ACGL - Earnings call transcript Q4 2019

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q4 2019 Arch Capital Group Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded.

Before the Company gets starts with its update, management wants to first remind everyone that certain statements in today's press release and discussed on this call may constitute forward-looking statements under the federal securities laws. upon a assessments uncertainties. number based are assumptions are to subject of statements management's and current and These risks and

actual materially differ results expressed Consequently, implied. or from those may

other information factors investors the review that with the reports filed periodic more time the For risks SEC should that affect from future on may performance, by Company are and to time.

forward-looking Reform the in the based of facts, are not Private call on of meaning Litigation are contained statements that statements the certain Act Additionally, XXXX. Securities within historical

Company intends statements on the GAAP reference furnished which to financial forward-looking also created website. Form SEC the yesterday, definition the earnings available Company's be of subject the in reconciliation X-K in make operating of can to report The thereby. and the be to to contains to will Harbor measures income release The Company's call some found non-GAAP the in and Safe press performance. is Management current the Company's

like I for Morin. begin. to and today's Sirs, you would Francois Grandisson; Marc introduce Mr. now Mr. may conference, host your

Marc Grandisson

the operations Arch well and remains the and you. the casualty morning property to mortgage on improvements pricing healthy in XXXX place many you, Crystal, areas and footing Thank insurance strong for good market positioned taking market. completed our as are of

for XX% X.X% operating the grew full return an XX.X% book the quarter on and per year. annualized fourth XX% income for share quarter for produced for year Our common and equity the of value nearly while the

harder transitioning phase believe increasing conditions. While and property a market lines the casualty remains in of several soft in we are rates and between business,

increases further risk more clear reward provide we Given believe the trends, a current uncertainty our to industry propositions. needs of rate claim

remain selection and transitional critical returns. superior environment, allocation this In to capital thoughtful generating risk

de-risk at ability by are increases. participants ongoing conditions from location This As and standards by activity our is the tightening down and our to actively their market us discussed last quarter, some achieve both to significant rise managing strengthening in evident industry submission we underwriting rate exposures.

to likely soft in regarding due years. losses the We to believe the recent continuing foreseeable future continue the policy are these that uncertainty conditions from

are review, over inflation, where component stress industry's lines to large be the and of X rise social our and on to picks in years. tied conditions can of performance some While last to a the prolong there the the due loss optimistic is soft market X policy business loss P&C costs

our by through improvements. organically as premiums. XX% the fourth while quarter are the reported But transition XXXX from ratios or one still are growth coming of new from rate written segments, throughout XX% opportunities was quarter the improve growth insurance year, growth Therefore, of Within for our our duration high, capital in levels XXX. hardening and the came still combined conditions unpredictable. is below market premium rest net recent acquisitions, About created indicated

of increases in more losses area property property U.S. Following risks the up both the three years elevated than exposed cat particularly internationally, E&S in are XX%. in U.S. and rate

public and increases rates liability not seen not we large are rising are previously, D&O But discussed also all company rates ranging from in XX% to enough. and commercial rate in have XX% We areas some lines policies. in general as rising

giving In discipline to follow business, business, and fac improved leading observed returning point. to our segment of now Switching reinsurance in our pricing levels has three and reinsurance submission that some the the we positive have been facultative us and to reinsurance tends indicator much signs signal conditions Fac is historically increasing we pricing. this at primary we liked market. of seeing insurance market are reinsurance a

XXX commissions improvements conditions remain ranging from bps percentage commissions we are to level X X see above are including in declines the beginning Ceding in modest and the to side, market. last hard ceding terms On in points. and the elevated seen however treaty

property renewals renewal Focusing what remain reinsurance January rate for opportunities underweight increases a primarily is the in but reinsurance Xst cap period minute, reinsurance risk. for created we our cap a group, on a few

our X internal XX% is equity At capital. capital. risk of limitation P&L a of As X.XX-year up point, this and X% equity self-imposed reminder, only stand our

insurance Turning MI now segment, well. to our continues mortgage to perform Arch

As quality I healthy strong is mentioned credit characterized environment. a earlier, the by operating environment and housing

led was Accordingly, In the written our rates mortgage addition, interest strong in U.S. roughly quarter. at billion Arch in XX new the strong new lower insurance originations at to quarter. MI

U.S. lower On XXX force high. recent at was rates into in originations more time, forces creating macro demographic underwriting the high as formation Overall, have their in of made the remained our household same and a affordable. U.S. insurance move housing basis, prime millennials interest a and very At quality are billion tailwind quarter employment end years. the

XX%. quarter. led refinancing the quarter Lower explains high From perspective, remains level in historical quarter our which with the mortgage decline our supported rate interest in good rates enforce and a growth also to insurance origination the fourth to greater a along activity this in activity, persistency down in in

interest the value and respect in we our focus maintained approach, historically total this have With to which have contributed risk return on operations, to growth in year. per underwriting investment rates returned our quarter our to share our adjusted book as low in levels

lines years following favorable. deemphasizing summary, is soft and the casualty commoditized business In market property is in or Arch most positioned

human its the financial continue trajectory capital XXXX. have favorable to grow should and market into We the

the hand I'll with that, to And Francois. call over

François Morin

good all. morning to Mark, you, Thank and

are core Watford practice, Holdings results Before for to In Limited. the Arch's the quarter, on segments, other the corresponds on I financial these Watford. consolidated that comments term of filings, operations wanted you which some our I fourth observations executing and the with i.e. to remind basis, give includes our you a comments results consistent prior

XX.X% last share. equity the $XXX.X a from This per and quarter for income per average operating from increase operating strong $X.XX million, investment effective XX.X% both result to grew annualized at increase which year reflects value return contributions underwriting After-tax $XX.XX one the XXst, on operations. December a and ago. an X.X% common to our quarter and Book was share translates from

of quarter, million points, both recoverables points or ratio typhoon impacted combined net to of underwriting events with and the series premiums Hagibis These from Starting primarily compared X.X ratio $XX.X reinstatement the reinsurance fourth losses results, reinsurance combined X.X in insurance our events. at to XXXX. due quarter losses and in and catastrophic smaller stood of XXXX a and segments were

we million $X.X fourth fourth $XX.X X.X loss compared As net for combined mortgage three insurance, All the of quarter $XX.X favorable in X.X XXXX. points or period our points, favorable million, segments prior developments net development, recognized for related quarter, the of adjustments, and and combined respectively. ratio reserves million million the $XX.X ratio of experienced segments reinsurance of developments in to at

to large the smaller expense UK the The our units, primarily of level growth higher some elevated points premium segment same one balance attritional investments of same insurance the in one other driven higher is business primarily by claims over We year quarter-to-quarter. in basis to had basis excluding the book regional period surety quarter difference of of cabs due making ago. The we due by XXX is ago. quarter, insurance was solid from ratio acquisitions. an the the from combined written XX.X% from quarter XXX.X% in points experience segments net year accident which and are the a volatility can XXX and ratio, integration the Approximately our

attritional one casualty basis the same the operations the XX.X% quarter on our different the caps onto mostly growth where excluding quarter moving X.X% year premium from the relatively XX.X% ratio wildfires the one had quarter. arising was Now combined same to loss year year at ago, stood ago. is from to we Net a quarter and attributable compared a reinsurance at ago. of California stable large in The same one accident presence

at Our unchanged expense XX.X%. ratio remained essentially

expected MI points result The mortgage one in operations. combined the of experience. quarter last ago, by the The of segments strong year, quarter result same by quarter primary our of performance than better points underlying as than ratio of the lowered a improved U.S. the the book, XXX within claim continued fourth X.X% of calendar accident recorded particularly basis as from basis ratio XXX mostly quarter result year loss is a

ratio the ratio in XX.X% to loss the points expense basis points the in was from year current XXX a ago. year basis development to to a The XXX of one on basis perform years. period the prior within same investment results related Total was benefit dollar as consistent points positive quarter was return our well. basis the addition portfolio U.S. for XXX continue The quality high favorable

returns our income fixed For equity X.X% returns strong period, investments. driven portfolio across our the particularly an by result XX-month and excellent

to mix quarter continue was effective The a and our as environment. at X.XX to was tax to pre-tax tax September interest our our allocation, we target was and on XXst, of investment operating the slightly point quarter. global the portfolio rate years income corporate geography basis for the pre-tax X.X% items years a of lower X.XX discrete from XX benefit it from The in December down relative overweight XXth, income duration in longer rate reflects expect

results tax rate the fourth $X.XX Arch after income operating shareholders adjustments share. XX.X an on includes XXXX or period adjustment per available interim to increase on This tax taxes to operating common at The quarter effective Company's by rate. annualized an pre-tax income million recorded

income tax location of effective each rates depending varying level could rates and As in always, vary the jurisdiction. tax the or on loss and

basis the and expected opportunities remains capital recent with in more deploy pricing, improving ability natural equity well market an increased which cap improvements X January XXX slightly This an tangible below offer of basis. at returns we adequate that X.XX-year briefly incrementally change our the our X, single common levels. internal net our million risk to catastrophe Joining the event on in management return X% of PML at as limits demonstrates more to have to to on than

of as million. we on quarter, our our call, In fourth in Bellemeade completed XXth mortgage prior with segments, covers transaction our XXX earnings the mentioned

coverage As of Bellemeade reinsurance structures X.X enforced XXXX, provide aggregate of the year-end approximately billion.

respect we quarter. With not management, capital this shares repurchase did to

expires stood in December XXst. billion Our at XXXX X December at remaining authorization which

debt down total and capital XXX basis at preferred points Our was at quarter total plus to XXXX. ratio XX.X% to XX%, capital from end ratio stood year-end debt

platform Finally, underway. of integration of we on Barbican closed November the as know, you is acquisition year. last their well in The

December XX, we XXXX acquisitions For approximately to made of XXXX. XX prior have year, expect to incur across intangible amortization all million we calendar the

to these prepared are comments, now With introductory take your questions. we

Operator

comes [Operator Sachs. Yaron Instructions] And first Kinar question Goldman from from our

Your open. line is

Yaron Kinar

see growth heard just rate in your sounds comments yet, it So I in my the segment, think market clip the a even first that I growth constructive or seeing were lukewarm of and grew you on you And and acquisitions, so. so conditions, become the environment opportunities? correctly, And the excluding rate adequacy. like gapping? are you're if at insurance I the more opportunities where if of question good goes where you you to XX% guess market do to terms

Marc Grandisson

saying, want first I stages hard lukewarm on full a part We that think, upon the impress is, The to everyone sense we're that, it early changes the of when really markets. is just in comments going make don't industry of know high, to we And time about how numbers. still then an also reasonable the I all ratio capital fact last. combined and printing long that's has very the

make point want business. across to all it's I the So lines of not that just

fourth Having growth, return through there see and in market year where go the expectations. for us are experience levels is back areas even quarter to pricing our this, the coming and said and you as a certainly the

eating as those I get pricing a of we've to deemphasized We're production. submissions, had able lines a seen quite we while actually resurgence business return. softer our our and And year. we're and think So, for a late, and of into of hit on

definitely improving or improving where areas is concerns trend we're cost an may believe clearing I say we of would and we're such that the growing, lost have. trend in some one market that So the that loss it

as we grown year. that indicated So, have, market would as the over much also would remind to the last probably I want have had not

is this -- is hyper this So, group on number. good no, a lower

premium was about versus instance last years of what written was half it year the five on our D&O For side, ago.

dent a of increase. don't increase make need much you price to the overall So, in an really

seeing the a you saw, Yaron, we're we the good, on can question still And still conditions. we amount. something lot. we whether right I as very We based grow And and second getting grow is. now conditions a If fair think can continue can very, asked, grow on

rate we have have I even have but do those more, will and people in XXXX. more, an softer quite guys, been our -- much our I depend a if very overall that capacity in think bit it to write be like we years, level happens. busy and believe How dictated been extra appetite

Yaron Kinar

could growth in premium the accelerate like sounds right It that market conditions.

Marc Grandisson

That fair statement. a is

Yaron Kinar

adequacy to have insurance, business coming there booking relative like Okay. current, the portfolio And sense new returns you're the with on any the do you overall where in the is? of

Marc Grandisson

much Yes, changed so lost we a haven't pick. of

put perspective the rate Now, the that XXXX. lost talking things I place enough above well as about to in of we're to have that started want really cost believe middle the is taken since trend that, be, changes we

So, a of premature and ratio. early to any loss it's bit your make booking to changes

You look at on an basis. accident year

on action prior could all develop XXXX. the things history, historic, Plus, years to

movement to will make everything really see to years. premature to as Frankly, there. to X else they over it's tractions should lost speak. good X believe They So, comment if improve couple equal, of they lost being and some we the any quarters pick, improve and pick or next and ought take see we

Operator

Bhullar from comes question next our from JP Morgan. And Jimmy

is open. Your line

Jimmy Bhullar

the to had It ups on think than was what your or What's well. I And for as XXXX? of expected sort rate. question and income? it it make a just Is the tax lost had just of range 'XX the I what's driven that? likely you 'XX geographic improved lower First, expectation

François Morin

Well, points couple yes, a here. of

than had, guess, of final throughout we range I helped out that I what couple of was discrete the There earlier was tax bit a terms items rates. in a XXXX. a as out which in think, it played year, the publishing lower given

year, the was XX.X. So just without a it about rate look when -- of these we XX.X. tax we really which when was some adjustments is those, how This took back I and give range, think you I XXXX I

So, very close.

had some it to additional the brought that we XX.X year. down Ultimately, benefits for

mean, just be rate happen. don't I of know, tax losses to -- lot as they where a yes, rate very are much because before you know So, hard have to on tax is going a the it's the we precision

unfavorable was developments So or cetera. prior year et gap favorable whether there's a on

and expand, to very to saying we're year, for we a Last try we're want we're in looking early of a so, if think sure the make it's maybe that had say, lower, So at maybe be maybe, XXXX, XX were to again, maybe you comfortable XX. days the I mean update XXXX XX hopefully XX, early to potentially range, to be models. I'd in going bit probably but same that they enough range, the could you I to bit there's to that's

Jimmy Bhullar

goes very as your if of range? on on peers lot been And strong well. business, And overall a the will but the are at have And realized, sales? ROE. leadership MI those is this then business obviously, results that of a take margins the sort a of strong new your terms same block, new and for legacy double-digit you business type while look I your more ROE, for in ROE sort single-digit overall in towards Or of it business

François Morin

do the market. argue risk the solidly year, of so last later, the in I would no, actually for am more not the I the constraints Fannie good the has We're well still think us. still much of double-digit still for healthy on improved so choked almost healthy. even putting to returns, so out that and business, very I Freddie very bit with quality. And returns industry, now. very, to layering risk the the in It's very in half only

Jimmy Bhullar

your expectations? sort specifically midyear? comments renewals on And than they worse sort on better of then And of any any on the and X-X X-X the what lastly views renewals just in anything, upcoming

François Morin

a The in were industry. quarter have third rate broadly bit the better. continuation Fourth renewals you in X-X some quarter, might in was increase

based lined for quarter. I know X-X. for yes, up risk hold. the and first X-X what am It's prognosticating of low is what be, the will at supply We rate the future means so to don't market yet relative of quarter first it done better The clearly yet, better environment perception demand thing. a

sometimes, go So, if sometimes should think it on, place. over up doesn't goes all markets the and it's I it and

end clearly. the going up, X-X if where market, it's continues, X-X it's early momentum and -- clearly no, an to that be So, tell to it's will X-X too but improving

Operator

next Greenspan Our Wells Elyse from question from Fargo. comes

open. You line is

Elyse Greenspan

little on how year. of you We've observe business? heard written guess a being did what strong potentially Arch you first the about retrocessional that bit. more things is, retro on Is market just this My it I Has at pretty X-X in would question be that sign Or to on went the think the renewals? a X-X? of market come? some of X-X would better and for And X-X

François Morin

up I a that opportunistic. P&L. Yes, we wrote was say large cap our mean, very in They bit portion of little because you that I much went additional business see would retro in that

about that specifically means we X-Xs and don't opportunities. and just sure, be to advantage in some opportunities or to good us for that were So tells saw whether we But capital we at happy definite, in sticks space of the retro something some deploy whether X-X able know. that X-Xs, the take the

Elyse Greenspan

insurance somewhat impact give far that just the between due sense more the with an of in that you done. within and the the think earn guys expense assuming then, still the coming expense just from to there And you ratio about think accounting And XXXX? you elevated about, was us recent past of about some talking on have kind on can in book the being I have should that ratio the we quarter. have book, how insurance a you to in know if I'm fourth deals in of

François Morin

so effectively quarter it, I result the ratio online, a think call UK book. the the I bps the as was XXX expense regional of So, or on this was, my bringing was said in roughly remarks, in

a So, we're now year it. into

premium ratio the being the XXXX, earned being expense else we down. everything see coming out should So equal and

particular to worse, it think There's which I think an because the elevated same around give we're not ratio, at bit slightly to is it's the and was and twist about think be The improve you in get going think I loss going expense be pressures, to it's higher offsetting we I XXXX mean, ratio think only expense to don't should is some going directionally materially, has level. we market where is. be right for to a a more benefits but as Barbican bit it of XXXX. we it a new Lloyd ratio, should It's see benefits, going but

Elyse Greenspan

improvement? be to developing there to and if this a than it's the to relative this lot kind compared like, XXXXs, past social to of back think can just you Or any on past you inflation then to running does any guess and insurance we Is especially robust. Does market there for these And XXXX? your markets? positive every the market, XXXX. capital, more of market lastly it most been about comments kind early to of be history? a pricing And of And or the because obviously, market seem of Marc, pricing, a issue that when different think pretty may Is I be don't compared up have seems feel back similar you feels turns. this where if to no different

Marc Grandisson

terms in different and industry It's the the I combined for as mentioned of sure. us the health of ratio

have makes believe out. major But a So I very opportunity. pulling that players we capacity it unique do

players and we've it's capacity, definitely of market So them about some them. printed the being the even capacity talking specifically clearly larger lower. risk used and the in In effectively though of is overall one

is perceived as because and it more by people of as to was think went issues the claims, some tend up couple pricing that think I but of and plenty, companies Wilma field And and have what's Rita a think going larger risk. I of and on. were -- Katrina, still this this XXXX pay result a large, I after capital the looks would

we an socialization the and people cover uneasiness think sure of this a to to I pushes much uncertainty industry, make us is around can. as want more about eventuality creating to as of lot as charge we

would The bankruptcy proceeds. a it's So necessarily term. the is of reinsurance perceived not what market I say driven, that's heightened sort driven, higher, risk

new month, But guess that's So, those. of and things It's a summarize I it's go. every be. you it a live would as learn you what blend hard and of to experience few I

Operator

you. comes question Thank Suisse. our Credit next Mike And from from Zaremski

Your is open. line

Mike Zaremski

pricing one pricing? a to a versus expect MI, -- this Any dynamic similar color your First decline using yields question business decline competitors XXXX. spoke be there on on tighter expected premium might you morning given U.S. in new risk-based whether little in of in on

Marc Grandisson

the accelerated think lower I that a that's of sort refinancing, them and clearly the price refinancing people quarters the we just and the interest sense of that result our fourth are refinancing that's phenomenon risk premium and lower saw and points because is the as in quarter refinance. of better lot on makes for in much two A to less. because rate going last it the is rates you to

debt-to-service, actually doing knock or was By is everything the servicing lowering business, as the book them also well. has equal, DTI years a on the to on being else that LTV which a of it three put improves originally income two lower, And and right is on so, effect ago, risk. on the

So the also same that house -- -- environment, price there that some appreciation. was house, you and same people, but same also there's risk

two I So or you This not things said ago. a was three now as as all proposition get it years going is just risky on. these

really, the parts. it various really it pricing hard either hard to cancellations. doesn't it's pin is of we really evolved. in because itself should return change. want singles to moving very that or pricing to lend MI would And the So all how to be lower top-line key with does the all is I down indicate that's share But as guys, these you And see

returns the what and a be which And rate say that The just care phenomenon. that's focusing But is return somewhat not as healthy. on. actually is decrease one financed actually the price in is phenomenon will premium underlying is in we've we're could we what and and top-line a seen still things return characteristics what are about very

Mike Zaremski

Okay, that's, helpful. that's

kind a ratio, look been combined If has about mid-XXs. question last broad of couple kind the at the I reinsurance just the the years segments. Next,

but I have I not don't expected, levels you single ROE, into than me, And please digit a higher catastrophe think correct can materially that if right? been guess translates either. that's appear to

So, momentum future, segment? guess the simply And it's XX environments? I just to of the about reflective largely doesn't ROE competitive of profile thinking there's the hopefully kind of it is the just operating continued improve

Marc Grandisson

wrong, So, single-digit. not in it's first, you're

me let clear. So

I think is this much here. burden

think a I the -- XX portfolio we're and our is that three -- two years the on lot reinforced a, were one just then probably mix different over property a more years. cat to is a shift ago. We last not or a lot more XX

always there's or but our platform. write excess for lead us So, the in well in play we will higher motor would I know, pretty, returns to say And be ratio, in in part range want moving business. by to them where feel very you a would in definition the that are reinsurance the of well instance carbon Europe to that

based return I of every opportunities equity ratio. very that upon is decision our when the not And a constant terms what capital calling, to you So, we what group see combined realigning can various for think the what of you're this ratio that is of in combined reflection just of through reinsurance think a business. pushing ratio business not is that's just reflective in combined a pulling, and on terms you is your very, certain tell a within underwriting would like has of in expectation reinsurance I lines returns I seeing ambitious

Mike Zaremski

host assuming than it. portfolio some then that was less I there's wrong I your again that capital got peers. probably Okay, was versus

Marc Grandisson

gets think I'll went healthier, add able a market the last it's but growth about But to have and to that, think better, expand on showing reinsurance I more some the will see of on opportunities. platform If a the much really, our top I the don't that be that's line, of think bit the that, necessarily returns lot we'll I our number the which the just more down quite signs returns our on over one Mike, segment. get quickly years where all cycle it's premium thing management volumes and

Operator

question Meredith UBS. And from our comes next Brian from

line open. Your is

Brian Meredith

loss to about going an to impact First, ratio just to from you your underlying it just that in insurance maybe is add guess segment, how talked on insurance Will XXXX? going the ratio. to you achieving expense the impact And I it have combined below area prevent any underlying is that, Barbican in in XXX ratio?

François Morin

doesn't it's it in us brings Barbican It businesses But is, is that the that in Well, It also Barbican the -- the needle, has big with of a trace one capacity we nice it. some is picture lot move us lot really key makes like. thing has capital. actually third-party London. is the relevant be deploying a more of aware that should of you gives

that our ribs. stick So doesn't to

In benefits ratio, of yes, combined the the terms and cetera. fees have some et we'll on

we're certainly to some Barbican between net on whether picture, business, big re-underwriting But, going XX-XX $XXX roughly split insurance and shut going do the along down wrote way. reinsurance, last basis a about that to lines, million some of premium we're year in XXXX,

of plays So, out Barbican big in ratio. XXXX segment combined you'll once a on the these how are to its in that, on you not mean, going do be to math for factor quickly a it, hopefully bit I appreciate own, is

Marc Grandisson

realistically, the to lead need plenty. upon XX-ish On are come see will our and we through opportunity see to on right François us note, we as return if it's that the to point, in to opportunities that growing is Brian, on And that combined which anything to equity, presented focus and bring now insurance to into as segments. our us seizing that it no we going ability our it, will to think ratio the current I

Brian Meredith

it We be is ratio kind come it's underlying returns. of So to those dropping the that may it what whatever combined but saying and XXXX I is or opportunities the below XXXX for in getting to you guess here could you're not XXX in? see

Marc Grandisson

right. That's

starting you is of being renewed stuff look, the "rate rates new year in still If last middle of lot a move the really Brian, and environment".

So, write earn to we to you have have the business it. first,

The same deeds and a XXXX That's are. I to way long you're where bad see good reflected. takes exactly while why it may time XX, you're right, get reflected, for a the add. So, to being exactly takes we deeds

Brian Meredith

the I'm other reinsurance just of be the significant see property premium coming lot a is amount Marc, know it certain and good price your lines And much pricing curious. you where quota write political a of How then I seeing type benefit is business. share businesses businesses, reinsurance, you increase the E&S, from might a then X through? areas you're those subject

Marc Grandisson

the can is on kind the our They anywhere I group do reinsurance go thing they beautiful company. think about anything, do of anything. anywhere, friends that go

have are able they are E&S, see the deals casualty access to property, general, whatever. and in So, that

So We've a still we're XX We've and as London but we reinsurance, of there, have points a smaller things, selling Zurich, the Bermuda. half not U.S. lot it. for scheme lot we the years. and in plus. a of billion around have been still We're in of and a grand written

we're There's there. So, are in whatsoever. opportunities able no grow, to if a issue growth

Brian Meredith

But your premium books. what are about the that already in subject basis

seeing you of growth kind are So there?

Marc Grandisson

on the I of keep asking premium, try. keeps you clearly. at virtue no we keep obviously, for are If have the healthy, think positive the for more question. into not XXXX, it's answer and as they Nice give by rates at the we increasing guidance, point, don't used know. level I'm right rate. a not sure And the what it you XXXX, if improvement will

I'm to right give trying issue. So them the

Brian Meredith

is underlying rate. obviously growth I'm seeing just, price that And I more improved and in right. get write situation, then get too the to at it's trying is I business, obviously think what I premium the

your seeing you're would and like potentially could reinsurance your just that margins? impact own in business have on Just

Marc Grandisson

is the Of up is We're anecdotal. you're to taking course, now in loss of be year pricing the full share. seems speed. yes, The newer just Even through seeing phenomenon starting. excess right. It

So encouraging. that's also

have We're in least a at and point, your we excess not traditional, huge at liability loss professional So of lines you're lines. may some, right. a general

We're You're right. benefiting and Yes, quarter from company. participants are. our we share

Operator

And Meyer Shields our from from next comes question KBW.

line Your open. is

Meyer Shields

couple to off I a had questions of with. start small

Bermuda U.S. versus any that's on XXXX versus plans the First, to amount to of are mortgage paper there retained insurance change in XXXX? ceded

François Morin

implications, better a in this flexibility. as issue. domicile, we point because mean, to you more don't just as gives BTAX there's as But trip to all about know, as No plans much point. the at I we tax know, try came us it's and capital it's we want offshore you at this have

So, at anything. change to this point, no plans

Meyer Shields

perfect. Okay,

you capital seeing I the a And the I ended that Barbican to the wondering, up if in talked other past, potential pipeline some deployment in was give Second, could as opportunities opportunities? about UK. and sense what know in you're us and you've at now

François Morin

we're less. bit a seeing I think

to think I busy more of book at people are stuff trying and improve business. their looking their

of there's think inward I more a really an focus.

that M&A, about. talked have all we most we or of transactions I think, see them been the see of we believe

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Meyer Shields

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Marc Grandisson

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Operator

Thank you.

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Ryan Tunis

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Marc Grandisson

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Ryan Tunis

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Marc Grandisson

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Operator

lines. to for from the now like no any further Marc our showing to And phone back over conference Grandisson remarks. turn I would closing I questions am

Marc Grandisson

you, next Valentine's Day. Happy you to weekend, Happy Thank a you if Valentine's everyone. chance. have a Talk it Make quarter.

Operator

thank Ladies participating today's the conference. and for you This in program. gentlemen, conclude does

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Arch Capital (ACGL) 12 Feb 202019 Q4 Earnings call transcript