tim, question in But quarter. Hey, think modern on it We for the this we this break broad again. management, enterprise. If for IT down thanks three given times here. last is makes being on our spend digital in those to transformation asked check and in this I sense questions taking buckets, we’re workforce

be You see area softness would mentioned where one you would enterprise first. that the modern likely

other cracks around you then can any if maybe seeing level you about buckets? spending two that So also And that the any there? you’re other high talk thoughts in have

Ted Hanson

trend as bucket we’ve a Yes. The part the particularly suggest little growing the mobilization and a digital capabilities. pie. Well piece on most will growing big share with is start and of pie. bigger workforce ServiceNow growing of transformation the And the is been smaller is but more management enterprise the the bit we modern a still

as we in So I think the continue about just we’re ServiceNow you enterprise seeing like digital see typically modern to continue thought we we’d to the grow. to transformation what said, where around

Unidentified Analyst

comment you Then the the slowing is more headcount been on us. macro know seeing. given Can the we’re But that the kind now? more one at on demand been aggressive down curious pretty of uncertainty strong you’ve you’ve that pace internal for it’s all, increases? here, your to capitalizing right I of headed

Ted Hanson

we’ll well, have go. Yes, we look, as that monitor to

we our that’s think time third And where in we’ve by growth just kind headcount So an approach bit revenue. headcount grow less opportunities will that of market. of here. follow And I growth to quarter, meet invest we the business the through pace and period of little than in a a over our to have continued

not we growing pace quickly in or to the So by that see something marketplace, at we a slower can if developed headcount it. growing react pretty

work to natural lever understand rely pulled have a and have that on or also rates attrition the which well We in past. lever that watch we

in the for continued just in that forward, third to We’ve address we I’ve have we the, So invest we’ll of as we opportunity market. to what going have quarter, see as the say, get.

Operator

you. Thank

question from the ahead. next Truist Sommer with of have Tobey We line Please Securities. go

Tobey Sommer

to data seen you and differences sort give Could ourselves. better series booking quarters us you business, number understand consulting since what a you of it’s for over seasonally of years like and XQ. we something lower in don’t but the the XQ a those In you. what Thank have seasonality activity sense already about between talked

Ted Hanson

let commercial everybody go federal for I’ll So Tobey, I’ll give separately both if three to seasonality. about Ron that you we quarterly and talk years. book-to-bill last the the remind for the that supplemental,

there. So Ron that But on be and typically. commercial out data QX anything why is will

Randolph Blazer

Yes.

don’t at was if very looked First the ‘XX. a year. for their but quarters, Tobey, it’s quarter other honestly, lot we marketplace. mean, now ‘XX beginning smallest, COVID, bookings quarter at think of have budgets commercial the why two, with XXX, a three to set there answer of again was believe. although I all, seasonal, look them an you, when we the you necessarily you three the Same And Tobey quarter, I at healthy. the of I

years, not years count, Some it X. them of April calendar began are on but in

do out So it budget But with it it to anything more their way. else. that does work than probably seems cycle has to

Ted Hanson

but QX the then you QX this difference thing in our government end calendar there’s this, almost the new commercial quarter. our only was the group is the as And that calendar always here fiscal QX. bookings of And which for federal federal strongest big for is the larger year, I book-to-bill Tobey numbers that see and the the a the will federal Typically, but market. and market, and year, here add just between

Randolph Blazer

understand consulting over in been last the sort how so I few I have the shine patterns the but through and that. Yes wasn’t we you’ve of data, years, seasonal dependably supplemental sure would area acquisitive

You segwayed the into government.

business? about decent to but new you question that were I ask re-compete. was amount inform or the either Contract going was quarter, that. of growth our was that much I healthy to expectations out of awards, in the point a in How for So federal think

Ted Hanson

that less existing half half was little have that we re-compete. one than A contract new work. growth didn’t more than of number on or work little was A before

Tobey Sommer

the – here maybe next XQ of next competes us look aiming to XXXX see far? and about extends the It year way resolution is you’re early contract sort pursuits our does questions part inform get the that in in and/or that at you of over to calendar as two the

Ted Hanson

of most Okay, heard asked. you so I what

You blipped bit. a out little

the of the fiscal from calendar So of I the the in think quarter is new because government light, booking a that wave very which usually, light is QX QX. first standpoint, year,

year, little the may But that’s little I a coming think more the COVID be off in be that’s and different. of just, that the we this about the cycle government budget a more number. contracting might There strength from new think situation QX agency March. the

and this, I to election not may try think everything it and have we’ll any, that get on affects how the we and if watch me to see like But to bid that out a to anything the feels the difficult comment it out working can play XXXX and I for of hard see can on tell street you awarded is administration lot be they beyond. it’d in activity.

Tobey Sommer

that discrete was for acquisitions, not and contribution quantify Could the quantify I from the think the and the which release impact quarter question press on me. closed think in you. the but fourth Last acquisition don’t profit Thank already that Thanks. one, you October of incorporated revenue guidance I guidance? consensus.

Marie Perry

Hi, Tobey.

So yes, the we million XX about acquisitions. from fourth talked quarter, so

of and for other there. is Vine about rest, Iron so is half And half the right that the

Ted Hanson

acquisitions. true high the these of margin the on teens side, this to from in generically, say, we margin as and expect well as case Then contribution Tobey EBITDA middle it’s EBITDA rates

Operator

you. Thank

next have Silber the please Capital for M. We Jeffrey with Markets, of BMO go line question ahead.

Jeffrey M. Silber

much. so Thanks

mentioned or on seeing bit potentially talking lengthening all? little sales you guys early And bit. been about This cycles quarter, any Are work. had a having services ending difficulty firms a some that more the some selling of projects IT add at have of as other

Randolph Blazer

I would more normal dose it. nothing say the than of

Jeffrey M. Silber

But I’m me something federal forgive margins looks to and And looks It out segment. Was both point just that adjusted there? over EBITDA like sequentially down switching to year-over-year. government in segment it. miss just specific were reading like if the it and there

Ted Hanson

going drive that’s dissents. margins thing mix of the there are our The to

to there’s want Marie call out specifically. in I there anything in so And otherwise. you don’t think add can anything Yes. you

to out week. nothing this call So

Jeffrey M. Silber

how a sector, is this in asked know, are Thanks. one line small. talk few in what that people I business. more, the can it’s and And had me Okay, just it ask that trends about great. But to I’ve we of cybercoders. large

Ted Hanson

because cybercoders we a talk individually, true, can’t the are can that about about overall we we it plus, consulting, contribution got have and other faster that expected but quarter told slightly the to perm growing we second acquisitions lower units here. of in revenue placement overall. like Well, you, mix, third We the which to commercial talk the be you’ve is addition

second So going It in continue to to going sync come to our in and X% down. gave is over and fourth in And between X% a somewhere quarter, naturally, be little the the that’s kind what third quarter. the peers it’s I it X% that of just quarter. in was think with

Operator

Thank you.

line We question have next go ahead. from with the of Heather Balsky Bank of America. Please

Heather Balsky

to That performed perspective with line margin wanted taking perm how and the if you for And of some sound the terms I then question regards cyclical. piggyback we on into placement. your side curious does you tends try to off business and thoughts saw general, I’m ability business in in provide the help for for of could during that of go speaker terms COVID often? to in just of a industry your last downturn, better. you margin in that staffing terms thank Switch hyper my be Hi, question. the to if what business

Ted Hanson

Well, of we do. in part is look, most that the business staffing the we way is general. manage true. the it That’s why Perm cyclical placement

we’re be with I to revenues the have although over nicely, it we going said together, the if they’re percentage like to but was said mix, a together down just very specifically, creative month to performing lower it what quarter, circle expecting looking we’re going fourth based we similar earlier, fourth As the total during COVID revenue one what said out is it’s XX% into perform the the we a believe, of it’s a we of and on quarter in percent market and period. expect, we’ll that as before. Today break

look at to has small it piece I $X revenue that is of billion So way probably as mix. best think a very or X the

Heather Balsky

is help on any Thank that small the revenues, cycle there a through even you think though impact down? to EBITDA your you. color thoughts of or if business can just EBITDA and it’s us And part were

Ted Hanson

I XX% number mean, margin. the a it’s again, business gross think said scenario. think it’s part gross will because then be look, And which on hack what But you business mean, a it is effect it’ll think the one two down, on can around the is edges don’t that pick what I could won’t but I gross of do own At to crusher, before between and has contribution we’ve that seeing, kind those seen it effect be if an we’re you won’t units. downside be based but first, that’s you the not margin stopped again, big, the to Well, we of biggest in more think I is going past. on you Certainly least a it, what bottom to be if margin the it. contributor I the that line. your

Operator

you. Thank

ahead. from Surinder question the next Jefferies. go have Thind of with line We Please

Surinder Thind

I color Any sequential when is, you guidance. any you. I like mean a maybe count. with the start for to Marie, don’t more I’d decline Thank that math, bit question provide see adjusted sequential I there. the like, and do on what can a around day growth color by

Ted Hanson

revenue side? the On

Surinder Thind

XX. XX side days revenue Because versus Right. the day count On yes. is

And of within I And what like that’s our then adjust the adding to type number. So XXXX to environment an XXXX your number. acquisition get for that, an get kind guidance. in I

says there’s of that revenue So that growth sequentially. it’s, not kind

Ted Hanson

you billing we’d adjust So call four revenue X%. from coming into sequentially. QX. about there’s slight days, it QX Once those growth, for

Surinder Thind

the were And color amongst of in in segments? any terms it. Got

Ted Hanson

terms In units individual the Surinder? of business

Surinder Thind

Yes. is correct. That

Ted Hanson

guidances Yes, the the level. our at with for ASGN enterprise

to going fourth not say leave it the both down. going are we would But performance we’re to break here have at that. I So businesses in just it quarter.

Ted Hanson

quarter unit, to days you And billing in up adjusted adjusting you’re federal the you and third. slightly it have adjust, just call the fourth acquisition in but out, for from right, for the

Randolph Blazer

commercials positive And slight

Surinder Thind

the in the have business side? in seeing. maybe consulting terms the the talk you versus cycle about IT contrast in you’re that you visibility macro we the staffing services just of compare visibility guide about the of where and to then you’re firms, are of provide those when able And terms are, mix? XX/XX in of they’re we that you or revenue in are Can you other trends guys two your the terms guidance tend and how they about now comfortable side Maybe in bigger out maybe in think to

Randolph Blazer

It Well, months think they’re would north staffing, of consulting, little a I our somewhere half approach they’re visibility Surinder, said year funded. more a and term always than we year, six months visibility a discreet start, year have and and we we’ve because to that. will are signed or nine longer have I contracts

to can moment. the at posture decision make course, today a So any of staffing, in client change us with their

our sure, base given disability. I months between that So and for consulting. out but staffing more is comfortable think we’re visibility account definitely pretty we somewhere for between X XX have Consulting to

of for because predictable I’d the much year more, it’s the fiscal the it’s side government funded. say are up and On set that government contracts similar,

So consulting we business which visibility type right. a is relatively have good there,

Surinder Thind

whereas that’s of revenues? should do terms I that Or safer to that, your sense about in there should down call the of or of about a in are clients? it clients staffing visibility part the we component, cycle of behavior related terms maybe how we And to question business would that focus that tend in think the also in the consulting, that differences thinking on would more with be then one the component reactivity in maybe

Randolph Blazer

Ted, very I’ll decision or a surge portfolio. quickly resources would cut make the the a most to is clients because already, our placement start, of is but total be to add current cyclical I matter appears can resources to small Staffing in along it’s the most think Ted’s cyclical, line. percentage mentioned anywhere

mind it path decision roadmap. making. consistent. Consulting So your be budget But that off That little won’t projects they’re by change probably or line running. well on and along mean redirect a a it’s to our clients somewhere for the year, bit They tends the more usually they’re doesn’t are clients thought one that’s sensitive out definitely a to on they more the work. have and

many Now, well having us very Surinder following that years. said

percentage in nine no there. work lot lights is and our we no so were side, infrastructure, certain we’ve the in eight, the had, our in a of keep That’s is For most the business. of work, well, COVID kind the staffing an part on why a period, commercial staffing pushing

of infrastructure but into you some business, of the the most next, infrastructure a consistent placement lot the we’re by small, on if achieve and and pushing will, said. are more Staffing more consulting there So spend, a as to uncertain, prem projects client. those that out are But components well that go for definitely small by objective be part the an our although a of our more you because thought or accounts, a it, see different doing size revenue still the last, work generally are you’re it path. annuity, pathway as Ted

Surinder Thind

it Got for you it. me. guys. Thank That’s

Ted Hanson

mid make day follow after question, commercial up again And and to on you please when federal slightly Surinder if the for adjustments. sequentially do and call, single want you your the up up up billable ASGN slightly digits and

Surinder Thind

Got it. Thank that. follow I appreciate up. will you. I And

Operator

Thank you.

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Kevin McVeigh

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Ted Hanson

saying? fourth coming you’re quarter, what Is So the third from the Kevin? that

Kevin McVeigh

Right. Yes.

Ted Hanson

Yes.

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Kevin McVeigh

did And then obviously in from little what contract, was But web the sounds wasn’t the sense it was? It’s margin. much margin like the lower help it that margin revenue how quarter? benefit there. of the any Right, because

Ted Hanson

the the I or XX contribution plus each with mean, said in we million associated and it is it. past, I think no minus quarter virtually Well, had margin

Operator

Thank you.

We have line next Mark Baird. ahead. the question with Marcon of from Please go

Mark Marcon

of How’s how I talk to was on you call. bit contract those now a GlideFast? afternoon, can Apex the about and Good profitability between contract contract of to kind of like compared based that systems expand the joint wondering, Marie wins? joint you little the could welcome you’re and sorts a what quickly seeing a single

Ted Hanson

to make a you you that on will, to none. the first they it’s licenses. about it’s I’d in And GlideFast when is growth we win win bringing all, the with Apex we Mark, basically ever do second bench, or a Apex has have account applying of and in but Fortune account. capability. Apex penetration systems its win healthy to because Fortune if XXX And if the ServiceNow, the it’s expect Well, sure the XXXX anything GlideFast’s to like you ServiceNow, this if huge Bill an listen talk working and commercial than Apex GlideFast environment. their never area, other client and will, that’s the in rates, one the paper, it to troughs McDermott then in team understands base we

companies a way. most way, ServiceNow are I in will small say a in of Bill would not enterprise also Now, very I tell using large think you, these Fortune XXX

room So there’s as service agent lot for a us for products. as them of opportunity and company, their a a of here and

we We which lot made guess last we based We GlideFast of own when price I talked So, expect it didn’t based I synergy. was there’s which that GlideFast about between priced performance, we quarter, we mean, it the us. synergy publication, stellar. on said in the great the acquisition, a on or

Mark Marcon

reason questions around with been lot terms of in multiple have regards because there slowing, through is a the Obviously, of cycles. the for to visibility. been some interest rates that increase concern given you’ve is then And there macro

some And of Rand, you’ve a of in hearing clients secondly, are navigating kind cost of Ted have, anything just your your as are or in thoughts Can hey, down? aren’t and who through in might great clients, terms done of just of remind you among familiar terms you be. people ability you you, with with prior need components about, variable you concerns First for to we and those all, cycles. if as you can adjust people terms job XXXX Fortune the of that slow

Ted Hanson

Right.

hop So in let can me start and Ran here.

clients doing right of are rates even What slowing areas lots in now is in So the but headlines not maybe IT. that, we’re or finding about news are that of hiring, layoffs.

normal, sentiment hiring. work, specific think than a piece or for accounting changing on said any I So the up that we’re maybe disruption around, other Ran of seeing here not signing earlier or not there

conversations data are just or cost away, that analytics transformation I’ll or cloud, gone was where the a So haven’t call they move of think to digital all lot reasons just that us these we’re improved things using can’t otherwise, that in right regard in and call because a what normal the on teach clients anything to optimization and And watching news. going just all the other continue, what’s now.

people in they between too you, some IT. of I or companies overreaction or going to this, now. and when So any have separate many wouldn’t the in you I hear of bifurcated you on from kind to what Mark, our and logistics, really big kind say warehouse And what’s administrative headlines, have saying these that right clients or think have the of

business not When as grow we or to find second may our your take So the to all, now grows we slowly, that more take. the adjust first at P&L be When would know that to probably naturally thing. question. that we need the we the actions business that

margins, gross well So margins if pretty are revenue intact. is lower

profit with so And that. together gross moves

profit. mostly it’s and fact those in highly compensation. modest incentive. that in highly adjust like of It’s And revenue and fixed variable, the with is it’s changes SG&A terms costs gross Our incentives

way, COVID as best the bottom in that is private back through go nine can to And comes period a in this it maintain the similar we example stable So that APEX when and eight Ran or things. the margins And during pretty then went line. obviously company and that. see of you saw

and here day things clients play that than our of just things, operate are that big And such important they fixed there secular seen how a done. around So shop internal for Not the part change years. out every get workforce. for it’s just tool an new them we fabric we’ve better but

that them projects technology And so by operations to operate they way, are and business. help us that and them their to stand need important in the accomplish the

Mark Marcon

Got lastly I obviously it have an that. then election we appreciate And along. and coming

would particularly happen contract announce a during the to duck signings from increase number you Do actually the a of And pace perspective? session, party kind space. there’s did the going really nice think of is on government the what You split of here? decisions a if lame

Ted Hanson

then think you’ll but I that report, pace see our quick our of peers QX. the and look, and numbers, we Well, evidence

they’re solutions getting government and out Machine the you, I the it AI cyber work a strength during as more into first I support quarter, these maybe power, get who’s things. parties do the you’ve or will to continue not two And modernize budget Again, bit there sector the party it security, any in build is then continues things to quarters to What there Learning, comment to happen it to not and around in different are we that needs and It’s overall now I think a the think there, if became effective. QX. can’t it think was Those for it here began in And on to seen after this the is bookings it’s and and little relates that be happens new threat I system for away. in QX And going the in less can do. our So will so power. situation that going really that. tell we easier. grow. whatever

Operator

for back to gentlemen, Thank Hanson, you. the And session. question turn answer like I’d have and remarks. Ladies we end the and call closing over you. Ted to Over of reached the CEO to

Ted Hanson

you, Well, being the forward outlook February with fourth our in appreciate earnings you of I release for first operator and thank speaking and on QX and our we XXXX. to discussing look call quarter everyone and quarter Right. the

Operator

today’s Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, concludes conference. this

at this You time. Thank participation. you your disconnect your lines for may

ASGN (ASGN) 27 Oct 222022 Q3 Earnings call transcript