BZH - Earnings call transcript Q4 2018

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Beazer Homes Earnings Conference Call for the Quarter and Fiscal Year Ended September 30, 2018. Today's call is being recorded. And a replay will be available on the company's Web site later today.

In addition, PowerPoint slides intended to accompany this call are available in the Investor Relations section of the company's Web site at www.beazer.com. At this point, I will turn the call over to David Goldberg, Vice President and Treasurer. begin. may you you, Thank

David Goldberg

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Allan Merrill

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Bob Salomon

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be slightly. up We to expect EBITDA

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David Goldberg

by Bob. quarter, acquisition. prior than spending spending in land spent XX% our Thanks, spending with land and was $XXX XX% about more acquisition The up In the at development the development on year. increase driven and versus million Venture primarily the we

land full-year, we communities, the land million, nearly many $XXX year formerly versus activated completed cash million two assets. invested prior in and was For as spending acquisitions, up $XXX the new held

has mission increasing far you our by higher been improving can we've in thus slide our returns our drive on asset dramatically time, our without see EBITDA to some success XX. base achieved For assets the

in time surpass to begin ROA expect further non-earning to for quarters. we count of a currently have improvement revenue thereafter. our of additional over components should expected than community slide the XX, XX% we million total are allow improvements On us this assets assets forward, that Looking more produce coming on will and we the growth as drive $XXX

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As the remaining our our announced program. at million of marking $XX $XXX the senior million the retired XXXX end of completion notes, debt September, repurchase three-year of

before due have debt XXXX. Following no this transaction, we

expect want XXXX do And to full-year are year. giving higher a we however, in we expense as guidance, our amount make interesting fiscal While through will that comment expectation our lower and fiscal interest for a year the expense. cost of the with incurred in percentage in interest flows see timing spend. the will detailed amount interest 'XX, our sales actual reduction on be of a not in Based prior to of depend of I revenue our land about on revenue repayments

are cost of over amortize We interest just direct year $XXX goods expense. the will assumptions in million interest spending minimal currently next sold with be

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Allan Merrill

Thanks, David.

us on us we are the to opportunity call assets balanced improve have the results higher growth year. double-digit upon with to take operator and address challenging resources our and in in team to to And confident strategy, higher gatherings. strategy, strategy Operationally, market are our I'm to I over with execute the right to Our strong for in the XXXX to results buyers well-positioned Financially, to their to conditions and people, the the this over profitability disciplined the the now a coming increase in deliver us I'll the and XXXX combined more allocation our want allow community we approach years. focused we beyond. plan an and have those on turn as and capital the allowed plan our expansion with count that, Q&A. return ongoing efforts. right thank with ASPs mortgage we right should achieve

Operator

you. Thank

Rehaut, now will Michael [Operator Our We from begin JPMorgan. first question-and-answer the Instructions] session. question comes

Your line is open.

Michael Rehaut

is just, morning Hi, broader I then 'XX, the guidance and everyone. update your on reducing question kind which to EPS on versus the of think before. questions, important positioning, above good A first, update for a as regarding But couple firstly, guidance fiscal $X.XX of $X.XX well.

if thinking that coming year the the additional buyback the includes just of difference and and/or from, the - line, down how try for XX? are that And you that for If gross statement the you $X.XX, but to about - could includes margins? me to saying growth break just million kind stock wanted to get where also expecting either not $XX.X from is clarify income closings you're you are remainder

Allan Merrill

It's Good Allan. morning, Mike.

not second part the the take I'll the rest. million first. it but Yes, So includes $XX.X

we've changed, I of our kind of there things reflected main what terms updated guidance. In think are that three in

have we 'XX. fiscal is assumed sluggish the that first will pace The in be more sales

have spring. selling season. the hinges on As approach cautious next It's you adopted may spring to early, more what a unfold lot a know, but we

assuming differently has going same an And to less that change of income we margin, think land. growing little gross conference spending adjustment sheet. we is manifesting sheet the away to itself little to pressures do pulling the a months less in changes statement, during but now that's amount interest. for the of bit a cost five we fiscal in and explain grow at land is We're one the this Dave said in tend is more doesn't a of timing The and themselves. balance call the we're not comments, Secondly, effect third, we're from balance right as that result, some And to bit in buy if land a And not understanding sheet reduced ago, was And 'XX. to maybe lot, potentially a his going format, sales the the there our have rate. assumed. expense we in previously lend immediately that see as than harder I through interest the expectation spend year on balance to but

three change there, the ways elements, it's would So all lot those three but factors are really in to guidance. our be and a of get the to there of primary those

Michael Rehaut

Dave million. point No, that interest believe on I $XXX that's you of Is helpful. that amortization last very expect said And around that expense correct?

Allan Merrill

even be to factors complicated while nuance, Yes, little guidance. we our our said it's one lower. 'XX, is think And would higher than I it in a be that of million. strange interest in over statement income are And the 'XX but a will a quite little true $XXX circumstance, bit explain, in the incurred in though that in bit

Michael Rehaut

that. appreciate Right,

offering let's say, you you are that expect within obviously well. would the in a of competition the increased potential that What in of it a moving in industry direction. rest lot of first-time of down through you if sense front. Secondly, hoping the approach, active your mortgage out in obviously multiple break kind a what I get first-time any XXXX, competition are say gatherings differentiators, you and that of be adult adult has versus positioning acquisitions area maybe to as up made and that of in particularly your differentiating what came of on for result been the active the between bucket, some market? was points how buffet kind you adult, of or the mix attributes And program, entry-level/first-time within builders the which your active product first-time the around shift move first-time your choice in the your your as kind mix of and might, XXXX it to

Allan Merrill

Okay, lot a so in that.

very appreciably the XX%-XX% range couple empty buyers, of percentage and or years, quarter in of the were active in that active single-story hasn't can call XXXX, but to not high modest ranch a somewhere adult those relative our 'XX, adult in very to that in change the first-time are mix buyers. you really have of going twist I mix business buyer in livability. a And in what positioning were last our changed to towards also few going to buyers, but nester serve plans about But it's buyers small actually much adult that our out, grow active or are and portion Gatherings of we Gatherings the Our next years. the price over communities, in is into point with

roughly in two I to any and see been the we've cohorts, those near-term. XX% in So don't change that real

you how withstand palpable about that there In to big that their homes put program to of differences. one we score those shingles bona terms that buyer more ACH quality, I mean This house of know our you long-term buyer a online, Well, in that And we are the other in an two get report affect they be a do. of any This differentiate to a cost acquire it's it's we as cost entry-level their are is of occupancy, homes our roof able we what those verifiable, first-time they is the talk home mean, framing first-time buyer in these things our little to to I about factual the but company, underlayment, a And they've home. their different about educated aleck, builders waited team but of talking interests. construction techniques, but fide to the it's are for HERS an game to are. that we well on sophisticated, a where talk to Award, to on STAR for our demonstrate them be competition, do And don't an things a from mortgage where to things are think then smart how and call, wrap, can affect us. their any we third-party has monthly who serve become putting are sales and quality easy it's or to not ENERGY livability, some we ownership. start us things we I do of that do, to earnings effort is our And are powerful what a real home, understand a very interests, very who they're are communities. hard honestly, the explain we're don't those to things differently.

Michael Rehaut

Thank Great. you.

Allan Merrill

Mike. Thanks,

Operator

with Our & question Alan Ratner Zelman from next comes Associates.

open. is line Your

Alan Ratner

Hey Thanks good taking morning. for question. my guys,

a looking to just little at one, the spec just dig wanted numbers, XX your first here So slide on bit. in

But roughly as the change, like similar So, XX%. pretty at specs and still builders And look trends XX%, a broader over I up seen looks levels. absolute obviously, completed it's we've they're total at from right market whole. specs low from other and if

industry. specs, about it you as I'm how as you're thinking more leaving today, curious bit levels get that's to So company for a Is spec heavily uncomfortable? now? both about at And inventory starting you right the the more well as are how those maybe bit and running just talk are you a percentage starting treating how to are incentives incentivize a little

Bob Salomon

is Alan, Bob this Solomon.

your question. couple a think around things I

First spec and program dynamically off, so control all specific that our on. communities going company, with the we of starts I still in what's pretty the manage

we're to selling year. think really as specs overall we've throughout been the with is question, I pretty comfortable answer your it the more level,

own level the company. community spec where set our landing level each we're with we're totality comfortable in pretty since we've for So a

fourth sold other bit, the mostly they in thing program spec acquisition to happened we where with first-time as be quarter the It's up built. did specs. that buyer really more Venture, pick little The traditionally opposed homes of here a

bit your but number comfortable up bit, I'd think up So sell to that I the XX to And year-over-year, certainly yes, related point they did points in XX basis incentives them. margin. a with our continually since incentives little say is, that we're last bump are a little

here seen in kind I we've been that's the things think quarter. fourth of where consistent go

Alan Ratner

of sure data question, to and your starting I'm appreciate hear more I as to could, second that, if - credit you are access DTI certainly And Bob. high of guys statistics appreciate Okay, I we rising a are mortgage concern market some Allan, have the then through but not total, I this loans side. comments on choice, the the percentage the especially if affordability the over mortgage at that you seeing far borrowers as more lower at give you either alternatively, more for some that is your business? you that as discernible Are to stretched? perhaps looked concern affordability FHA. could at high Or any DTI Have that credit if getting at the cause on some edges, all data or start Thank your FICO you see trends all? on impact buyer you. borrowers tightening

Allan Merrill

So at we at data do level. look we do the both a macro

familiar and well. statistics. So as GSC the LBA the my FAJ role in that I'm And I with see at

seen So I'm discernible with lenders, and aware tell in in business credit of it. our discussions have really would and you their priorities underwriting preferred change quality. I we not our our a

created that keep attuned it's mortgage I that. And I we a I the underwriting am when eye exaggerated story this mean, on. pretty an of to point. to don't We're something to I that discipline, hyper supply the easy lost problem. of very to financial see is tell market at crisis think it. attuned the that signs

Bob Salomon

the what said Alan, would Okay. kind jump Allan of on I there. back

it's remember differentiated our that the to for buyer's have are very also You mortgage with choice, competing lenders program business. a

more get have buyers us than and access gives that to you access certainly captive. more gives think to lenders to I loans our what

differentiator big even think and rising a So it's in a rate more it environment. important can be we

Alan Ratner

Got it. Thanks All right. guys.

Bob Salomon

you. Thank

Operator

Citi. next Finnerty Our with James from question comes

open. is line Your

James Finnerty

a on solid Congratulations morning. quarter. good Hi,

Allan Merrill

you. Thank

James Finnerty

that mentioned coming land stated repurchases. debt ended share also spend debt you thoughts beyond low-end range million that if you than the in the front, the your And reduction. that at million then, your or range give alongside the there? $XX up might 'XX, up Could $XX reduction could in just lower towards to in On mean of be your more reduction 'XX

Allan Merrill

Jim, it be. could

I to do of see think committed general terms in share share markets based and matching on the we our the that kind what of conditions possibility and for And of we we've spend million, the repurchase spend is if there's it's Certainly, certainly warranted. set to $XXX land not, but more if $XXX debt in we reduction. the million, up to were the markets. repurchases

James Finnerty

the in on par? And make Would below debt the longer-term outstanding. or focused it trading sure that maturities how we about would debt reduction think maturities of near-term terms be are that's

Allan Merrill

telegraph at are we'll the opportunistic not we this give to at, been But going Yes, as And to point, in it's specific market talk strategy continue comes repurchases before we a we and are our premature about debt what game we've it kind together, will to now plan. be. looking more. of

James Finnerty

you. great. Thank Okay,

Allan Merrill

you. Thank

Operator

comes Our McGovern, next question Credit from Sam Suisse.

line is Your open.

Sam McGovern

Hi guys, thanks my for taking questions.

think actual long about you cycle it? a about course very you do where piggyback obviously, a absolute know how of be distribution how the about to of do debt a over the I about you and leverage but you Just I question tenured in four levels James's how an times of leverage, debt targeting but do have want on levels, you you you're on terms levels, mean, you talked debt know in terms think EBITDA the think figure, absolute how

Allan Merrill

want debt about, together to higher get talked that we debt. total help ratio absolutely want but us the less to the earnings less debt-to-EBITDA have to We and things and have two we

Sam McGovern

buybacks, Okay mean, the it million in think I be the the do you should about full of in over that, how it. And then, Thanks. terms 'XX we of longer timing the timing fiscal of $XX or got term could expect there?

Allan Merrill

debt I debt share the will mentioned little look, sorry. I'm or probably [indiscernible] on the side side, side, we Sam, bit a On as

Sam McGovern

Both stock and debt.

Allan Merrill

timing the forward, announced will moving available. along million the we repurchases as thoughts we Well what kind would discuss for market depend of so what's do around certainly today. and the on that we've the with conditions share and We'll $XX.X continue release press overall ASR on

are debt timeline the when but from the we premature In definitive and perspective. certainly that a probably have it again, it's we give terms back of you little we'll thinking to come plans about

Sam McGovern

was it ASP exposure that of in on the terms and growth, last basis? store of prices Okay, versus same higher just got how regional question much the driven

Allan Merrill

XXX% assumption, come There's our backlog year. through will a just got P&L mix backlog We the mix. no just this the different slightly It's in that at look as ASPs.

Sam McGovern

very Great. much. Thank I'll you pass on.

Allan Merrill

Sam. Thanks,

Operator

comes question from next Instructions] Credit Susan And Maklari Suisse. our [Operator from

is line open. Your

Susan Maklari

Thank morning. Good you.

Allan Merrill

Good morning Su.

Susan Maklari

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Allan Merrill

Good morning, Su.

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Susan Maklari

target product for in very is, preferences My of question about terms that's slight second of as drive maybe use in order do next to ASPs incentives Thank there? increase Okay, coming like helpful you how get and in this to, changes that about continue you. are the that to things to and double-digit volume Allan. and, the of think ROA some you that year, relative

Allan Merrill

of we a Well, lost. count this that know is community variables, lot with larger there are of sort and the

I up. think, count goes the assets don't community change the directive if

You've in count. going without great one that that, generating future the 'XX the starting we level spending and the the land to in been possibility from of in activating for are more are the community aggregate created assets and money because profitability. that got we a really And potential a have the assets your changing have are ROA really asset revenue of community held that's benefit in that lift growth count see things, we

margin to probably really ammo pace more challenging us, with what be some us tailwind the gives deal will that that's and So environments. for

Susan Maklari

thank Okay, you.

Allan Merrill

Thanks, Su.

Operator

And with again, one Fineberg moment is please. Gabriel Capital, your open. Point Beach line

Gabriel Fineberg

how Hey, decision a for decision? what how active guys. could if was a wondering and of process into works know little land on bit about thinking of taken give column, are you Congrats color the criteria I Kind on, I about talked quarter. lot there the that the some land over you're inactive moving activated you previously when making it. you've that

Allan Merrill

very that the where incremental in Well, low any where differently, better over a been that to said objective rate maybe the capital, of And slightly capital incremental return return return. make invested high really the we incremental primary distress of early sure recovery was There earned time, on that return or incremental is land, on has a period the capital otherwise, the on and was was priced decision there time sellers enough rule. that. the capital doing

incremental we these seven a and has has years, return lot market evolved the improved that made of found and the on over six activating the land-held the last capital or assets sense. As

Gabriel Fineberg

of when of And your these or high them? a you'll that to the that you line develop model Got just confidence maybe are with the degree plug couple develop these are things potential you. necessarily years down there's that feel a communities you into

Allan Merrill

No, that that of has long-term from past, in from the now, development means we homes. eventual decision, we sell we I our intend a a, when intention and moved land-held active changed and it when the right status, moved develop mean its things view ability something to build to into

capital, unlock decade. but only so that on that made up a intent our we been recycle are is development. create we've we finished to so home activation a our so going assets, that under return of got decision. are building some in the not And in has get the can assets lot And earn in that, able that for we those to capital program and lots We've do those the tied incremental cases

Gabriel Fineberg

you. Got you. Thank

Allan Merrill

you. Thank

Operator

No further over time. phone the at this questions

Allan Merrill

speak everybody to will thank to in, today's want much. next concludes We dialing everybody quarter. for Thank Okay. you we call. and This very

Operator

you Thank call. conference participating. today's concludes for That

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Beazer Homes USA (BZH) 13 Nov 182018 Q4 Earnings call transcript