ACGL - Earnings call transcript Q3 2019

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q3 2019 Arch Capital Group Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].

As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded.

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I you would Marc introduce Mr. Mr. to and François host begin. conference, today's may your for now like Morin. Sirs, Grandisson;

Marc Grandisson

Thank you, to Crystal, morning and good you.

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call hand to François. the And that, over with I'll

François Morin

all. you, Marc, morning good to and Thank

per operations that you I some basis, these the i.e, I comments corresponds results, with the which the Watford on other financial to was at for After-tax an give Watford. to X.X% to year quarter prior increase our Book a per share grew from operating XX, our average Holdings the increase the $XXX results a of term XX.X% September a common wanted Before observations consistent for quarter $X.XX Limited. ago. on are comments translates In X you quarter, filings, which on and XX.X% to remind excluding million, last segment, and Arch's third $XX.XX consolidated practice, value equity annualized from core return on operating share. income includes

reinsurance reflects due both and in strong our were reinsurance hurricane underwriting to contributions X.X from events XXXX million This effect quarter, Starting result reinstatement insurance recoverables $XX points. from combined operations. Dorian losses the and net Typhoon investment Jebi. or and of both with These results. ratio premiums catastrophic and primarily stood impacted Losses underwriting and at the of segments our

are combined prior loss As combined favorable ratio X.X the recognized we compared to of for of reserve points X.X development period in net net development, million approximately quarter, related adjustments third $XX.X for ratio million points $X.X million quarter and at $XX development and respectively. million, XXXX. insurance, third mortgage in All the of of $XX.X segments, favorable reinsurance experienced X segments the our

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overrated for and allocation, economic to environment. as at global interest we to X.XX Our expect end, a relative investment growth is slightly continued our target in years slowdown a rate portfolio quarter to duration lower continue longer fact up

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December in expires stood at $XXX which at authorization, remaining million XXXX Our XXXX. XX, September

debt XXXX. XXX was at plus points capital our total to capital ratio to -- at XX.X%, stood capital preferred basis and from to down year-end debt debt Our end, ratio XX.X% quarter total

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now questions. comments, to prepared take are these With we your introductory

Operator

[Operator Zaremski Instructions]. comes And our first Mike Suisse. Crédit from question from

Michael Zaremski

I in pace, see primary insurance it's an space constrained. Is your the the be you you? the you -- Capital some can And talked where you can this sandbox? the in marketplace Or is greatest Maybe that there in remarks, opportunity my In there account prepared very could in not think to curious it Arch talk sized the gravitate? the greatest wrong that's dislocations is marketplace. and it feels which understanding like where locations could about reinsurance, benefit if stress capacity mega the in that just

Marc Grandisson

is assessment right on. your think I

the competitors larger been on find are you'll was, where I marketplace place. is last are say, is that where most that the activity. the from to are the who overextended taking most of the limits well risk, dislocation this We in are think is we most other is you'll positioned those reevaluating risk going commercial, that. for in mediation carry mostly record seen deployment we appetite, in the here And where compared the we've advantage -- more and that historically and several their years. I calls on is because increase more this are been which shall large risk had And to that of take very the E&F defensive submission

of I a think opportunities more speak, receiving of this flex at those of we more able we where and as end looking is on we're muscle. are to our

Michael Zaremski

Okay.

want just to So confirm.

from obviously you the the So smaller. rating have great large balance insurance have balance a rating and agencies a sheet, relatively sheet you is primary but

as the can space? they of they total and the piece like see they terms Arch sheet, counterparties brokers, guys when you of larger at So whether of kind you you take a -- -- assessing entity do look in big at the balance account

Marc Grandisson

perspective appetite for us. Yes, -- community they some commercial think few open of -- are. client one community to heightened for you think and And looking I us are community with engage also very the the have appropriately. to up And a we at and risk there for commercial from our I that the price willing are that is anecdote book very that

Michael Zaremski

Okay. That's to something could don't and There if of coming to you FHA things some know And and there private Justice barking that of FHA helpful. agreement thoughts been And up mortgage switching the kind volumes, of shifts back any place? out take a talk marketplace. recent insurance maybe it's have there's I the maybe the gears about is mortgage week. insurance. earlier Department this with from

Marc Grandisson

I thought always about have everything.

decriminalize Mike early, early mortgage it think ends where administration and a have of being to right? comment was last And the very guess, a would But to how not initial being and you. be tell FHA we'll the sector would goes this my result reluctant I we I its as it's sector to -- wants most announced view. agreement uncertainty will too the banking So as you Washington, early FHA to, to in that, though to where up. the what area In attempt see to that also It's still It's week. whether the it's And an to is part I is It channel. provide say week. you sort banking of that the insurance do. different government deployed. There private general, like favored say is different system here

this the and next But it, years. seen we're goes see it's several have a sense We'll years. long watching going to for that it many takes we'll where have over more We for where and us. take time

Michael Zaremski

last one that to past some given like one in volumes. And share Do alluded competitors strong tell. basis? view have of quarters believe just on It systems. all one-off too so little to on is absolute the probably market your their proprietary market but share -- share be quarter, feels this I didn't own insurance might give you because kind it's of kind year up you move or market over mortgage me next early bit that still -- you a is still obviously as down

Marc Grandisson

gives of in don't how manage quarter. will only are react deploy competitors everything company a share innings it's versus see falls client the the think And lot we're that And market early ours. the feel I one same the to blackbox with -- out. of on how you harder we We new see environment, our we're still most the modules, pricing their a right how way. basis, their they the But and pricing as know, in the there where market just to you're put where us the out we

our there write we're in So that business not and of we we share just see and what target wrote we the up would market able pricing happens it I return receive from quarter. any to this that we describe amount with said. so our put I would that

Operator

Our next Elyse from from Fargo. comes Wells question Greenspan

Elyse Greenspan

My is question first pricing question how you? your commentary. -- are first on hey, Marc, My

in insurance, quarter. you the X.X% said price So

little probably trying that? help if just of would bit that guess, there's guys us a on your can X.X as And think know a businesses loss But assume net I of sense, and with some question. you book new better? points excess a getting you're get price, to trying an do as I'm aggregate view so I in And trend, I lot you how going well

Marc Grandisson

Yes, it's pointingout diversed book portfolio, is you're and as business. very very, rightfully X.X% our for a that

Some because lines of the I business of not are board still, housing as it's said, market.

and Some lines in some of a excess flattish are XX% XX% way increase. and actually are getting on rate business

in even the And or quite if so X%, a you're getting new business bit X% of even middle-of-the-road. are

So pretty is point thinking -- still I about how important. you're would starting your the just

a -- the works business or one pointed, So monolithic you marketplace you diverse. monolithic it number market very of business. very Rate have our well having book is But Capture as and when -- our the it's not at very X.X% everything, is

loss growing the looking it's We're rate the you growth opportunities terms of rate return the in that were rate than change opportunity margin claims I either seeing of for change regardless always clearly change a because the So to where and good because think if loss a look of rate game safety. changes is we see we're beating of trend a not [indiscernible] pick returns -- at have decimal. in

Elyse Greenspan

business, said new insurance business or guys Okay. book And some of quarters a quarter. lot of the I you right, then think X new

that be? Arch I higher would assume price would you're as margin? guess, a So business loss of down you're and the better But underline on than getting get we bringing probably margin ongoing renewal. insurance towards that, we this think right, saying you the legacy good profile like that than to I about about business picks bit on how said, the where the book, So do mid-XXs little

Marc Grandisson

Yes this may the add to -- just us rate sheet. find margin because business way we because business my to, up. report a of whether look going It of rate be it return, because home change. going the the operative is want if marketplace to new aspect And balance we acquiring rate our are that reacted one players did of because gives or set at the good to that just have not we good you if

forward. appropriately change rate -- But we have enough -- have we speak margin actual going I or loss at argue room that of were, considerably we to think that on look very, expanding time. trend method I would as business where that and is speaking, segment this the to we straightforward the surprises broadly very have has and in this don't we maneuver so in a point booked actually we and assuming

Elyse Greenspan

[indiscernible] Okay. my That's question. then helpful. number last And

I kind gone ballpark, year? of about XX%. updated think the time the like this the level mortgage I last little think, or higher us you still earnings within a bit Is that it's right guys maybe

Marc Grandisson

done because on and higher some side. we've year P&C the Well, phenomenally has definitely it's got cap mortgage yes, this well

that We'd a last of to be proportion a total, the going improving bit slightly over less has earnings think a in is well. more. the bit segments more As a mean, still as to balance start like market I think and it as the P&C think out so. to and just I of grow. mortgage we we hopefully, P&C from P&C quarters, coming I mortgage, growing lot can there see and But earnings is help runway that should think the few room little are the will it more

Operator

next Our from Deutsche Bank. Josh from question comes Shanker

Joshua Shanker

related. Two P&C and mortgage questions. related One, one

obviously, the a side, quarter. P&C the the and based Can very a is reduction can foresee we structure? when growth across sized expense larger On a premium based the we ratio cost on amortizing it similarly strong foresee in

Marc Grandisson

to regional XXXX, should think like about. Yes, second don't U.K., as some earn premium that kind Everything half we're have of the Josh, we'll and sometime I thinking think some that we maybe I it's again, mere book that that's that think we've, see like forecast, but to or we improvement. -- equal, XXXX think, I in think see to we realistic of being the else shouldering of

that or still committed before, target, is we've year, it, one said You started road. improvements in like it least improvement XX but through to five making the at to years think combined not next -- -- That We're to some coming months, two going guys achieve the we're win we ratio. whether XX at way, certainly in we're along over ratio. have I down the combined see XX the years right their to a we're we heard XX

Joshua Shanker

underwriting expense ratio, ratio course? is loss up Great. to then typically And obviously, the of the

Marc Grandisson

Correct.

Joshua Shanker

it, a came mortgage a insurance the written that lot obviously, Can differs with prior to a growth should new whether in the specifically think business talk side, that housing about and XX%. from new LTV the of And business how it lower in of whether appreciation you somebody and but How this proportion contracts very little from off quarters? high your takes book? then quarter, about the the has we on persistency than refi's but core

Marc Grandisson

you're NBA the, Deferred you in there growth quite market the system last couple growing that's to still Well, surprise, to rate the for bps years mortgage mortgage right. of -- XX despite refinancing The it's the in is And getting the it's overall the look not is origination, growth by actually market. to but at over better of purchase months. XXX the reaction if the and next a be a drop expected. and was and

So the I -- say activity still but -- refinancing MI of flurry, we refinancing lot that of would reason across the the the attached it, occurring. is have heightened a that still had would we I XX%. the biggest reason And it this the they with say haven't and we -- LTV is to was blow portion originated recently, this bigger

back it go to client us mortgage offering That's our same to and insurance actually the them. to So allows it. re-up again

Joshua Shanker

low-risk a how to the or because persistency Is MI, below it closer business versus profitable we low-risk getting of more that is rest about it's because because point that is getting close XX%? think to lower this risk-adjusted mean business the I there of where a refi that to basis should needs a on is the...

Marc Grandisson

wise. the same bit for So it's above risk are same -- as it's risk price It's wise the little evaluating. you same the goes a

renewal of is do I book bit of -- and -- less with like forward sort of think business. business. rolling book of to it's It's the a pricing little there same has pricing it a a lot is

I saying in. But is after risk-adjusted everything similar factor of very, slightly you less. we're very think So

Joshua Shanker

refi or previous -- skills you customer? of that you Are the it change mix before or procurement customers -- because a your it does a had up these it's picks is that customers likely depends get on from the or crapshoot, same who

Marc Grandisson

of and the is make latter anything. some you try but don't action our do book points can if more you likely to protect business, think I

pool. it with. back by be I think refinanced back. originator begin a may it mortgage the goes It's just through to to thrown It different

So have different that going along will that. with relationships

So...

Operator

Our comes Dunn Dowling Geoff next from & question from Partners.

Geoffrey Dunn

First the quarter? in provide cost the results you could net off, this ILM

Marc Grandisson

the at the Bellamy's the obviously Well, way it, picture, look about it outstanding you of layer of big old Geoff, balance of should But we advertised. cost. by varies some roughly or the as X% think

we let told And about we So in outstanding you X%. will of you of limits a I billion the rest $X.X do Bellamy place, the math.

Geoffrey Dunn

Okay. And then, year trend year new can cover terms moved looking the that? the you talk It do reception like deals weight the at seen mask beyond decision benefit you talk in cost? looks Can to our business continuing by going do we've we're points? have this and detachment of this And risk about the plus how cap that cover. for to versus now forward? you Market mass just

Marc Grandisson

a requirements. initially different to bit, agencies Right. very capital there's rating the I in or focused requirements. we say want with little coverage PMI structures on like that attach have last you and Well, beyond bit certainly slightly few much on moved that, a more the views focused were and capital detach weeks said

of get a us, our is part that's interested that, maybe cost yes, at additional for some trade-off we So the sure making rate a capital at management we're protection and decision. and always in -- can that efficient

appetite tremendous investment So for -- at look that's such it. And is we in part community I there the question, it's of products. how think your

road. and fact up down that the you there placing a bit the we've bit know, more little And the, are success like and for we instruments. going in we're pass us programs they a expanding those think said, you in hopefully As the tremendous [indiscernible] to had the

Geoffrey Dunn

Okay. a quick And follow-up. there's last

basically just lapse market? change that flat attractiveness any experience of The other was the in -- you Are seeing IIF you CRT GSE, is rate are or sequentially. the

Marc Grandisson

having of did know, a XXXX -- have sort rate would normal X X, Geoff, and as allocation added rolloff, you since a seasoning of our just of appetite more terms years. we've in last you stabilizing been a getting for so and still or a sort frankly run the It's

Operator

And Goldman our next from comes from Kinar question Yaron Sachs.

Yaron Kinar

just is and casualty some My about around treaty signed tail signed you or longer in main question and lines, multiyear explicitly growth have and you a talked Seems the growth think insurance that reinsurance. multiyear program premium I reinsurance. the

we're you those tell the us gain given options that deterioration thereof. comfort in lines around us how hearing talk and increased of about here? concerns kind Can Just maybe growing just or through of you

Marc Grandisson

very I these I Yes, would don't want put that in nature. us call to know, renew transaction the and We for is bit a of opportunistic a with this but, -- pricing, point, in foreseeable unusual. you And lot whatnot. would of to it came more future the camp to changes the detachment

on. not renewed that we same necessarily the structure it's So that you're

of comments, about be So parts in any return one to level more would the at there's believe forward. we a your that heightened covers That's François, in That trend here. outcome safety of on of loss that of potential distress, the the the lot than of moving transaction. squarely differently range camp -- of tremendous going which said outcome you

Yaron Kinar

then other And more surplus program Okay. And that's specific be transition. construction casualty? a that's broadly, the

Marc Grandisson

accounts have -- would so the there in comp national in the on loss our that helps have we taking view a good loss picks. mean I similar. more construction workers trend Very

certainly terms really any casualty, On mentioned loss I in have than I being trends. we think you for in similar the E&S up but to would had having we the of pushed to overtones you transaction, reinsurance level, similar that a distress the phenomenon distress same very not just price of far a at different level that be believe make a into And uncertainty repriced. marketplace

Yaron Kinar

are this than more attractive you deploying capital something reinsurance into insurance Does looking it. think of underlying insurance additional are be year on broadly more And of at where may improving may be or benefit you become then the Got book? getting the conditions as improvement then reinsurance that reinsurance, side. you the

Marc Grandisson

reinsurance the is think different. a playbook little I bit

I insurance think have, because quickly be XXXX, quicker is improvement on quicker in look buy move business this on history, the the as to But as and insurance reinsurance behind needle leading seen you think, quarter. not well. a saw reinsurance just can you insurance our at lot get much rate But the from had going if and you build. the the we same embarked I through is Yaron. that's change access SO to group I playbook, with a on team back the slower you really and company transaction Steckler more and XXXX the ability the group partnership pen, quicker a far numbers much in more significant than our rather mentioned

Operator

from Brian comes UBS. next Meredith from Our question

Brian Meredith

A couple questions of here.

transaction, First, on under premium any to be also there what transaction. may the And the any in came ratios? big I'm the was portfolio that unpaid reinsurance it intuitive distort premium? just curious of Did

Marc Grandisson

early. It's No.

mean, I port incoming is in. So is LBD, no there no there

it's then a of really. multiyear And not in great is terms So ratio deal.

been whole So is. it ratio, it's there of loss normal expense is hard has level ratio, a lot been

really the picture it in for point. at segment. the big impact this There's So no

Brian Meredith

curious just are here et the the for? then are to if et And another much you're seeing, those how is segment, in your to long look about continue that highlighted making? cetera, insurance expected due way And just you're it that Great. that I claims, of underwriting some How at you versus making acquisition to cetera. investment the you think expenses of growth investments that

Marc Grandisson

I'd say, a more the roughly is from that acquisition speaking, be half, there than good, probably we've made. mean, is X/X I may

in think brought some there small as other growing I the I that still a beyond amount investments premium the of I that terms of IT much. on at and see are made still then, acquisition, more supplement adjustments And few we opportunities business year. is that in as XXXX with to think areas, keep those been underwriters or we of we We staff. them. for lines full the think don't where where there by help investment than of would've portfolio other earn brought early to and the and and said of us the for top we've that fair fully making like a us on make claims appropriate people time that, are before, with right mentioned, as some we a So to are will

the books months, level premium little we're and be down that and bit. of over on should even out it or putting go turns kind next once now XX may a So the earns stabilize the out

Brian Meredith

to be mix volatile, volatility little but is another multiyear it underlying agreement, this some something of property, more heading Great. look are on, why Great. putting question, is maybe at kind combined the a growth of the perhaps results forward that is kind And more expect bit property cat? a lower we little I Businesses shift of guys towards of that if going trade should excluding more you ratio business? in tend

Marc Grandisson

The the result. property insurance reinsurance is some protection are it necessarily against a a getting some not but volatilities balance leaves we -- is exposed is as cat cover that growing of there side, on the

exposed. On not is the reinsurance probably growth necessarily most that side, I cat think of

So bit a it's growth. a of different

side. the cat grant we small of underweight to Some relatively to exposed, what would very be say the cat are compared some growing, our although you on expect of we wouldn't

a result as expect don't more much we of no volatility that. So

Brian Meredith

of I'm maybe capital fundable as growth reinsurance Great. between work? And your in kind just guys insurance area, business insurance to and we operations, of the and look your MI easy reinsurance? all at out curious, Is how just mortgage it the is in insurance in How's this or are take money it my fund insurance growth question, businesses? the reinsurance last curious the putting on you terrific

Marc Grandisson

comfortable. you upstream substantial evidence quarter not, it's the noted operations Well, maybe in in from a the MI result third that a fairly our group. down this U.S. as XXX% to quarter numbers was PMI the and of ratio the But went

money that growth segments. is that that is business other to their both insurance find lines and available was in all of So --

not is to stories also forecasts use do he and and can't It's once It's conditions and the But it ability whim a areas. that of show it there's and scenarios lot sad a do? and overnight. to certainly have reserves, with picture, capital on stress or, just so but we a process. and certainly abide figuring move easy with, regulatory down some and it around we in other how scenarios sit we them out used the we them of have So get to approvals

Operator

KBW. from Shields comes next question Our Meyer from

Meyer Shields

hoping to about I I the you understand submission question. how was could -- one only flow think with had contingency? give associated these expenses Marc,

Marc Grandisson

think I to to to dealing efficient And talk [indiscernible] of expensive. tools, about hitting. get of with have more investments more and such those more proactive using it's really in get much that we the Yes, is one that as being submissions we more that one the higher a chance

be That's yes, of on the to certainly augment that the point them. to investing able platform. the throughput is that we one So of, absolutely, to part are

Meyer Shields

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Marc Grandisson

submission coming us. now, more to right we're So seeing

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Operator

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Ronald Bobman

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Marc Grandisson

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ability think be to different couldn't way I the a us business gives do. access in it that able to we

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Operator

comes next from Our Research. from question Ryan Tunis Autonomous

Crystal Lu

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Marc Grandisson

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Crystal Lu

the more environment internal Okay. down target business timeline there? then changed one That's profitability in on just strategy terms of question helpful. How getting XX% to is and And view mix your on the pricing your your eventually. insurance changing

Marc Grandisson

it's not changing where think we going. I are

tell sooner. you. market is the that us would likely quicker What I think and helping I getting most there

Operator

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Marc Grandisson

To Thank quarter. there, happy next you see Halloween. and you, everyone

Operator

Ladies thank today's for conclude conference. This and in does you the gentlemen, program. participating

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Arch Capital (ACGL) 30 Oct 192019 Q3 Earnings call transcript