Darling Ingredients (DAR) 26 Feb 202019 Q4 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

James Stark	VP, IR
Randall Stuewe	Chairman & CEO
Brad Phillips	EVP & CFO
John Bullock	EVP, Specialty Ingredients & Chief Strategy Officer
Craig Irwin	Roth Capital Partners
Heather Jones	Heather Jones Research
Benjamin Kallo	Robert W. Baird & Co.
Adam Samuelson	Goldman Sachs Group
Thomas Palmer	JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Kenneth Zaslow	BMO Capital Markets

Call transcript

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Darling Ingredients Inc. conference call to discuss the company's fourth quarter and 2019 fiscal year results. [Operator Instructions].

I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jim Stark. Mr. ahead. go please Stark,

James Stark

and to this Ingredients Chairman morning Brad Financial Executive Welcome Officer. Chief on and call. the Officer; Officer; Chief the call are: Phillips, Bullock, the Anita. our earnings Strategy Darling Participants Chief John Thanks, Randall Stuewe,

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Randall Stuewe

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that, with the turn little to a Brad Brad? call I'd like over Now highlights. to financial for

Brad Phillips

a totaled $XXX.X for to diluted Randy. or million share $X.XX or income diluted fourth quarter. Thanks, income share $XX.X of Net fourth for million Okay. quarter XXXX the net of per per the $X.XX compared XXXX

million retroactive fourth of per diluted XXXX XXXX net the $XXX was Excluding share. quarter, blenders tax credit the or the income $X.XX portion from

XXXX. the or the the per XXXX net year BTC, income to year totaled The fiscal fiscal per $XXX for of million diluted retroactive XXXX, share. fiscal $XXX.X $X.XX portion BTC quarter Again, fourth income BTC XXXX and net per the million a diluted XXXX XXXX for fiscal Net excluding from share the included million for million and or or of was compared $XXX.X share retroactive year $XX.X year $X.XX XXXX. diluted million income results $XXX.X $X.XX for for

of gallons significantly DGD's XXXX, lower in million years the our we X its DGD at notes. in as gallons. Interest of outstanding running X XXX rates XXXX X million was EBITDA, $X down the rather stated for recorded. the earned had nearly Slide when last on applying increased production depicts expense capacity BTC interest investor than presentation

Now looking taxes. at

As mentioned, for $XX.X through reenacted for for XXXX. retroactively and biofuel respectively. previously and effective incentive is tax the XXXX $XX.X tax the years cash Tax extended the XXXX federal Accordingly, rate million of XX%. XXXX company's million, of and calendars expense lower calendar XXXX, XXXX and than was tax rate were XX.X% payments statutory

we are For CapEx we was the completed during growing several made as normal $XXX.X the XXXX to be of The effective be CapEx rate range taxes compliance million. million expenditures fiscal complete of we includes for year projects to and CapEx million in higher expansion XXXX, units segment XXXX. construction to and Capital CapEx. were cash tax of of XXXX, of collagen our $XXX XX% X $XX the of $XXX in the of Food million approximately $XXX as approximately maintenance in we in million projecting middle XXXX. range anticipate part and the

share program, total spend common the shares Our revolving strong million. XXX,XXX another our repurchased repurchased with unrestricted shares fiscal of cash approximately $XX total shares of 'XX credit fourth off quarter to the of XXXX. Also Loan remains our of $XX.X under of million term the as bringing at did liquidity of we quarter, pay fourth in the A repurchase the in part our We $XXX company balance million facility. remaining and available in X,XXX,XXX

in With million distribution with and debt bank Green our by debt tax to 'XX. reduce diesel receive We significant exceeding leverage We that million inflows. decline $XX July sold Diamond XXXX in should intend approximately our credits under the our Diesel project the currently will below and policy, X reduction. reenacted, growing we to cash of ratio BTC estimated following we $XXX for this from currently X XXXX, early our distribution

it to that, With Randy. you, I'll turn over back

Randall Stuewe

continues media to or coronavirus the headlines Brad. dominate world. the Thanks, as across COVID-XX it calls

facilities China we Darling, several been and X have impacted. For in have

We the as are the disease chemicals be hampered production ramp-up our be re-open ability delivered were a to raw bottleneck to to but may plants in materials the China. transportation our of restrictions get continues and by necessary related to starting that impacted,

have As of our earnings. confident our a will impact we remain China not operations material XXXX today, on that

performer can approximately it continue We XXX going be was XXXX, will million that to capacity. a earner would gallon certainly segment star production earn forward. $X.XX expect be with in of DGD share a per in EBITDA EBITDA Fuel Our and believe we strong XXXX, Darling's $XXX the gallon that million.

worked diesel announced feel years to of out we have business. DGD in on in other diesel, the supply projected performance experience others, advantage have is investments a management possible distribution We have making chain, who renewable in and first-mover renewable of strongly that We production going X the this and compared kinks entrants nearly space. as DGD this over new has confidence

carbon new the scoring margin We but choose or at to comers, our intuitive advantage vegetable attract understand ability do low us oil pure low DGD to feedstocks feedstocks. intensity who gives over producers that use CI may environment use

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this XXXX This should segment Food $XXX a come being of years distribution and is last billion $XXX the we fruit. range as made EBITDA We to both show in in DGD have combined is and $XXX EBITDA start Darling from million, straightforward debt $X.X these as a from in growth is the with DGD to expected bear continue million over to projecting to and couple reduced delever core pro math the XXXX. with in we over million The should will are result approximately the of currently and around segment be forma our Feed range. in investments growth capital July meaningful to debt-free, the of

achieve continue drive long-term better believe we can that into have is key We even we'll refine results. operational shareholder year, how and delivering to to results momentum value. coming the focus we Our improved through to execution

sustainability into continue our we around waste strongly streams about usable feel as the globe. products to commitment repurposing We

more our ESG progresses. around You as efforts from will XXXX about hear us

wraps up that our that, here. With comments

open and ahead go Let's up to it Q&A.

Operator

Instructions]. [Operator

comes Craig first The Partners. from Roth question Capital Irwin with

Craig Irwin

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John Bullock

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favorable of summertime as a running be time in next months, period quite coming we the they we're several as conditions into maybe the where once up So might get over specification. weren't

nothing about Diesel. at there's Diamond performance operational So Green one-time

have and doing of just run would operators we would facility rate. that job, at facility. excellent They're anticipate at We that type excellent, continue phenomenal to that a

do to those time from we Now, to take have at facilities. time, a turnaround

we because sophisticated all Diamond are markets we moved other almost the the move Diesel, operators, feedstock in a XXX% in supply excellent and the operate able at that, various to to part uptime, to going However, we to. because we have and time, the have chain the product out for ability Green very part than to

which expectation Diesel, facility expect have we fun Diamond what out of that It's think slow So And together, because you supply what now Green runs have inefficient to all I we from good to well come see that you going down don't run is really, really you operational is to chain. see that facility an have have that we performance. kind it's well. when that a the our

margins far As go, as margin excellent. the environment is

now. continue the several time as next Diamond way to excellent good Green see all be for months. forward around It's right We Diesel move the it we for

Craig Irwin

Great. are year the schedule, should turnarounds, And about? since the half on first turnarounds of the you maybe there did mention any we in know that

John Bullock

There Diesel. we know really is -- -- we're Green at there going exactly Diamond have a never to no when turnaround

catalyst bit. little the starts whenever to Just on a fade us

I turnaround I quite when and the to have So year. to should in that going that we think turnaround occur. know don't million have able will this make gallons we're announced for that XXX Exactly We plan. because that's a be, a turnaround we've never sure sure when be

Randall Stuewe

it's think not will I the safe to first of it be But the half year. say in

John Bullock

be. Shouldn't

Craig Irwin

good. Good,

clients. with conversation SG&A. this question second and my So lot is back of about about forth last night morning been quite and this a There's

year-on-year, So $XX the absolute increase million.

segments. it broke your out you of for each Now

like mass very will the been that catch-up company, of ascribing focused appropriate of incentive a compensation comp on performance value what last clear break I more increases of maybe the wheat that spunge been in some squeezing months. the few market, a that strong when instated, significantly really in by for Diamond we is season that given you on around over all quite be the And sort is out of all and the was increase there onetime Green price How us material finally for the accrual a for have impacted stock that incentive for the the stock have You was years. accounting very comp, that. the And guess, saw? kind out suspect But had few nature? incentive that much the of drop of you've I over impact we Can this part of SG&A? last the are

that's about could you So sustained. if obviously something it's talk maybe

Brad Phillips

is this Brad. Craig, Yes.

approximately it, is stock good half So and increase, call that of that, that that, stock award expense expense for in a of half of comp comp by expense stock certainly $XX price incentive million stock the ballpark and portion of the let's and award of a portion a was driven 'XX. incentive

So be in there will 'XX. not that recurring

some. a However, good kind stock comp be a to I'll incentive a get a here $XX range was up But for year of will half stock of second next 'XX, in this comp and in the that million, combined.

other that never SG&A, 'XX, We were always SG&A, just there laundry also some things list interruptions was are year-over-year, and had -- an they credits a you in we of where as and against have those equal -- business that's land.

as So a there legal was a decent-sized piece of as the well difference couple settlements. of

you of SG&A might with -- there in get more you, -- 'XX behind it, hit over through Those those as, our countries those So come governments Rendac the disposal Benelux make and the for the tough. than was hole well those businesses waste that SG&A, as in in 'XX. will call let's

those contracts. moves that unfavorable, timing was of on that down So up and based

per $X.XX in So we're for $X.XX to at quarter. of 'XX, range, in of range a looking kind a SG&A

Craig Irwin

than what lower That's I modeled.

that. So I like

Operator

comes with Research. Heather from Jones question Jones Heather Next

Heather Jones

Feed So quick business. question on a the

bone meat starting that? meal seen wondering sense fairly if was and pricing, move what's rapidly. give a of honestly we've to us could driving And recently, you So

Randall Stuewe

Yes.

Kevin, this think, Randy. I is

comment And up and about in me varies the kind commodity fat world. the Let from in QX moving it in to Europe. start rapidly. saw continent already QX of prices global right We kind here, now. then continent I'll of

fat today, in from we stable pricing strong call blocks and protein prices would the of out today. we're so And in Europe Europe

prices to than fat now, moving Canada a bottom-up hit up and little still prices to up there more go a protein. and be seem You prices have protein were slightly fat

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back we've of which under, we were is $XXX But where seen of $XX is. up. range still now of that where underneath ton move back now so that you're We're And soybean kind in still historically a side low meal.

So we would say, prices for fat XXXX, move to we up. will continue think

cooking of type COVID-XX of have or completely the and coronavirus and of fallouts supplier European the that those used into a to was whether exports renewable slowed. market. biodiesel of One China, it's or And oil diesel is

UCO start very the up because markets of seen production U.S., Protein, supply very, in move around world it's Europe rapidly there. we've the animal the remains in So and animals, feeding strong. rather tightening production and of to still

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Heather Jones

weak remembering that meal the on bone your that the of in piece specifically, decent-sized a exposed, right exposed is on side But side. history. still have I and relative business pricing so But am America you meal pretty know I North to it's in

So for any be pricing positive you? should move in good that

Randall Stuewe

you which ruminant seeing are follow more no and there's products. to and all requiring what to the specific PC a you is, non-mixed type diets, to trying poultry was haul there. as And refer The more yes you're -- industry, I a see, Yes. continue as

market yes, falling the dead had the how the that stock the us. rest the seen that's margin of meat market, It and But all good stock or up, bone business Midwest. move with the meal the significant mean, so fourth yes. rise it weak adjustments in proteins move manage yes, We've for I We've a really if up. made boats quarter And and answer business is, it. in here. will we And

Heather Jones

moving fats. then And Okay. on to

restaurant UCO they pointed just far of load eating something I you tight. of out like out get February, all where their there one like read that's out, Just so as China, the as might for supply is given

I have and all, think When the UCO you are as hitting U.S. and you what we guys that as that ceiling price from biodiesel fat about America? So ceiling North been a be there yellow mean, highs we is or relative see a poultry the strong about feed to all, fats price to for grease the should there. UCO relative and conventional prices or in whatever? thinking far demand on but more thinking we'll

John Bullock

Bullock. We be that's an UCO biodiesel. going our But to and balance while John to here, in feedstock Yes. know the next would renewable Heather, would that the number, we're supply for you we anticipate a think couple certainly, see you we quarters. too. of give going great this necessarily that It's to of pricing strong don't tightens I going this is UCO on up have position a desired anticipate. biofuel And throughout is year, UCO pricing as a the will community. for impact is clearly by diesel

Operator

Baird. comes with question Next Kallo Ben from

Benjamin Kallo

Arthur with at just there new whether the is to Port the side to look the And it's -- are or a go that logistics a about demand no-go you facility. side, if supply the kind it decision and I the ask facility? or feed market-based from wanted of

Randall Stuewe

Randy. this is Ben, Yes.

DGD logistics process. estimate. where work, it same DGD it decision make once we're there. we as it's II process think to And a and the sure million-plus go done do and -- in early lay is kind $XX we're following engineering Phase we fits of dollars get then -- a we made. in engineering X, fits of then gated to the we III the engineering an We're see Phase X out I and on the we've facility, is then

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confident you'll product. So had the of I if see we're you continue, the global handicap it, very to us for demand think,

very engineering the really As to then a and continue well about, And today, into DGD just of we're the we developing and and we've now. X. sister talked a bree DGD XXXX from DGD X global plant committed part also are market see consideration but transportation X fuels of

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Benjamin Kallo

color. could JV, that debt Great. kind down if as you just maybe from allocation, on just flow should how spitting Or out a first? cash of outline that? then is Thanks capital pay about about think start for And that you we

Randall Stuewe

set is expansion. whatever cash. for we down needed coming significant retain generating quarter there. the got there dividend policy published million-plus we've mean, free capital -- for We it's that the I $XX says out There's Yes. the a

the As tax Brad credit in. in It million I will be guess. know, we of alluded, probably first given million And received the that we the at coming Brad, our at dividend would of July. be have, $XXX blenders of end But we filed. needed. than be of and been have $XXX do quarter, down April, that's or then, end the don't it the net policy, I would of It's whatever would quarter sometime there

capital X I left down are there $XXX bit. think our little on a $XXX million, DGD expenditures million, plus minus or

that that's the going port weather-driven. and always million Concretes -- And the kind year, here a on we you go were the that not have so lot this concrete becomes the quick. to outflows million It's pull the we'll up. are to we depend $XXX another July, giving run this And cash to we're of $XXX here. timing of cash million then And and saying And footings won't a dividend pretty up, start year, will math. just starts a Brad dividend go we million, pulls kind and and the right when going By July. in that's $XXX year. construction can next forward $XXX the reason out of $X.XX now, door gallon. deal that's done and of you as

Operator

Samuelson with Adam comes question from Sachs. Goldman Next

Adam Samuelson

Are peak at LCFS there. outlook value in hoping of Maybe first, Or of maybe diesel? little to a capture gallon embedded incremental value about bit of the in So created Randy, the margin relative that's the a is thinking opportunity, Diamond to we of kind just Or 'XX go-forward the more renewable of -- I a just on John, LCS value Green. dig basis the was on in kind have by capture reached that still we year-on-year whether there versus kind terms $X.XX to it's 'XX? opportunity?

John Bullock

is This John. Yes.

about the which percentage we So I we the it's it. LCFS, lot of greater with the confidental and is totally And that see consider information results, to and our know from we as and a some you retain, seen customers. greater won't what of can a that. think been where that of us Obviously, with LCFS more at be our I tell percentage comment we're that reticent of don't we've point

So the because know going mountain for increase just answer a year But we peak probably the don't Green is in excellent, Diamond to past product more we markets. demand excellent, the is, excellent this I reached that or point the be LCFS see at on the not years. little bit time. in X.X will the over Diesel's of rapid of terms pricing seen that the of we've It's out

Adam Samuelson

dimensionalize of your in That's is Diamond facility, about in kind mean particularly margin to as advantage think as help you this others, logistics see margin more the challenge of advantage durable helpful. face advantages investments kind tax of efficiencies then versus capacity? new facilities, others other way credit. which the vegetable would gallon Green the the you us think what And process about Any a helps oil Okay. about the And that's and frame using the plant? also I blenders durable on $X, of think $X.XX advance, versus expectation feedstock year, be those your you just versus who could

John Bullock

don't I Yes, on put number to that. this again. that a I is know John, want necessarily

I think that do. be would hard to

thousands to to when out of volume to However, markets. around, sheer that, railcars, the all complexity product involved especially out ships to various plants the lines it in of to renewable and think receive sheer be is this competitive be outbound amazing on size of of me, remotes the trying thousands rail product the complexity various it lines with these the and of moving of the inbound managing hundreds both rail the several move your have that trucks, and to to different you the that scale and about move product, diesel various having LCFS being of

of complex this talks business facility of most many seems business the realize. aspect humorous most of renewable The find announcements, nobody we piece and always diesel the of important renewable, ways, see nobody The in lots supply complexity about. part is to chain publicly, relatively And facility. at least this We is a that of it here.

building have doing chain is Diamond And so announcement a if built on be most yesterday. renewable defining or it's really diesel that Diamond this. think environment. Green not high. on And renewable spent margin when we just supply we the certainly chain building would from we investment, not advantage literally competitive facilities Diesel IMTT, absolutely We world made in we thousands competitive are coming outbound running, Diesel both run competitive realize, inbound analysis, everyone is Green for of supply along any and we're We this critical. would think the important We're facility the because we to in hours opportunity And be to, diesel every the Diesel to have with the not that not a in did advantage. margins to world Diamond just Green

designing to facility If a the designing long you're compete not that upfront, in run. you're in not

Adam Samuelson

squeeze one that bucket million That's growth the on business. expectation $XXX that remarks, versus I some a then XXXX. for more million EBITDA to prepared super base to feed, in the talked in food, Any fuel? just think, way $XXX the to could I helpful Randy, you in color. between And if just base business, our

Randall Stuewe

largest the going But answer segment. were not think nice be million, No. pretty fourth see should $XX repeated. million you improvement. knew we to $XX will I the that's feed -- should that. obviously, is quarter The We do a

The running that -- be year flew food plant of all his Peptan at As Amparo, segment, clearly, with year us. there think a year. had in we the we'll this help going Brad one-timers a our pretty our okay last to mentioned performance China the nice in we is -- I comments, full that through in said,

Comments up are this. our commented, I a concurrently [indiscerinible] bringing Angouleme, there online running June, the July. business. and China, Peptan have our but day, and to order, starting that of all challenging all plants May, we in over in at it's that's production of the And with the X up April, hesitation [indiscerinible] end have we in little in then Ghent are in and June, today May A very domestic market coming plant,

it the but much hydrolyzed some we will about will to as and demand, half growth the be nutrition around significant renewable back continue we markets. and show see segment, So we John growth, the talks loaded nice sports, nice business Food as said, and world collagen go as very very diesel in health forward,

to going Food said, kind credit. tax Fuel difference the of versus annuity The prospective out an last we -- or it's always clearly, there. be So the will Feed year segments year as or this

were in But throwing you more you. just few asking, here as comments color and for a I'm

not feedstocks, right today the in structure, not the you even was post about, renewable are and and margin react, did want fairly -- structure BTC the and spread the black that business classic is about crazy. And as business the John classic biodiesel the with plants market for say dollar talking competitive While somewhere the diesel to $X.XX gallon operate now, went between The X earnings and up talked HOBO that again. good. we I the RIN kind moved of demand margin biodiesel we

That business. our bit good very it a Canadian should not up. able to really overall, on will But that's weigh a So be make operation. we little

we we the making sides those plants long come $XXX, pricing doable story of we type any online. short, get $XXX authority. is up think Peptan and So that low plus sure think

even positioned think XXXX. we're in go I to higher

Operator

The next Tom with Palmer JPMorgan. from comes question

Thomas Palmer

Diesel. to touch Diamond wanted today the on I at economics Green

You just biodiesel operations. traditional of the touched in some on weakness

in diesel pressure under before come credit seen RINs blenders of the over bit roll wake of a kind have tax approval. We

business. number, You came Diesel the out gallon at for with per strong historically, a $X.XX Green right, Diamond pretty

about of think we the year. start As the

the economics first that So just seen any credit blenders of quarter, Or see subsequent approval, a following quarters? reasonable number? in we've of unit progressing? a some really, given ramp be dislocation for initial we kind color should on So tax today's looking you versus the more just with is it that what how

Randall Stuewe

All here. right. Tom, question. Hope this pay attention Randy. you is Good

business. I think than margin at a will lay the end the in better the the be there continued quarter-after-quarter, And structure actually gallon of we've $X.XX the in margins QX. to day, out

we is capture the of world, And continue around and running more to, the export. premiums alluded the to more both strong. business John domestically As and LCFS

So we're year. is through comfortable staying where the $X.XX

we feedstocks, the of year. be back half So will think, in higher the

then QX. earnings with if we end business we're have in So little the day, probably up of on core QX, picks up, year. more fat the the at there our back the going And half of the right prices QX stronger QX, a in

Thomas Palmer

quickly there. necessity cost distribution wanted of that the make overall you the this for product? think Thanks costs? agreement a we move announced can DGD then ask when just about And terms to in the color Or Great. to Is logistics structure yesterday. lowering this on sure you at incremental is

Randall Stuewe

X, confident, million, I'll up I you to million, up comment one, number also a gallons grab can DGD gallon. a X.X give facility comment. then when eventually, round X I'm Yes. I'll many let DGD make John that and XXX pounds probably mean, lets XXX with on-site a we and

of You're talking billion pounds X fat.

U.S., us we there of as bring comment But double and location want more? fat site, able there of you have over and both done, site, water, then trying ship going miles North do time, current XXX,XXX supply we'll across to I talking think to to to. railcars over And be at to You're the and opportunity barge, tankage by logistics. American X John improve in truck, and the move we tanks allow to I'll could the able be and away. be as by by same need our it the use, put a a little to some into John, outbound offload, XX% one by our both renewable but load all trucks, IMTT and per at diesel ship to we're can, rail, the we to that best and river, barrels taking announcement, the about we're alluded, meaning

John Bullock

that, the because fat, facility, specifically Diamond It to on along, IMTT interesting have but good capability, both guys over were alternative we to was not raw our material, we We the going We're channel load evolved something have able discussions. IMTT raw spectacular. originally is too, It to absolutely came had mind, be when to on long we to out. in going designed pipeline able my where going Diesel, and be in. had really renewable had our diesel designed into [indiscerinible] also Yes. IMTT do IMTT at to The facility. logistics we an on-site did things to

gallons about well in the IMTT of materials as Valero product. bring as of raw into by diesel, talking markets plus to that If start the different fats of we vessel. us can barge, with of we renewable marketplace. by locations international million We some the load logistics supply X have start XXX finished million, you the XXX When another gallons docks naphtha, now million off XX can

have and We the spectacular KCS Diamond X been Green supplying Diamond capability today, in already at Diesel partners Diesel Green they've us with X.

diesel We load renewable of. today out have CN we capability that

out CN able now additional We at load at also board. will the capability the loading unloading standpoint, site Valero be barrels a IMTT. supply renewable From IMTT of of out diesel on XXX,XXX both capacity bringing incorporate to and with and -- logistics we're CN that and

cheap for It have us us to unloaded get to whatever fast. it's a to buying means that are doing We're now able terminal, best that business anybody to the to always able and that's we a if that when sure market ship available, out is, us, means be it's we and ability effectively functioning ship you that's to to go railcar, product the that fast. going massively market to. to It the also it with supports turning be able be for our the make fact

it going boat with to be into in a bring and it you quickly. we're to If us, deal able get

for customers, we're So easy to because they And efficiency, the with North America, partners your supply deal product facility a and capability the when just finished making important chain from at very taking of in supply demand terms us, be that that product with demand to in that's be a you. chain sending they it and type whether work suppliers you've that extremely efficiently intend of you're flexibility. us. to can of respect gives our all or you we what that element supply the or all And that's or got they're guys, raw IMTT material phenomenal

Operator

question with Montreal. The of from Zaslow Ken Bank next comes

Kenneth Zaslow

that Just is is the here. that? CapEx projects lot it's the food of associated core my much how EBITDA quick been covered with from One, a growth is follow-ups, couple a first of That's EBIT, question. of

John Bullock

in food growth or The 'XX -- or EBITDA 'XX for 'XX?

Randall Stuewe

-- me it I mean, Food business of growth plants -- XXX% is in Amparo the in the new year-over-year. online I Ken, would growth the collagen the the came of segment I'll let because answer that

Kenneth Zaslow

Is fair? not you're expecting it saw in any business, underlying improvement the you So projects. that CapEx in

John Bullock

of majority that. Well

Randall Stuewe

which Food business, small. yes. our really made casings mean, segment I Yes. is is of The up

started Our or fat buying and had edible Europe we bit of of frozen -- because there Europe, little edible China fat, of we've fat in fat price fats business, but erosion a raw out which move up raw so the nicely. seen

next related then margin by the So offset around that the decline offset the gelatin to the two XXX% growth we been the years that our world. erosion there and is model volume has collagen of business see the really, over rebalancing

Kenneth Zaslow

the much lower as that of replication fourth how right? compensation, just of because of significant Okay. numbers. improvement is the And the not feed right? portion that Is of the well? And that quarter Is a

Randall Stuewe

I your understand Not again. sure question

Kenneth Zaslow

of of quarter in increase? the SG&A that fell obviously Right. feed expectations, Because short the The right?

Randall Stuewe

Yes.

Kenneth Zaslow

year-over-year, that just when about assuming Is So other I'm part about half improvement recovering half that then it? probably pricing. implemented -- plus looking it, that at the probably is an in you're XXXX, is to way for of a of think

Randall Stuewe

yes, at have and assets on market now. now our it three we a number also, flow Europe, stronger comp have that and fat will two, through in Blend Great LA, going then true-up won't significant of through Wahoo legal that year I ways: in that's and year-over-year whole right incentive of to the QX; a the went got settlements one, you've look programs you flow-through segment;

So we we under have construction. plants should some always have --

contribute You help that extra expenses additional through have bids little year. growth happening that to in should Canada seem a today to this flow those the

Kenneth Zaslow

the exclude issue. But about EBITDA a when minor that of the core and is the the it on terms thinking improvement fuel in BTC? include you're then And when ingredients, business, Okay. or you're does --

Randall Stuewe

that's That's that. in numbers Rendac That front businesses, excludes Fuel million straightforward. something the DGD. by that, of very, to $XX businesses don't and We because million, that always would very are that me. been, anchored has segment Brad, just our like say tariff Ecoson and I have what, $XX

Kenneth Zaslow

repayment. question, just a go you're about Previously, DDG you of give will Diesel the Is from Diamond cash were that just you're and And my acquisitions. thinking said shareholders? debt going the because to it? been tabled But to that looking deleverage strength about think back of is is, receive that that last and the strategic to the to is you just the to Green how

Randall Stuewe

I involved long-term and obviously, That's we're on the years, XX I how first structure, business. today, discussions been we're -- time going my in Ken. the at both attached Brad looking in looking for to word to where I've with investment-grade and at I capital are, the put mean, mean near-term we're it the now them.

A we're gone where to And the the So That's basically we're going going we has term debt now. figure go term go last and senior ahead It there. will out B. prepayable have. against then our just from we'll

Operator

Heather from Heather follow-up The Jones next Jones with question is a Research.

Heather Jones

the on bigger some low-carbon the and but a And the just to of is in and back the But wanted I about So a dollar go Europe, have the thinking to really all piece the supply in being added, well getting Northeast. mandates mandates bigger credit, LCFS the program difficulties you chain. highlighted capacity West I was then and of that. Coast talks of

actually the So a it and envision the scenario get to the I where that you LCFS. could difficulty Is receive supply a was wondering, than XXX% could of talk? you point online steepening mandates given where do more that of crazy bringing

John Bullock

or of is able low program, whether -- Federal in is all strong, remains that out the programs. various the it State, such command Midwest in if for It which we'll there's right? we'll California we is extremely worry, are the Northeast, develop. carbon one to pricing taking premiums. is Washington market that the about Canadian on so a markets New in, just some concept, how LCFS seems all in interested are talk this Heather, the would And some about the like the say extent mean demand developing Colorado really you based State, Yes. markets to situation even things markets, ask these all highlighted those where we're there. the And programs, don't of hold John. talk be see or is York I premiums, I

Heather Jones

the any pricing my shift seen into spot going have portfolio follow-up as you in as And versus far your contracts? term on is, XXXX DGD what's Okay. final

John Bullock

on Heather, very term is sales. on Yes. is formulas. this a John. Most product We do sold with basis our of spot little

Operator

Stuewe This concludes for to the turn any our question-and-answer Randy conference back now would session. remarks. I over to like closing

Randall Stuewe

road Thank you. out get we'll We we as appreciate everyone's investment you on to get to community, to look story time the the and again. and everybody to forward today then. tell seeing Thanks, see our exciting

Operator

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