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Monica Webb | Senior Director, Market Development and Strategic Partnerships, and IR |
Elliot Noss | President and Chief Executive Officer |
David Woroch | Chief Executive Officer, Tucows Domains |
Justin Reilly | Chief Executive Officer, Wavelo |
Dave Singh | Chief Financial Officer |
Welcome to Tucows' First Quarter 2022 Management Commentary.
We have prerecorded prepared remarks regarding the quarter and outlook for the company. A Tucows-generated transcript of these remarks with relevant links is also available on the company's website. We urge those listening to, or reading this commentary, to first watch the video we posted in the investors section of our website, on the videos, decks and reports page. The video discusses our transition from reporting business segments to reporting separate businesses, which begins in the first quarter of 2022. level how high our best provides results. also context to on follow It a following their question-and-answer analysts lieu ir@tucows.com, live In of XX. period management email investors invited until May Tucows’ and are these to to submit questions via at prospective shareholders, remarks, your or Eastern XX May will transcript X recorded PM and in at audio on address Management will Tucows be website a response Time. that posted questions directly, to the approximately and Summary, the would last key which also as KPI is like with Ting XXXX Build XXXX, financial Tucows' results available services, in We our five Internet Scorecard and the the years and well the provides that for for updated Investor of updated of of advise includes along as now Presentation. all Investors for fiber website, metrics full Quarterly financial results, and to historical section summaries businesses quarters, the
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