BLL - Earnings call transcript Q1 2018

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Ball Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference Call.

During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will have a question-and-answer session.

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, Thursday, May 3, 2018. And now, it's my pleasure to turn the conference over to John Hayes, CEO of Ball Corporation. ahead. go Please

John A. Hayes

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Daniel W. Fisher

John. Thanks,

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Scott C. Morrison

were versus Dan. XXXX Thanks, earnings improvement. XXXX, first $X.XX $X.XX Comparable in quarter a XX%

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John A. Hayes

Great. Thanks, Scott.

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Operator

first and is gentlemen, question-and-answer Scott much. will from Thank question with go you have Ladies our Barclays. now Please session. Gaffner the very we And ahead.

Scott L. Gaffner

Scott Good Good morning, and Dan. Thanks. John. morning,

Scott C. Morrison

Good morning.

Daniel W. Fisher

morning Good

John A. Hayes

Hey.

Scott L. Gaffner

don't you XX into Hey, months' have the million and synergies months but John, that at I numbers outlined $XXX the acquisition on point, this know associated the around in you long-term with EVA plan I want think acquisition XX the had incentive update an correct. the that, you are goal timeframe to I you if

John A. Hayes

Yeah.

Scott L. Gaffner

EVA Could to generation? us sort you of through you maybe period about halfway are where talk performance that around

John A. Hayes

Yeah.

see on But track up basis. I report in ended it XXXX shape. strong. was EVAs in where good don't year-end the we're think and it we and quarterly We quite externally a you can

not In we the about as billion. get an in at get we by a the remarks, basis, said billion to as $X.XX And said a because $X.XX going we're said were terms focus of talk not on what's And mid-XXXX corporation. I going my we of synergies, synergies at on as and the discussion billion we started into $X EBITDA to XXXX. a just prepared end synergy. to we from at and about LTM want the said to get go, synergy we're accounting don't really specifically We what's

that for that on just getting we're that of there. think right speaks track itself I

Scott L. Gaffner

metals. metals rising thanks bit in But for Okay. think And capital, obligations, but North quick Dan, a cash America the through the we impact it passing way follow-up free since you're about based she's like that little I in on on and contractual specifically should environment the a no maybe on that's Russia working focused comments and But one how that so sounds mean, to Europe. the on misunderstood customers flow? on market. and obviously,

John A. Hayes

John. is this Scott, Yes,

the pass-through business everyone, what – you're a is because first issue model. just our nature about me home call on we pass-through talking Let for the reiterate

here on so about is our floating either people the business borne but the In it, asked without the we a over a risk in metals hedged of aluminum the never contracted U.S. volume not to the or matched linked truly controlled we us. price other the pass-through. meaning changes in metal world, is taking the XX% With straight for many customer us customer a all control sales pass-through questions the a where with but aluminum the actually risk We're the the a aluminum, have price. price are contract by of remainder tariffs of by these the sign in book, at is having being metal, parts

Daniel W. Fisher

impact, And on that any shouldn't capital much things doing increases payable the there receivable working be the on offset side. the will and because front, inventory Scott, we're of the side on

Scott L. Gaffner

that, one last on And Dan. Okay. one for just

seeing to you prices, alternatives? Thanks. that signs from so think driver, around I rise can customers lot thoughts a But in I metal customers value appreciated. cans wouldn't mean, they're so. any around from from Given any the other your away using that there's of switching their the potentially are any would been be as your just

Daniel W. Fisher

valuable on I that economic No, to we've any right. they're that level the mean, result prices. material prices away. I and substrate the a it's of raw you piece side at historically, we such or see change read think aluminum a move especially of this prices equation, seen And didn't not going as beer

So, we're not that. seeing

John A. Hayes

one last remember was flat. thing, in the United States Scott, the in roughly first Yeah. quarter, the industry

and was it up think of three X.X%. known, soft soft. that. actually something But a well or tenths like that drink I was megabeer Beer been has is point down

will demand destruction. I go And seen just up think so, have that reinforces but further we and prices that down, no

Operator

Tyler go Langton, our next Please ahead. question And from JPMorgan. is

Tyler J. Langton

Yeah. Good Thank you. morning.

better was stronger first growth, sort than of so any sort be sort your going quarter And just a this of Brazil Just well of than you or you maybe, is would – quarter. mean were there expected? quarter helpful. it be outlook Just to bit Brazil. do details South looking X% kind the I obviously, with X% think did more I think in consumption of in America, I little is for to last guess previous

Daniel W. Fisher

Sure. And where was ahead I would bit think the quarter, benefited half season. can't roughly Brazil be, But into of certainly X% was say, from I year. from certainly it the I of little standpoint really market a We predict first back in that. the the thought peak growth would we that a heading year.

think certainly in it the into to to to and and peak half XXXX think be presidential out won't but relative season, heading the play is Cup World the back XXXX, I a here we'll – relative lot I elections going we're and but also that, of South we watching and parts are well. of nice thought. be even to really where then, trending thought other of And America teams our start performed really the off where a ahead also customers of ahead

I that has the mix. substrate So, comments, better customers our than little even versus in this can of economic the I And think lot I as in do is then think, also, landscape said to opening thought point. a a with my at Brazil,

Tyler J. Langton

with That's so helpful. just with Europe. just just then, And growth sticking –

yeah, what's can the like you of I don't up is mentioned if Cup those strength mean driving you Iberian you talk sustainable think volumes just how you a within or I the on I about can sort Russia little mean kind were think know if Peninsula, bit they that X% tell, from are? just of is – World I – in gains and Russia, and

Daniel W. Fisher

Yeah.

footprint I is Europe. in from all, so two think – areas, those those well, strength smaller the our aspects in of first regional benefited really we of strong

Russia World a from a strength And sizes in away particular from absolutely conscious also from we're customers world. the the of in area pre-build, our certainly can that but in winning is really from standpoint part movement there's of plastic and the of particular. substrate world, benefiting it new of Some Cup that

Tyler J. Langton

so Great. much. right. All Thanks

Operator

Capital And Please ahead. BMO is our Markets. question next go Wilde, Mark from

Mark William Wilde

morning. Good

John A. Hayes

morning. Good

Daniel W. Fisher

Good morning.

Mark William Wilde

quarter just both a wondered how the help sense us were. I freight startup large Scott, of increased could you in first giving costs the and the us costs by if

Scott C. Morrison

Yeah.

the there think much last it's last volume. from you are at through from But we some that headwinds said, as the improve (XX:XX) a rest it's I the Dan to costs. and the mean, move performance throughout year not – year. we'd to startup said of charge things of if those But the I expect going – really we quarter, overcome we have difference year, look year. into at from those there's tied the as

Mark William Wilde

Is just kind startup through as going you're possible we to those Spain? costs to year, Goodrich, help us to for the cadence going of you have have you're it move

Scott C. Morrison

should – will be should started costs down, we're we already reduce so May. making of operational the Goodyear in that the – startup more cans quarter the that Well, second first quarter. the quarter, as should in in they than there, more Europe, come get And hit come here first in of

Mark William Wilde

that the a than maybe you Dan, And a project, kind you little it cans is accelerated then, Argentinean sounds color market rapidly Can around put Okay. more wondered, shifting I expected. to like of that? little

Daniel W. Fisher

exactly what's That's Sure. happening.

investments players America by and conscious has of a that I an nice the – tailwinds in market. more can's push And with South terms the returnable in to it's incremental think to it's And effort aggressively to from key just player cans that just there penetration was substrate pace make down created build to incumbent the one we're continuing market in against glass keep some of a marketplace. continuing mix. overall

continues to we'll can and we'll win. as the – do to So, that continue

Mark William Wilde

right And country Argentina rate in what would penetration a be now? that like

Daniel W. Fisher

– of north the Right somewhere between the kind in now, XX%. of it's in

Mark William Wilde

Okay.

Daniel W. Fisher

of two that digits high-single a versus kind and And years trends half ago.

Mark William Wilde

it helpful. turn I'll That's over. Okay.

Operator

ahead. Anthony Please The question next Citigroup. from Pettinari, is go

Anthony Pettinari

Good morning.

John A. Hayes

morning. Good

Anthony Pettinari

terms American appreciable volumes drag And to on an full of the in think a that's for if the XQ? much is in maybe volumes on the way is quantify were XQ about In year? if how possible And to any down even or North there's in approach, drag much value the that was it to over say of in Mexico? how up then, maybe volumes volume possible segment, and it U.S.

John A. Hayes

Yeah.

you I direction the in front me exact some of here. Let give but let numbers me don't have – me,

you North what here the that's think States. a America. about we kind did the baseline on almost here side in the alcoholic was where And to beer down segment, beer, United given in from overweight that an fair to industry, of want As that, X% we

drinks the as some In not to brands, specialty in existing that, forward soft prepared my move choose the we quite specialty because of some of I XX-ounce the on of as addition growth to supplying growth was nice, side did remarks, with that specialty rebranding just launch said containers. side, on as standard but purposely well

that, a down And we X%. just then, to were then, in Mexican than America, so the that to bit were little we imports in the get bit. X%. that down a down North But little overall So, offset more

Anthony Pettinari

Okay.

maybe then, Okay, is upcoming XX that's helpful. your renewals, possible in your Dan, talked it of contract is you for about sales of or And next for the to Or volumes North Europe, up is America up and than that's percentage percentage renewals? what is contracts business renewal months? a the say that on or us year renewal, I lower any higher of you of are kind Can guess, the, color tenor the there legacy give significantly Rexam it off? normal maybe roll for or contract

Daniel W. Fisher

that. to and our portfolio no really over on turning say, aggregate in XX%, we're XX% contracts variations would there's to I significant average,

Anthony Pettinari

turn That's Okay. I'll over. helpful. it

Daniel W. Fisher

Thank you.

Operator

the question Please Sachs. next Maguire, Goldman And go ahead. is from Brian

Brian Maguire

hey. morning, Good Oh, guys.

John A. Hayes

Hey.

Brian Maguire

to beverage from But appreciate I stages it food and real tell? it's at on competitiveness the those the we European you on just investigation, the there point business view can this as early market comments comments the you based John, know here. can what that about assume should impact no limited

John A. Hayes

Absolutely.

Brian Maguire

disruptions to glad there that of sounds Okay. are disruptions the continue to supply all aluminum? any that Is confident that's changes you'll just then, – of be that local road it the chain. of like concerns as guess outcome down that are some supply the hear And – have Thanks it of that I no process clarification. to any to regardless Russia, sanctions the some driving this, RussOil guys you or to no pretty timing able the or to for might relates and you

Daniel W. Fisher

Based very won't what to the impacts on have feel in disruptions chain. supply supply know that we confident any chain or today, we Yeah. we

Brian Maguire

or exposure could that then, there? we of you just And be the translational aware lot either about have transactional ruble remind should me Do of? a Okay. currency you

Scott C. Morrison

hedge And a of Yeah, most it's some we We you dollar-based in it's that. have then, but invoiced can really ruble business. but – do of that. rubles, it's hedge exposure, some

of not an that big there's So, impact. really

Brian Maguire

Okay. Great.

one impact weather last can dollar quantify one Any and in freight the you Just quarter? from kind for the way of me.

John A. Hayes

dollars in America. million Upper-single North

Brian Maguire

Thanks Okay. very much.

Operator

from Panjabi And with Please our next question Baird. go Ghansham is ahead.

Matthew T. Krueger

actually Hi, Ghansham. Matt good is morning. Krueger in sitting for This

John A. Hayes

Hey, Matt.

Matthew T. Krueger

year-over-year you should the Can profit provide Central Just to volumes the elements there. sense in and of any some to for a hey. aware key trying the the America as you other major startup operating bridge or Can of get we costs, provide that of? North – be segment price/cost terms factors bridge freight, to

John A. Hayes

Yeah.

For the full year?

Matthew T. Krueger

the for Yeah, full be year would great.

John A. Hayes

also year Yeah. alone. said And to million, probably Maybe of second big savings. the in we But annualized million and that half we last quarter. or third Goodyear I'll our of over it quarter be $XX Nothing the with of there. of the step start in of that was that remember But take fourth then third and then, we've expectations has the Dan. had more going beginnings year, $XX that changed net in I'll project late quarter a terms to turn quick realize year-over-year, this that had the excess going hurricanes to it's to early in we're

gets kind maintenance – and in – then, Dan the the and unknown then, we volume, that is specialty, So, is on over quarter now third season into – have those talked the two our of predictive other And minuses our summer, sit second here things alone as the XXs. like quarter. efficiencies and the the right then, the biggest continued going but we're value that, in the really on push in our push about are the what plusses and things you terms of upper we strongest selling

megabeer do we And just seen. as customers tailwinds we can been our all here in has said just CSD side of I summer, The their to-date, we Dan on some States It's into feel good, products. so, the that. there's think not helpful that's as that I position the as been winning. be some there. know. get to And But a start has function United weather referenced is been to – before, the the a headwind. ultimately how It's

Daniel W. Fisher

Yeah.

a I'd effort the year inventory. thing to talked manage think quite the to on we that a weren't conscious I season is we've last customers. last as that Heading bit peak only with those pre-build into add the supply year made chain effective comments our that in we

if So, a cost up, delivering supply efficient products. should have we much the show those to more sales chain

Matthew T. Krueger

for helpful. question maybe very That's a Dan. And then,

or expect beverages you other Given experimenting that and your a develop customers? with seen you've to you CSDs alternative see have number similar do with seen of dynamics can beer sizes,

Daniel W. Fisher

Yeah. great question. That's a

on beer you're hand, our and different maybe discussions. they're traditional customers We're a lot products think, – megabeer queue I with brands channels. well, cans, seeing rest innovative doing that products sleek leading as can, of so they assured of the in are that not have one major those

mean and some, from over see decision we I that and see reference some things should to expect more started next ULTRA, – the how a would rolling they was benefit those out more But You've on we discussions. could well. should to you exceedingly here XX of like things conscious I those of that Michelob that's branded done and months

John A. Hayes

from SpikedSeltzers just also and their it's like not business. beer it's traditional products And that Yeah. extensions alcohol that are the extension, other core beer,

Daniel W. Fisher

Correct.

Matthew T. Krueger

That's very helpful. Thanks.

Operator

from And is Edlain ahead. Go UBS. question our next Rodriguez,

Unknown Speaker

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John A. Hayes

Good morning.

Unknown Speaker

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John A. Hayes

over No, that's a first because how quarter because the year-over-year works. largely carried – pricing that was that that was

Unknown Speaker

or long-term regarding then, approach, And value expect a do doing you to the Okay. that strategy the is continue long how of that there? volume

John A. Hayes

long-term It's part our of strategy.

Unknown Speaker

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John A. Hayes

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Unknown Speaker

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John A. Hayes

absolutely. Yeah,

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Unknown Speaker

you. Great. Okay. Thank

Operator

next question of our from ahead. Lynch. Go is Staphos, Bank Merrill And America George

George Leon Staphos

questions. Hi, question. for thanks everyone. want Thanks come Hi, details. my for to back the beer taking all the I to

trialed? this would initially was Have that when longer of I've in so of expected terms So, asked can, go beverages these can sort you'd you alcoholic normally package up ago of while. surprised in in custom tail is a – to on for or being some years some of the this if asked what I've showing with have back been two you innovations

John A. Hayes

Well, it maybe to and first over Dan. turn then take I'll a stab

just it soft canned all we well equally in glass as does chains a I'll are it's it's United turn than States, and United have that issues, longer-cycle megabeer look And said activity we Let's like. not it's that, having Dan, States. lot the megabeer side there. in seen we built But on the going over of Their so longer take at not forget the would supply on. maybe it

George Leon Staphos

Okay...

Daniel W. Fisher

Yeah.

I I just mind keep got from thing the also to out they they're the to of to they the this, those waking assets in – other kind U.S., why you've long traditional with to think different products And and think channels the leverage up integrated differ from do players going think category beer putting need major be need category different to two in but know as in new vertically they that can. it I as they're that in the packages. probably megabeer George, you

George Leon Staphos

mega haven't apparent. beverages comment a maybe non-alcoholic from of But packaging bit trend time. pretty growth terms this volume been you've that only that necessarily can't a example I'm And more because one the surprised is in again, you non-traditional seen has in on. the piggyback of and And for that seen I sparkling of recognize stimulating negative we long a are more is little that

of to your XX Is really when see So, a think? anyway, and start more it shows time. but but of will you calm. the you're long XX, saying that's in said up XXXX a you XXXX is it's do that on You volume, more phenomenon? that And something months, that year this or

Daniel W. Fisher

question be whether have believe not. not and Then, summer. or comes that end the that a significant lift is of the purchase the definitely million-dollar how consumer product or this that in will volume be we out will at magnitude product stuff does There Yeah.

George Leon Staphos

a Turning to than was like performance sounds bit better be expected. it Europe, expectation, may the from – your

obviously had You volume growth. strong

of comment can better was quarter? it I a if reductions some costs completed of you've in And the synergies. there Rexam less side, than little was you cost terms bit seem then, just remember and a by Was that? how view the driving confirm I underway ahead the what for mark-to-market to expected, or it of program. us your part asking expectation? on as had to – performed I'm give about over the being wanted XXXX. obviously was program But not SG&A more the said of that's that you On what course

Scott C. Morrison

Yeah.

things also synergies. There's original other the I they're on more program the deals. job. side, and that. The had success. do. cost they've cost But is doing very They're a think get from good benefiting into to that tracking had multi-year a we Europe, to They've baked synergies out some to

well. would say, performing I pretty they're So,

John A. Hayes

Dan? Yes,

Daniel W. Fisher

of supply the been things on facilities And of they're new I operational folks. the working Scott's Shingo ahead. are on pleased been installing there. aren't has acquisition two one that and say would side, job better. programs all our efficiency slightly Rexam us a in We're supply of programs. chain certified added new got software the significant. really we've across I nice we think those is think together, of from these I doing them with kind – really operational over Yeah. of the all that's But that really just to mentality three lean the like our lean each to acquired – the Europe point, the via manage just I we've then, chain freight board And helping kind mean, this not is

Scott C. Morrison

And be George, on the SG&A, as think we've done. done don't in XXXX, we'll I

to find more completed have opportunities, of so after we'll always what they'll wanted you you think XXXX. go be a I things, do. as we new through these But lot

John A. Hayes

that, it Nothing changed on we SG&A. drive our another Yeah. in as said has has I nothing George, agree. way changed, to continue about expectations

also concept We are pension relative benefiting year the a past. changed little has of in this spoken about and couple the to what things. But midst from a we're little we've service shared and to this bit in of transitioning nothing global other

George Leon Staphos

last this entail one only integration can the recognize And sorry of peaked out last guys. North tracking expected luck Europe would And it maybe guidance? just Is is cash more than a Thank America, and you, my it's about February you even region year? then, gave you put us at and over. might question, – Rexam this what but quarter. have first in you And the turn I or one Good seasonally quarter. the here you for kind I'll than better juncture, on that, Europe, last back when outlays remind

Daniel W. Fisher

– favorable of positioning because our footprint. regional just would that for the George, Europe, I say, Yeah, mix some we saw and

for I'm entirely I think balance more. the benefits, not of the those year, they'll So, sure continue

thought in we We we performance certainly, out or a line Europe. in Russia coming better expect little But of gate to the kind of was with significantly anticipated. where improved than the for be

John A. Hayes

Yeah.

Scott C. Morrison

one Rexam the outlays This the cash really looking not George. that it is integrated integration for we're And way, there, on at business now.

CapEx. paid of $XXX are capture, already some severance announced that we – not spend now. the in for to This of We're like synergy we've Ball. things looking that. going So, is to it's business get as just or that going disclosure some that that million got closures spending at Europe. in We've we're north announced one It's

Operator

And from Fargo. go our next ahead. Wells Manuel, is Please Chris question

Chris D. Manuel

year. morning, And gentlemen. congratulations a start Good to to the strong

John A. Hayes

you. Thank

Chris D. Manuel

specialty talked now relation something you your or referenced Or how there? I some convergence geographies? ask you as better wanted is be maybe think some question could that products that think continue the here. – some might well? about specialty stuff a or also mix the and I you your mix you press to you by and as you Could to margin release long of in a think that you've of give contract profitability perhaps to about can. anticipate negotiations think talked XX% as you the as with doing And versus that we Look, about in things sense different Is And us do others. will how about in upcoming.

John A. Hayes

it core that of first have Yeah. understand This specialty Dan strategy I And this you I of part to core then, – and take part it's is John. Why it? our about of think can the that. don't talk is because a push whole

the supply XXs. generally think chain is because very flows to less region, speaking, was our off we ability. bit kind a it's when America, about opportunity drink Europe nicely bit little such that we customer. slow. of it's energy in more But Europe by to first greater parts a too in incremental optimization because North market And important of the But a big the lot everything to think it So, the is mid go doing the with of from other upper much specialty a upper don't think it, the have have our America, about. It a footprint it's we same. through base. XXs in in seasonally probably North you and renegotiations quarter. about little it's into Dan contract read you we're was When talking growing quite And

the as countries so And up there. South of probably it's quickly. other catching go into XX%, quite nearly like is China to America then, places of quickly. which And But isn't close percent. quickly, growth Argentina it's very the you moving to go then, they're but that EMEA growing where XX-plus in is probably with I seen of far growth right a and and Brazil. lot around outside XX%, we've think that along it's you

to push – partially time. Dan time we a dependent, receptivity in we we is of And it's new function XX%. strategy. you can on often XX%. is of assured, and said, these some yes, But and our and is customers. products core that you asked total, think approximately of range just these answer this And of the in question So, the of that as It's new And of rest is short parcel think do our do. the by products get function the part get

Operator

Josephson from with is our Please Adam KeyBanc. next question And go ahead.

Adam Jesse Josephson

everyone. Good Thanks. morning,

Daniel W. Fisher

Good morning.

John A. Hayes

(XX:XX).

Adam Jesse Josephson

Dan, just Brazil. one question on

one consumption was mentioned up presumably I'm taking What that's beer. share. market up by XX% of the glass in up function was said And cans were Brazil, about bit just is and your a competitors XX% confused I of and X%. you growing a think in they they

seem So, losing obvious it that doesn't can. they're to share

in expectations the me the can quarter of think a what are understand beer in help X% to on going actual can XQ? up market was relative share your for – Brazilian you is the and you you just from So, what year, what the think perspective up kind market bev consumption there, relative for then

Daniel W. Fisher

your so not reverse to help there that's this. probably if you going beer engineering calculation Actual consumption Yeah. down, was slightly

Adam Jesse Josephson

Okay.

Daniel W. Fisher

don't with they question, know is. I I the I problem with problem can't inventory? returnable that – ultimate glass mean restocking are is, I that mean the that But – what answer

awful this For all the the players of the And lot is or an – an market. not awful in There's XXX% big incremental just beer products. from now. it's or what seen, megabeer on malt-based we've European lot sales. us, craft There's different of

and they're All are from share share in and they're taking those cans, of glass. coming XXX% taking

that or of are that's glass the I beer of breakage though, comments some my returnable the the comment supply on of Adam, from. the for inventory or can't any of or the restocking chain coming genesis mix in folks. the think I where

Adam Jesse Josephson

that improving economy, or the because based sound make is like of supportive but if slightly seem economy about of everyone's robust wouldn't at mean trying that least it So, recovering you I'm to talking that that. would that consumption I was otherwise – on notion. the think down, doesn't sense just

John A. Hayes

of X% lot economy. X%, And not than X%. was down Well, a economy, but X%. ago yeah, flat. improving not or it's healthy an it X% it's or growing Flat's like now, it's but months heck The better a it's is a X%, down GDP XX

you in to got terms. it So, think those of

Adam Jesse Josephson

or one last Dan. John on one Brazil, just And

Just the was if for compared bev X% rough the market X% in can year up in expectations that to quarter, – the so, any XQ?

John A. Hayes

particularly that's more we're and to towards I half out It's emerging – entering our the period. slow is you earlier. seasonally is, in And only alluded think now second in in half Dan the go a second difficult – fourth year, it the visibility this of these quarter, and it the developing further hesitation. the more that economies,

well. We is continue going an country. can that will play overall Brazil, and But have economic up elections to to fall to the mood very think part that important in the the do of in we – the the coming

Adam Jesse Josephson

one think just quite this And Thanks. value about on calls. mentioned you've as previous the don't you Sure. explicit I approach been over earlier. on volume that

obviously? more can about U.S. any kind help have change speaking occasions you're approach previous just in in kind why you So, on or with me least you of at this explicitly the than of

Daniel W. Fisher

for QX versus that we're why market to the specific being was America, it's that for down North results callout Well, year-over-year X% required call. this flat, was a

John A. Hayes

trying it of about It's their closed I got XX-ounce we've I Adam, isn't customers realistic what But volume. so And about more to craft about can on on is talked us mix. tighter energy to that minutes CSD, our efficient the we've grow to it part new talking side that continue becoming ever talked you expand we it's of leader. using better compete we're price. our on If sizes XX be can pool even helping and think since It's pools, can help acquisition, others, help couple But, on be over customers formats, we've the order their play in can a past the different Yeah. cans we And alternatives. value of customer about, help their terms in over do win. your years And tried beer products, where about Whether It's a call-offs. about remember with very line. The to that. do competitive. or the we profit graphics customers that segment, sparkling also. the will bottles our water, talked is we they actually beer drink ago and profit their just

Adam Jesse Josephson

John. lot, a Thanks

Operator

Chip And Please with next go question from is Dillon Vertical. ahead.

Chip Dillon

for morning. good the Thanks this And Yes. morning. all details

it change business is small to EMEA. Should next year in we like of with to volatile $X but rest stay had we ballpark has Should in for it into the And lot that I really the quarterly? can do question First off looked which fallen back very in – it the get – quarter. million that first or of a sort or the expect EBIT. for the much any

Daniel W. Fisher

from I standpoint say, in you'll pattern more a would have QX. year-over-year a normal

recall took may we mentioned tax year, and this place QX you As last of carbonation Saudi in the last year.

our But so, way see to back will like weaker volumes in expectations We little guidance. those a gate. hurdle normalized and year. in expectations our And that are the of continued we in the of bit more half the pattern saw But all trending back versus with out QX. coming line our a Egypt through the

And like profitable. obviously we to more normal the think But a three price, So, kind still what have carbonation to mean tough back we'll consumer. region. acquired. still It's of two end next macro I market. it's The the environment's great we the versus taxes increased not a demand there and the return we profile over years, that

Chip Dillon

will some you expect helpful. when second think mentioned volume the segment, Okay, we again, South the income shifts EBIT looking half look a really comps of And a quarter. from to the you that American you will what sort half? first make above whether its that still see at that's just the was second great of I tougher. And region, after that lot year-over-year compression that basis at, get how much do the in you obviously want of EBITDA, be view on or that a a

John A. Hayes

year-over-year. We quarter first did to was last expected Remember right. stronger. that said conference that's much call, a that it down we the have be No, on we

exceeded the Not to so again, year. as We it the our expectations. is strong. was, as it greatest uncertainty of expected half strong we But second it be have the

the American – be and that teams go in that or do a health. And depending impact got in have last coming flattish it's South the is there, because, year expect have into visibility going World which quarter, quarter so we half go we As now. could slow really into in an we the it'd meaningful But election a plus overall had up. it's economic before the government the a this America to we a second as mentioned, enough year, to We which in is who's down. relatively when the then, all Brazil know, second of strong Cup Dan it. on how elections, event don't probably as right happens And after, you play off-season we've what minus particular, spending in South far second down the

Scott C. Morrison

of in benefit year away the of half. deal have second from also INS that we business the And in the of goes the the sale the first the half

Chip Dillon

one. Okay. last And a then, just

update to As working capital and we're thinking the next can us calculation? this just we to as where year expect Scott, about both you net or the either free flow, cash year, in investment be source that

Scott C. Morrison

We're we couple expect there's And end because less got going $XXX to we'll pop bit doing nice And spend more we capital benefit this that spend to a year to XXXX, experience earnings. I of year. capital a think a the then, in million. a that big this Well, will probably projects that still in we'll get we're this year.

really how $X XXXX. working of in call And capital early too free of part cash so, will that it's billion to be flow much

Chip Dillon

you. Thank Okay.

John A. Hayes

Thanks.

Operator

ahead. Markets. go And from Arun is RBC from our Please question Viswanathan Capital next

Arun Viswanathan

Great. Thanks. Good morning.

John A. Hayes

morning. Good

Arun Viswanathan

been behavior charging against Just customer some prices metal? the markets. not Are about the you guess, competitive for developed any prices, as curious seeing in as pushback with raising Thanks. or prices – There's you're that with issues far I landscape. raising volumes, I mean, guys but issues

John A. Hayes

metal. that so control don't pass-through, metal that remember we a Well, really complete and is

different. And customer so, every is

some spot rate between. have Some have the at done and everything term, it hedged long in

think, number metal is positive And of benefit tell customer. or that that So, can number occur, I fluctuations the to when negative, anything. I don't detriment we generalize we work optimize to accrued two, you all customers the can that. is and But really our with they both one, the

Arun Viswanathan

increase is mix, in characterize ounce really correctly. been specialty going conversion you rates down as it in didn't i.e., commanding any side, I pushback penetration there've I on far the or premium? guess, more – changing difference any I on are Yeah. meant that your as non-XX

John A. Hayes

the nothing changed No, we've has in past. about what from talked

As cans they're though, you it year selling been the a is is up is a price that. great I to actually quarter point the specialty. before, margin we're what in certain to When they're of relaunch I look customers of think proof do using now trying average by the at mentioned the using them. to great first cans benefit retail soft using help And this it's drink their that versus earlier our business a

Arun Viswanathan

noticed areas, relatively in of just specialty you follow-up, or as water, categories? on in maybe lastly those Thanks. and changes kind on, any you've then, those category And so comment growth robust tea, can have energy remained a non-beer, drinks

Daniel W. Fisher

star category. in the sparkling No changes. water Obviously, fundamental is the the group

a think nominal I growth is this kind of opportunity. tea

any see the that's But their and a also foreseeable the craft preference very the end haven't good positive really most bullish changes penetration. consumers that those those categories, trends to But the we're that. of growth, and range in But seen season shifting XX% mostly beer, You peak summer in substrate months. on future. that we in to yeah, still for XX% to continues through

Operator

from follow ahead. have Please up Chris we question Manuel, Fargo. a go Wells And

Chris D. Manuel

to follow address profitability, get I was back Could what on that go those at about maybe think, morning. what specialty. each One, of to thoughts a potential the actually addressed just wanted mix through you changes couple But is things. I Good time. well? of up as you converging and trying in I different for part

John A. Hayes

I'm please not elaborate follow. a bit – Can more? little Please you sure I

Chris D. Manuel

than guys piece or historically have thoughts the time think if I that and better having or is profitability through potentially you converging? mean I cans about margin sure. that you a talked that more do Yeah, what becomes the bigger standard conversion specialty cans have

John A. Hayes

expect short We're for don't before. said I the seen customers no. the nothing we necessarily is helping reasons our We've Well, answer and grow.

loading, over need Each can different better it makes in there's and here make contribution with things the it do can. job sound – a there's sizes We alone. having standard that different margin of One of we it two having customers multiple control to profile the specialty America just line geographies, XX a make North those we to having like has leverage we to locations, do with volume one ability demand a partially a on whole that do our that have host make about cans, do of, there's with that in a both multiple with combine are how the in and basis. volume, from sizes, regional things in and our national multiple to to of footprint we

a to sizes that can to XX that much different continue we our that another have profitability. else given it And going complexity effectively it create that and grow does anyone we system. footprint more load helps all continue that line put in than we we're You believe together our can, if going for to can to do and push their customers we're more

question you a yes, very sizes, compression difficult So, to size. competition see XX more making you're always any you have when in will volume as over given different it's and grows But answer.

Chris D. Manuel

Okay.

job. you. a good did You Thank

versus filling filling the in they're substrates? of question, other in you versus change the in gears comments more a proposition and preference abandoning meaning recycling back for or filling their Have a or second can specifically or glass and wanted I seen regarding disinvesting with switch come customers plastic. discussions have to second or The had to of value for regarding capacity capacity, investing particular that even for capacity cans earlier

John A. Hayes

level. States. In There here the – United it, have United really United States products do Europe, we States, in the of the for all but we four off can top been lines new In down think we've or filling South point, strong But regions my head, some growth. at experiencing very I these Dan's of going is a not. the America, of in example, haven't. and of filling small to five yes, can excess that In types capacity in have for Europe, in we

shift, if from have So, the want call know the it a a don't has been seen we – to you can. I incremental side but investment filling the going in

Chris D. Manuel

that about very billion. both growth That's and growth monetize that It couple should the helpful. revenue look segment? see question on last long $X wasn't So, had, And that terrific in think aerospace was Okay. ago well profitability do we under that backlog. to then, over the How how next we the beginning I growth years? side, it in

John A. Hayes

number I will one, revenue. follow think, Well, profits

quarter I a contraction. And expansion I margin past any representative. or material think So, was expect good wouldn't this

the think relatively same. were I margins

revenue digits, double the think. digits, I line, low-double we On grew

I think be it. good that's a way about to thinking

One us of even years at can things look confidence three, visibility. up five sometimes literally a we that four, gives and have the we that's the go that the visibility into is long-cycle so business,

comfort. that's which those what the but we haven't won Our they at we projects been because not And in booked won, funded have as that well. record us yet have booked gives backlog highs is is not

– extend growth backlog, that's going to As out see. and into we get programs this those move we our as contracted pattern funded – that that

Chris D. Manuel

you Thank very much. Okay.

Operator

all are we those questions gentlemen, have. the And

John A. Hayes

end in going to to to We Day have the we Colorado the free questions. to appreciate beginning forward in out second Scott of on to questions, Ann everyone. speaking we you help October. here reminder, here we our any that. feel appreciate all all the of as And have you a Investor look Terrific. And Thanks, out if very Well, a and the quarter. are at reach

Operator

you call day. disconnect may does We your that gentlemen, of your and conclude thank our Everyone, have participation. today. ladies And for for a And you great line. rest your

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