BZH - Earnings call transcript Q3 2021

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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Beazer Earnings Conference Call for the Quarter Ended June 30, 2021. Today's call is being recorded and a replay will be available on the company's website later today.

In addition, PowerPoint slides intended to accompany this call are available in the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.beazer.com. At this point, I'll turn the call over to David Goldberg, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Thank you, sir.

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David Goldberg

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Allan Merrill

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David Goldberg

and good Thanks, afternoon, everyone. Allan,

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Allan Merrill

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Operator

Associates. Ratner Instructions] [Operator Our & comes question Alan from first from Zelman

Alan Ratner

above basis sustainability least XXX and your strong of on doing we incredibly XXX Nice David, expectations, points point finer in a basis, the on for was the sequential margin to I'm I well. just guidance guess, glad first basis know quarter quarter year-over-year. that little came at of I this bit about job quarter. should the the a hear that more about guidance, points, we in is strength think but just recognizing a everyone's maybe how for that? this the outlook, up on hoping saw I up

David Goldberg

in lumber relates increases prices fourth Look, margins third going quarter. year -- you to level the and to earlier the the lumber of in exact timing have to affect quarter price some the in are compared the it that as

and talked us backlog Allan and have what what we into we the at and if that about look homes talked what about gives think 'XX, higher I we that's margins confidence. is

addition up basis the lumber given experienced prices those the given we've that we backlog we increase in in guidance reflects earlier to points into we So, now. 'XX, are in that XXX year the

Alan Ratner

that, So, then kind because the right year. reaccelerating in down see and of just That's so fourth to clarify next now. a on timing the of quarter lumber little sequentially bit

David Goldberg

Yeah.

Alan Ratner

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hit confidence as the you pricing gives cooperate the side cost will what eventually ceiling? the that So,

Allan Merrill

there if ever Alan, were was that question, compound a it.

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answer that your that So, does of question? part

Alan Ratner

if on would happen. very that's to agree, a pricing market to helpful think I tend that I the that as and be the whole, for Yes, would side, and healthy were

I the guess that cost answer side, segues now. So, to you which can

Allan Merrill

Yes.

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Operator

from question Our next from Alex comes Research Center. Barron Housing

Alex Barrón

you seeing I next wanted builders what see that sales? do orders to you this are sales, they're that And I quarters are playing quarter. you guess, the have out good question, seeing. guys so you that the and orders said have regarding Most couple confirm a just still saw they're holding of holding back over that's the guys how demand if back indeed

David Goldberg

Yes, in the absolutely our demand out and proactively see to production we to case control -- and the try about script, production volume try manage there. pace our Alex, quarter. That's We talked to our when match sales manage in absolutely capacity. did our the it good

layout giving we're baby a gave about talked the without how demand trends in industry think on optimistic and tell We how good sustainable, accordingly. about of there's of in Allan on and demographic and the drivers our I a positioning the pretty see with the in that seeing demand, in of we basis. I we both we boomers clearly, you, there script, go-forward see the demand millennials and very terms demographics As good kind demand think very and market specifics, out is we're real the would supply

Allan Merrill

I think in QX certainly We sales would per September will little the to be mean gave guidance, in range were orders not XXXX, enhanced year relative right. but fortunate month Alex, experience level on in QX, about be last per 'XX, community, quarter. X we the to at 'XX, a we 'XX, of the that which

Alex Barrón

other that in issues? issues, has chain And builders guess, doing, I it what them sell trying that guys and address specs everybody guys you supply to is in terms more the delivery to are those maybe -- discussing, been you like guys always are of to Are start in you've bring them? to the What you done doing things you away process? keeping later the times? different Are try

Allan Merrill

Well, the question -- on time of ton We great a complicated. it. question. is It's it's a spend

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sure I be availability you're think understand your is. and suppliers with you advance your trades that and thing, communicating that second the what that in well

part about been with sales talked we have our That's period. a very big production our capacity. aligned of we So, been this with dealing being how pace

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Alex Barrón

hey, correct? X got to take been the going issues, the adapt. all be would to my imagine I'm But is on cost, have these X bigger sure of visibility months I could guessing they has upset you you gave if them your instead I'm able customer said, not of house months expectation, because realistic guys for challenge to

Allan Merrill

Well, issues. timing and costs, they're both big

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Operator

Sidoti from Company. Romero Julio from & comes question next Our

Julio Romero

I does a that the little talked think coaster to I pull caller's margins I that I the high costs into think, year. first seep on, isolated a affect more does say little roller a lumber first upcoming been the have that called least mean, think prices the you and lumber about stay I question out or quarter on the of you of string lumber the the bit, the half bit December at know quarter in bit have to little I all? that in in So, quarter, can to wanted fourth and of might kind costs, calendar margins a

Allan Merrill

is, the I in spring that to going quarter, in be little that bit, quarter. with sold sold think knowing come have lumber the our we cost. there'll homes we them lumber good news the homes close The open, are and costs of some as going eyes were. our lumber December to a different with eyes costs close are look, in with what And September down, a we're now some selling open wide

lumber So, some quarter, the us will impact, largest sequential fourth in I alluding year-over-year gross is we was through what of expect our that but think sold to, which nicely. of be highest the margin, still in the cost deterioration flowing Dave will the why very up impact goods be largest would costs reminding

Julio Romero

in contracts? longer putting like guys put either or any price your price anything or escalators escalators you are material just And

Allan Merrill

can the to be surprises. homes to just have think not super we we where And challenges would I We say, that. There just there know of philosophically not I it. it's communication legal of that with are sell actually I have There enforcement taken challenges like easy think There done is We've issues And It's don't looked enforce. some it. let's I'm know the say no, never. it. with are it's it. are complicated. evidence it. cost. approach at with there hard

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Julio Romero

is I the And one I just, enough. preliminary I'll the it guidance looks and guess 'XX, pencil fast fiscal me last for think on on, for pass

a EPS count I double-digit get got You've below all sequential as that I correctly? XX% sales March percentage community of think the and SG&A did quarter, 'XX in fiscal growth, grow

Allan Merrill

Yes.

on all We That's that's picture got based a we've of right now. about think to that. very paint trying what what good we're kind feel I of fair.

Operator

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David Goldberg

call us on everybody everybody the today's Thank thank much. to talk to joining want quarter. today. I This call. you for concludes next very We'll

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Beazer Homes USA (BZH) 30 Jul 212021 Q3 Earnings call transcript