CWST - Earnings call transcript Q1 2018 | Casella Waste Systems, Inc.

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Tasha and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Casella Waste Systems, Inc. Q1 2018 call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. there a remarks, session. speakers' the will question-and-answer be After [Operator Instructions]. Thank you. like now call to over would to the turn I Mr. your host, Joe Fusco. ahead. go Please

Joe Fusco

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John Casella

XXXX XXXX Joe quarter pleased morning quarter welcome everyone be and Thanks good results. conference our to and first first all. We more with couldn't our

in a experienced release, the conversion X.X% strategies of tightening solid the execution discipline last reported As XX.X% flow year-over-year. up we were up million flow adjusted our cash yesterday's cash year from year for our last was $X.X year, continue up from revenues drive press free strong to normalized in with and EBITDA Northeast volume. maintained quarter given banner the waste markets. the pricing our waste We disposal on we continued continued focus numbers of our and evidenced as price solid The programs is for and

ranges the by to our Our recycling for recycling the and other to price in execute have we the all across ability waste XXXX. pressures, was strong our performance in confident muted segments guidance we reaffirmed financial continue group remain solid well commodity Despite headwinds.

our are that well We laid last XXXX. out first executing XXXX August we plan against in

creating key strategies our incremental profitability been working driving operations core solutions. our increasing collection to additional well. exceptionally within strategies XXXX three include the resource which returns, plan, we areas, continue and With These focus landfill value have through on

of areas delevering of plan, new two allocating smart our with G&A new balance and and growth. introduced focus we capital reducing improving to addition, XXXX as efficiencies cost part In

landfill We operational advance sourcing in returns execution, permits. continue key to prices through efforts programs, volumes price enhance our the to at of higher new

the to about excuse a -- -- XX a month waste Juniper approved by roughly DEP tons me, solid metrics March, Ridge disposal XXX XX,XXX the month of of had first pricing per and excuse we in-state increased In XXX municipal win year tons these at year-and-a-half by permitting landfill increased across the site. quarter, the X.X% During dynamics of about permit Both landfill months me, XX% dispose one landfill our Northeast. quarter. year-over-year. the We roughly underscore tight extension during non-bypass, or the

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with successfully which NetSuite QX with we made our was and We the include on system, time ERP launched essentially are progress pleased which our XXXX early on closing books budget. have recently,

effort. team as terrific, ability step to our significantly over Just increase technology and plan effort efficiencies make terrific furthers key to a that our back-office marks our a of time. entire This tremendous part happen, really

our on to delevering strategy Moving of balancing growth. with smart

$XX a We by have revenues year goal million or development million to $XX are three to acquisition off set the for years and next grow tremendous start. through per a activities we to

we and an the of company over we the months, in four million integrated acquired tuck-in Massachusetts. last was notably first in Complete the waste comprised revenues. During acquisition approximately Western more have operations of and This several $XX two small closed Disposal, solid acquisitions quarter,

provides robust we the strategic Complete actively that we number the acquisition our view and could we great on and Northeast are of tuck-in fit highlighted with us year. fit. XXXX. targets operations in the over markets a plan. our landfill long-term acquisition in that we direct of board remains close across market are hope see past, to we the opportunities believe pipeline great $XXX of million be and As as transfer rail Complete The bring that to strategic there capabilities over tons working next or worth be the And capacity in permanently with XXX,XXX have truck will acquisition on

through alignment of framework financial Our and ensures acquisition resources. development discipline strategy, and our continued returns

cash will that generate returns delevering enhance above to of either our synergies, drive immediately to given a in and fast in our and be XX% of flow opportunities delever. range on capital, a synergies organic path per are and the will operating pipeline. well focused unique opportunities growth to are believe vertical have G&A XX% and grow we cash We cost integration, more or recognize to flows position year Ultimately, opportunities we development our our that acquisition free our at or

and the in country months Resources our struggling building last new key on another Human to for and attracting new drivers companies team across company the of six roles on a welcomed retaining about paths focus As career is and highlighted ago Trucking company. VP the quarter, employees. for mechanics. build are with We to are of program retaining key area and working

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strength to through great as upside headwinds that, We expect the And opportunity. pricing robust with the will to is continued pipeline mentioned, us acquisition very in waste offset I it recycling Ned walk I a volumes and over and to provides our turn financials. solid and with

Ned Coletta

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transportation first Now including for $XXX.X quarter project of up in $XX.X the a and year-over-year. large new were sludge onto customer mix organic contract. the the remediation a our quarter changes million, in up XX.X% disposal quarter. million, XXXX soil revenue, Revenues a for or few There were a in grossed that

items, our year-over-year. million, X.X% two these up revenues or Excluding were $X.X

Price $X.X $XX.X in collection revenues year-over-year the XX.X% up up $X.X acquisitions fees Solid volumes were higher increased improved and year-over-year, with up million. of waste volumes, from ton disposal or up were strong $X.X million activity. risk pricing, and We higher line X.X%, pricing acquisitions by was line of we X.X%, the fees million, Revenues by solid driven year-over-year reported up of business $X million. impact with more and up lines the X.X% importantly by disposal million higher by the average focus up price were collection or up volumes XX.X% growth across making the our million and increased all million rollover business as pricing, waste volumes. and our per landfills acquisition recovery of landfill Revenues recovery we We advancing X% business. of risk of as with $X.X in year-over-year customers price up of our X.X% and the increased X.X% continue ton price to at in pricing region ahead mix we per on average volumes. $X.X Western

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this customer Our project. vendor small manage a to wanted single

were complete all improved points. work. vendors Total to XX hire the excavation, additional with up adjusted and through cost So these the basis metals our needed we to soil landfills compressed recovery revenues EBITDA third-party although pass by cash as margin tons of screening, grossed to transportation flows our

down lower roughly a landfill $X.X million million third-party by mainly partially quarter, million lower the were ton, commodity from fiber revenues across for quarter the down lower prices XX% cardboard of and XXXX waste XX% categories. prices pricing. XX%, a intercompany higher another ACR, continued volumes Overall to down of $X.X April to April fees. April throughout per continued year-over-year all pricing. to fees. March December from March with the pricing are same are volumes on with million prices were the from strengths and Sequentially, prices lower pricing, commodity revenue total year-over-year period. does actually commodity OCC dropped into over negative Recycling with or decline has down paper in during the of $X.X as ton commodity April not $X.X Average This XXXX during XX% Our we drop down trend driven XX% tons they account say XX% paper with mixed offset most quarter, tipping and through million was or year-over-year this as paper were higher tipping down by This further. up $XX

a contract new sludge through impacted margins we third and quarter in and adjusted contract strong been was This our have the But the Organics flat built that the guidance stay April negatively commodity year-over-year the disposal the rest year lower prices million XX of This mainly CapEx, by cost. on note prices However, roughly please with no note associated passed have for as commodity flow the basis please transportation to two-year EBITDA cash we modeled contract. this revenues requires T&D that that $X has a free for of higher into actually was remainder returns. and high volumes. year. were very up party

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prices, Solid was by fees operating higher with operating million fuel waste offset period. costs, and driven adjusted $X partially intercompany $X environmental higher $XX.X quarter, was and recycling fully and recovered with decline Increased EBITDA Recycling lower lower costs. volumes, million strong energy were costs million million by tipping year-over-year pricing, XX.X of volumes down commodity higher during up by in fees rebates. the offset adjusted our year-over-year floating also EBITDA higher partially the by the fee lower higher

as million about processing fees waste were in to was during had mainly up operating previous start rates activity higher with driven higher doubled our costs of our volumes. year-over-year. to compensation by select tighter and and in no up with $XX.X this, the other and pulled mainly Our to and up were as more disposal $X.X higher the in period costs General were we cost higher slow year-over-year large costs acquisition residue there like services related China. as was higher out debt markets nearly Think cost improved an accruals higher by a the year-over-year year-over-year we costs market landfill tough the year-over-year were operations $X.X mainly Depreciation a $X.X bad Cost backhauls due up costs meet million about up categories. new to to we million Adjusted standards, and volumes, transportation organics stream and performance of roughly inflation up million were or quality effort such group driven seek segment, increase had and also as are comparison equity $X.X third-party $XXX,XXX increase by in the recovery was million volumes. EBITDA This amortization Vietnam. cost we the in India customer and with really up administrative on to amortization period. labor benefits, driven by increasing

move as contract included roughly that first ancillary including for brokerage $X.X The return. of charge contract. a the quarter for to charges, company a cash XX% is to recycling contract unique note want I out million related positive a several settlement we brought this

a with booked Southbridge million development related also for landfill cost with expected also Country We to million project of and the $X.X the we charge Landfill $X.X with closure the established of the Charlton as efforts. expansion charge, approximately had part charge around associated a $XXX,XXX of settlement reserve a our Town North

normalized assets on up million and differences timing $X.X cash was slightly was operating the positive This Our million in in and flow year-over-year. improved lower by to quarter, slightly landfill contracts. CapEx due lease mainly free operating lower increase driven liabilities, performance, changes $X.X payments

XX, defined XX, December X.XX XXXX, is X.XX as net times ratio, our consolidated since facility, our down As XXXX. by leverage credit of was which times March

total is Our up debt was XXXX. $XXX.X from million, million which XX, $XX.X actually December

total recycling $X.X completed we quarter brokerage is million we debt for as that a the purchase two of price paid up cash $XX.X sequentially exit to Our contract. million in acquisitions and

discipline, of smart growth laid leverage business, balanced three with with to on and down reducing continued focused plan, X.XX the goal we in further our As to getting acquisitions. investments turns capital we out through on the leverage XXXX remain

Standard March BX has Our with outlook. a rating BX. credit family B February debt corporate XX, Moody's on unnoticed. B+ cash And Poor's on our from a reduce to increased increased X, corporate rating flows to from gone and actions to reduce improve our And leverage, positive & not

We quarter, remarket small interest April offerings. million fixed our unsecured completed the new successfully two after XX-year we at bonds bond rate Just tax-exempt X, two existing into $XX tax-exempt during a rate X.XXX% of term that senior on period. bond VEDA

a that for for FAME of bond million fixed senior $XX drawdown at tax-exempt with X.XXX% the completed unsecured X.X also period. term year We

in EBITDA for the the Please commodity the Given for off budget completed. and year, budget other flow haven't our our from $X now and impacts commodity the expectation EBITDA year markets the expect Despite not will XXXX be free significant foreseeable adjusted recycling not given future, low business. about recycling we our of the to been by adjusted rebound headwind, current million. pricing historically cash we reaffirmed fiscal though note ranges any normalized the that parts guidance the that acquisitions guidance strength include in revenue, does that

include and the during hand rollover acquisitions With does will it XXXX. to early However I over completed that, Ed. from it impacts XXXX

Ed Johnson

standpoint, had a good Ned From an start Thanks to the morning very operational year. everyone. we and good

hauling well as Our and and segments customer solutions disposal group. performed organics our very did

masked are by on numbers recycling. overall what going in is Our

through you walk me I before let math So some simple continue.

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Operator

[Operator Instructions].

question Tyler from Brown the line Raymond first James. from comes Our today of

is open. line Your

Tyler Brown

guys. morning Good Hi.

John Casella

Tyler. Good morning

Tyler Brown

the on have project. phone, quick Hi. clarification. remediation It Ned, may just but been up my broke a you

a point XX So Did say it a Or drag basis was point it at $X.X was million was it margin? you to margins? basis revenues. in XX

Ned Coletta

a XX margins. It to was basis point drag

Tyler Brown

To margins.

Ned Coletta

some to whole typically transportation important on move don't materials a and project. do manage contracts. the We and screen. us through they But We customer times us go excavate really to sites wanted to this or and was disposal

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Tyler Brown

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up. broke quarter? I the So from it Or a kind of a last anticipated was in just on was surprise? was apologize guide that it that. And

Ned Coletta

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Tyler Brown

is And correct? Okay. completed, it

Ned Coletta

There little into of bit QX. it is goes that a

Tyler Brown

Okay.

John Casella

It is completed now.

Ned Coletta

now. is It completed

John Casella

Yes.

Tyler Brown

right. All Okay.

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Ned Coletta

Yes.

of margins, waste solid take solid rev was not our if you solutions. away, rec waste customer well and any So hit in has recycling It margins. really

Tyler Brown

Okay.

Ned Coletta

waste hit doesn't margins. sludge this And on

hauling even XXX know, market-based through because were up from And So basis project, about the our XXX about transfer businesses. waste XX better it's our to soils contaminated basis our had we basis as you business year-over-year. point recycling points from we that, margins pass points. But up rates than drag were solid we and

backwards, a So a fee Well, are while commodity it we their Ed and SRA dropping we are recoup SRA as to trails. fee goes tipping that. curve intercompany little said, got fees back because prices to increasing

solid had well basis and recycling point headwind as from waste. XXX So about we actually

for So solid it's just absolute period waste. a stellar

Tyler Brown

Wow.

you basis expect color side. the be I million Great quarter, think Okay. $X that last you you unclear, am expect and $X is million But be little million? Is year-over-year have the full on headwind Or about million that of on noted this headwind to $X $X a I on what to you that to a year? noted million. to top the $X recycling

Ned Coletta

Sorry.

budget the for missed and miss and you so about million saying we add expect So in then million by have the we are that. was now budget to we by million to full the $X $X quarter and first to that year $X

just off through for the Ed of doing haven't our When full At said we be are into impact. year any year, year bunch these plan landfills we flat $X $X prices like So it's we plus held are position, low we to at guided them. million, heck do we about commodity rest these million for we of laid of improvements. But and a the would $X we about the to out down for that year-over-year today. things forecasting about had we but million improve the working put that are

John Casella

to get improvement do SRA we fee. the When am to

Ned Coletta

is Yes. I way to know any do hopefully little other are hopefully Well, there today. we probably, conservative. a it if don't

Tyler Brown

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John Casella

are labor Ontario, The is a basis, was don't I basically spec. to done basis. think new facility the to again costs, any that's our pieces, from completed same it's a we we absolutely And impact as Rutland gives have part ability where was ability well, we material transportation obviously us a it it capital shipping completed, one that of of spend. the we The moved where basis cleanup have the going but the costs. capital labor thing. to capital the on the place particularly The labor, we on the to we our justified change on to justified and but technology fair get technology at We Ontario perspective.

Ned Coletta

If and you our change that thing. in change ago but contract recycling is structure or rapidly inflation was risk more business. very programs we a year, rapidly. have never But about updating fast flash And a look always cost structure on we business, inflation slight right labor our we garbage on our things one they realized as very, cost the been in a slight at back never the are. year-and-a-half could really you changing One learn until very about in time, as are we transportation, now

back our when change don't pass legacy structures, have contracts, they the entered So to day customers, some contract in that. With from if of we we modern to ability that we the most have our contract.

eating cost those that with we are higher contracts. of So some

Tyler Brown

Okay.

John Casella

from we in to aggressive too, a a things we Tyler, standpoint. is turns recycling the pretty embargo contracts the municipalities is are have other a doing to very that other were are few those them role contracts we left taking with and force of One of There regard with that that negotiations majeure fix handful have that. to

Tyler Brown

the but those effectively, lane. Vietnam that's low to markets. am you a then are I was because say, cost lane. saying on comment, like and free basically headhaul backhaul a going backhaul It's China so places very boxes highly India, imbalanced But are And that Ned, Okay. to sending

are going cost they you lot a So more. to

John Casella

Double.

Ned Coletta

Yes.

John Casella

than to China. markets those go to Double it to was

Tyler Brown

the Okay. just you really normal even belt contamination, dumb down? slowing to question, get may selling produce And are you be as them product? but a if mean, and I this run I slower speeds Tyler even China. X.X% not you the why to can't thought a why weren't them classic

the product? big asking So Or if for a you can't to are why improve meet cleaner push buyers a your standard is anyway? quality there

Ed Johnson

is the This general. Ed. Yes, in market whole

has So China market. out now the of pulled

going your So product take. what material other buyers your homes more they picky going and are take, now trying they getting to what waste about to for are the a bit to are are

So to it got be cleaner. has

Tyler Brown

Okay.

John Casella

Tyler, The because standards done. what China impacted market, are for of has every

Tyler Brown

gears. And then up last per Great. Okay. it just one looked here, X.X% maybe like shifting Disposal X.X%, pricing, ton.

there. inclusive Is correct, remediation? but that the again unclear little that's a think it's I of

Ned Coletta

No. volumes. That through project landfill as been did statistics. just pricing would have not flow That treated

volumes this volumes stations volume and we as wrap you transfer our at we see look up disposal statistic and line transportation If project including $X and disposal That is there. through year-over-year. the million project,

Tyler Brown

ahead to you. and queue. Okay. Perfect. I jump But go back in thank going am

Ned Coletta

Thanks Tyler.

John Casella

Thanks Tyler.

Operator

next Grippin. And of our from comes line question William the

Your open. line is

William Grippin

guys. Good Hi. morning

John Casella

Good morning.

William Grippin

question the a on had Just tuck-in.

So right? to close revenues, acquired get in that must the Am $XX thinking I year-to-date. or you acquired of to it in but press $XX million math, $XX based have to that million in some basic release I see spend XQ on April you imply of the that seems million chunkier about you noted have May? revenues had something

Ned Coletta

Well, tuck-in Vermont, in first acquisition hauling the that the couple a a we of an $XX.X completed Complete for day year, a happened small first We year, days had million. the the acquisition tuck company and in into million acquisition this and another had gets several $XX New close about our it that of tuck-in businesses to March then of on revenues. XX, we Upstate York

William Grippin

All right.

those So multiples that seems imply a on favorable to acquisitions then? fairly

Ned Coletta

Tuck-ins, you were. right They drive and done synergies through values. if

You take generate synergies, drive to driving will as of the but on from or more north know, that of [indiscernible] returns Complete like well The to we deal value all internalization a we it's XX%. after-tax the deal re year unlevered track expect well.

William Grippin

Got on recycling. one it. And one just quick

fee XXXX, of revenues course the of guys rest SRA as in over just expect a up? would recycling the So improvement sequential catches you the

Ned Coletta

runs actually fee SRA the hauling So business. the through

it's line. fee through our So other recognized

waste. one see month. other the you it So and fuel to set value running trails do expect We commodity it fees through the be higher. month's solid in looks it the to previous month, at If price next

So we QX into be little higher bit do expect a to it than QX.

William Grippin

Okay.

like it's fee? collections any straight SRA just the line on reflect price? Then So a doesn't recycling

Ned Coletta

a businesses but that intercompany up tipping in statistics, Yes. do that our up the fee to their Things but and fee in get of doesn't stuff we is it business it into a profitability. behind recycling there the a we in show merc, little dollars scenes, what because processing is confusing the moves charge shows

William Grippin

queue will Thank just you. Got you. now. Thank That's you. in back helpful. I

Ned Coletta

Bill. Thanks

Operator

Analysis. line of question Corey comes Greendale next our And the from from First

line open. Your is

Corey Greendale

on A morning. Good quarter. nice really job the Hi.

have I may reasonable Greendale thought dumb So Corey I but questions. was totally question some Tyler's

this, volume? solid that so if price internal first I So project, through am all, to impact on all? was waste I it totally growth, sorry just at soil clarify, of Or the you did have the said want

Ned Coletta

We volume. Through get stats. two different pricing

we remediation you at and price same weight, be the they period-over-period release of type total tons takes and the down volume disposals. price of same and ton revenues the statistic change have actually $X their gain showed a average like customer, new all ton up of at statistic times, And positive the that do then press to give the new in was volume, price our at divides per or at this And job per it any is the in is will a look by funny the in price and volumes ton soils blended in the year-over-year period give per million project customer how very a the what's we price volume rate but slightly, site year-over-year. the in we a average that. our many it company our So also beginning average an change statistic. through customer. And come But

Corey Greendale

Okay.

price, in And put it the you just lot really number overall good. the the a like dynamics So is was for sounds up market. it the obviously of

that reason, I commented, might is there like sounds should but it So sustainable. apologize, you have again sorry, be Is that accurate?

Ned Coletta

we view sort number. it When a grossed It's It's increases, you some that our number. true is. against netting rollout It's rollbacks out that with price. any price like are not of

year. with sticking of We have gives and street they gone the change. to expect So have as through remainder the price visibility good us increases, been we to don't anything materially

John Casella

the year have the next historically that that have or probably There XXX,XXX so we year. capacity said at this I for an three XXX,XXX over end had because we another I of think think certainly or next years. got we over out we last the that Corey, couple so market think out coming tons that the opportunity of of coming years, of the is

there going And few the to is out the out that going lowest the So next coming waste capacity into we facilities. market continue think to move all be for of substantial amount additional in are priced to of have of the I that a we consequently, years. position

Corey Greendale

Yes.

the that guidance you given kind So the this is stating reiterating of are get different. but but pieces totally probably there are the obvious,

seems beginning be the for the talking gave you the that about that year. it pretty of volume and probably at likely growth Is something price above that business waste would both So you original, solid fair? the

Ned Coletta

Yes.

Corey Greendale

versus without the prices? Okay. out Kind more there or higher of talked impact moving lower granular, the that possible somewhat a about the specifically recycling. pieces about on then already have transportation costs? processing on of is and too But of year-over-year to is recycling EBITDA, effect splitting quantify it getting Good. than you way, just somewhat And

Ned Coletta

the from cost some elements, said and pricing hard some processing earlier, heightened of it transportation in not. year-over-year other from do million, the we programs to because And our legacy our have recovery of as cost total. $X.X historic higher programs, it's separate contracts

So about it, but commodity then moving tipping to you fees together. we and up intercompany, higher third-party both rebates price we and had then it headline we of customers all But melts are have processing some fees, reducing kind costs. declines, we or

little backwards. a you when out So are together, we bit all put

Corey Greendale

Yes. helpful. really That's

Okay. also strong. the $XX year? And is are in then looking the still million free flow at CapEx the free for assuming your In keeping guidance, flow, you cash cash

Ned Coletta

start about Yes. slower. little Landfill CapEx got little winter than of The we has late. been slower the up year. slow with forecasted. We bit deliveries to [indiscernible] Truck little off a bit have is extremely a had a probably construction a full been ramping

John Casella

are winter the quite not or sure We has whether left us not.

of the not are yet. bets may I are We was taking bets any yesterday. But know. get We any the It taking we degrees more still not XX snow, rest don't for week.

Corey Greendale

I sitting Yes. in here highly Chicago. emphatic, am

this assuming both have and that just have recent But a So that? expo others, not recovery And week, they like said you a of somewhat being one. prices. at earnings it maybe you OCC haven't seen and Or it. last in just seen? sounds conservative calls I And get are

John Casella

think it. that seen I haven't we

we a any significant see now anything just that that us that rest to reason at this that in see gives project our a price are our rather to are see that we to We levels the projections at than raise going that have going for increases. reason to perspective prices. price be we increases at think of point. don't any more don't are we We see of sense is I see year the the

could little bit is more it that if think difficult. a with more difficult a things that Vietnam potential gets get In and mixed there Thailand paper, get fact, could I India, saturated

Corey Greendale

XX Got it. to Vietnam Casella have guess the right one calls. on But I By word having world have I for your probably that's the the I would now, mentioned covered now. way, just heard years thought of I never say

again, quarter. Thank you. job So nice on the

John Casella

Thanks Corey.

Operator

line comes question from Brian of next our the Stifel. And Butler of

Your open. line is

Brian Butler

for taking Hi my Thanks Brian. morning. questions. Good

Brian Butler

ask guess more. I some a because well, why Just more on not couple recycling

like total you now million SRA possibly fee structured, $X currently the having at some that? improve running $X from we levels talking million? to as million about reduces may to and Can that additional $X just a sounds cut you headwind it about. ways So With talked are little be pricing staying bit half? Can Or is million in it it's give that current really of more magnitude? of it $X it's

Ned Coletta

Yes.

So the big moving pieces might get year. not fully this resolved

of cost. are back, contracts there And So you pass to about. it have higher issue where buckets we legacy don't fix that of is to that part as a the we if for we if us is behind, until break transportation, up have all roll-off no that allow processing talked they way

labor investments some method see get out have test if in a small to can little and we strip efficient. a We couple of made more a

legacy a backwards John is, are But You are -- talked about customers we like the as earlier, we good a that we are on they working look solutions. handful on, few with these news haven't contracts at that things

John Casella

that put guidance. haven't into We the

Ned Coletta

They are -- Yes. not

John Casella

and force if paper. handful because banning we majeure the contracts, and guidance to not There that are able we to embargo right paper now But are of in place renegotiating mixed because issue mixed that magnitude contracts some a at the taking five upside that renegotiate China are are be those. the all, would of to three with of of issue

working been rest into represent those but contracts. that. the we for are to guidance if were our the upside would through represent sure. not upside renegotiate some year, of That incorporated It's numbers it some for to would we some of So the

Brian Butler

they are then can that you the just what have or ton, current that sensitivity or a maybe little on us And up impact levels? from would a $X changed come bit, million? up prices if the $XX remind kind Okay. of it's If XX%

Ned Coletta

Yes.

or linear. as of So share. levels, commodity know, a $XX $XXX,XXX prices are programs our or $X.XX EBITDA move in at about completely for you operating income it's current each And

a we above are bit. complex are threshold, levels, our a are little a moves the $X.XX you point ever where dollar on threshold we the our was one, above that customers. and on depending So if with sharing in made around Ed profits more our the but earlier it us recovery,

So XXXX. that we recycling above was, part in year-over-year headwind QX of in thresholds were

we fell threshold, we then $X.XX piece below every in and fall we more. start first dollar as So that when the lost we recovering them, on below

it's kind Where of are. where are you now, it about So Brian, right we depends on $XXX,XXX.

Brian Butler

there can in in, about replacing the landfill that you side, the completely you the have that a you being a XXXX either we are or on the coming more little that then have are And higher new half tons those already at price? talk Great. more those additive the into the how Or that's for sell? or into tons are much more Okay. are on of capacity going volume about adding to And room that sense there should second how upselling volume? think XXXX bit

John Casella

I have think capacity. we about that just million tons under excess a of

in So the we Western have excess region. capacity

to think place We I have probably contract. or some still fourth we roll-off the our in waste contracts next begin in terms will fifth out so. have are lower under the view, are, price over that in larger are that that the that in we year coming market moving or facilities the that below inning of into

in are to we So or I regard think with opportunity. fourth terms we of inning are probably fifth in the where

Brian Butler

there bit little for just on a the color the Okay. more out give of that rest? and then you kind And the can solution, works how Great. strength organic on

John Casella

laid in on $X $X.X that solutions then remarks. out new new new place, just retail kind customers, T&D and sludge into Ned of customers. customers, Sure. was multisite his customer retail up went new various was million contract And that's Yes. a Organics up it contract. million industrial

I a new job really great team So customers. both from great revenue from mean, and standpoint the organics job

Brian Butler

Okay. and total the Casella And shipping Any color? landfills the [indiscernible] to Is then the two more. there? expansion

John Casella

Well, yet. two Not things.

as as place favorable truck a very contracts. have a now, both right So we and from contracts are well from contracts got Those in rail transportation standpoint positive perspective.

standpoint. we is internalize to years. XXX we I And got Good are have and permit X,XXX. from the think a process good few from community. begun we going the application, expansion support The permit from that the And have will next We support current the MassDEP. over waste probably permit

One some waste state. out their strategies to of of solid ship is That's waste strategy. their

DEP also the community, we got most support have So but from as both, well. importantly probably from

it about facilities. material good to us that, it our probably take so expansion. permit, month will of will can the year it permit by period Ontario, get get end to to facilities The But can will can several of to get Western to think through our begin have We it the six will some we West. have able to over is, probably sites. of it We So internalize year time to get to in our should that before a next pretty We waste all we I it get much of our that Chemung it beginning a to year, Clinton. we time, region be be or to part Hyland. the

for facility in region. us the a the help strategic terrific the to million company it's tons of we Western have So utilizing capacity additional that

Ned Coletta

next critical Southbridge will be really because becomes It year closed.

John Casella

Right.

Ned Coletta

York. get we of most New to Massachusetts and got So have tonnage out likely that out to some of

Brian Butler

then just the one. And Okay. last

guys now? cost of for capital calculate You mentioned cost do What number capital. you right your of the

Ned Coletta

So our weighted X% you is average capital, assumptions X% cost what somewhere in use, range. the to to on depending

And development adjust when You looking doing opportunities or risk are some when there's anything. level you of acquisitions, these risk are through. things you have at to

XXs, assets, get teens, well. returns how low it at on is in fits looking are what if mid it and So depending XXs, after-tax our it to unlevered depending with and on fits typically we opportunity trying the high

Brian Butler

Great. very much. Thank you

Ned Coletta

Thanks Brian.

John Casella

Thanks Brian.

Operator

the James. line Brown Raymond next Our comes question of Tyler from from

Your line is open.

Tyler Brown

Thanks follow-up. guys. Hi the for

Ned Coletta

No problem.

Tyler Brown

include but revenue I pricing, remediation apologize. still I tons. said disposal I project? the am you basically does it's thought X.X% over unclear, Ned, that

Ned Coletta

Yes.

same-store. actually rate too big. big project, weighed straight remediation So the which not a period. the was said a rate was the is X.X% than C&D to include slightly X.X% little is is third-party slight But and remediation anything is, low price tons. same landfill site. that on what customer, project it X.X% I or lower in soil that It a recognized the that, And typically it's But at a and the earlier does MSW a but decline for actually

Tyler Brown

exactly. Yes,

was I the ELDs Okay. turn looking That times. Ed, what for. I so on color and was loved

of York are doable So talking are New Massachusetts, specifically out those you in a about that landfills Western day? your

Ed Johnson

like we now. Particularly Western were wholly the bought we transfer where Yes. Mass, [indiscernible], station in

John Casella

XXX,XXX permit's Also the go an from host Tyler, have increase we in that's keep currently, an in place. place move facility permit to tons as mind And that will do to there the we that XXX,XXX. a harder tons to facility much community in that year year. at that we of year option Chemung, at close It's XXX,XXX with option and It's from obviously the a a to end XXX,XXX run Southbridge.

Tyler Brown

Okay.

John Casella

have Chemung the that from Holyoke waste station And is the round-trip a great to Holyoke we which of move obviously transfer facility. some to

Tyler Brown

Meaning, is Lakes? where or Right. the Is Finger is am curious, event trucks? horizon? those after on the that it where just I call, turn I before going am it, what physical limitation but to day

Ed Johnson

from, right. it on it's depends where So coming

Tyler Brown

Well, say Mass. out Western of

Ed Johnson

past would it Finger. the Western go Mass,

Tyler Brown

It would.

Okay.

Ed Johnson

route Finger And we the anyway. those are going underneath for Lakes

Tyler Brown

Right.

Ed Johnson

Ontario. To

Ned Coletta

a lanes. in small those transportation to New up in XX is well, of very sites it then to Western day. round-trip today that tougher and like, it A Hakes take other, are there one Greater on a makes a bit good hours to area in run run it waste City landfills further It's you day a bit little this the want New York want is little and lot come to Chemung very away. York is XX from nuance, you are hours you six to all Hyland or site. trucker, also But And Ontario, a if to

the kind and Our lanes. routes them is good a for really a XX perfect hours utilization of trucker are to that lot lot asset fits of which of XX

Tyler Brown

Yes.

Okay. Agreed there.

I come from to So recycling. a at perspective. it one on last kind But of glass want question

mistaken, market? that being happens? already going the here, glass that And Northeast to guessing I not end recycling say up largest the ultimately just of What million if glass I So am to was the tons recycled, I an in constrained is landfill am shuttered? but in mean

Ed Johnson

potential a that. is do to There

Politicians that specs incorporate as of specifications and be beneficial of construction of no have are can used Transportation choice are they aggregate. for this because Department to a figure that There reuse. they at out Some is it trying companies into looking to point at whether will in number time. substitute regulators

to recycle want it's have at if continue are glass, We think it, Tyler, to going other to have be, find to going doing to look to years been about to but they have because specifications, aggregate them we done I perspective. are for that some talking they going to currently or able to get in order paving it They in be are manner. uses in a the specs to coat as commercially from specs to got the viable a and reset base to won't that though too allow stringent have do

to I And be back think there not, are if is the So going there some to changes there. then landfill. potential glass go that will

Tyler Brown

Appreciate Okay. Great super your generous have with it. time. listen, Well, guys quarter. you been

Ed Johnson

you. Thank

Ned Coletta

Tyler. Thanks

John Casella

Thanks Tyler.

Operator

for over this I to will no further are the there closing time. presenters turn questions back at And remarks.

John Casella

call much. Thanks Thank being to forward August. XXXX with you early morning. quarter We second on our this everyone the very earnings for you discussing look in

Operator

Thank day. wonderful a and for gentlemen, participation. conference. ladies This your today's concludes you, Have

Casella Waste Systems (CWST) 4 May 182018 Q1 Earnings call transcript