The Boston Beer Company, Inc. (SAM) 24 Apr 192019 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

Jim Koch	Founder & Chairman
Dave Burwick	Chief Executive Officer
Frank Smalla	Chief Financial Officer
Caroline Levy	Macquarie Capital
Judy Hong	Goldman Sachs
Laurent Grandet	Guggenheim
Kevin Grundy	Jefferies

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Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Boston Beer Company First Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. the The to Boston turn and Koch, now of Chairman Beer would conference Jim over Founder I Company. Thank you.

You may begin.

Jim Koch

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Dave Burwick

afternoon, Thanks, Jim. everyone. Good

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Frank provide will details. financial the Now,

Frank Smalla

you, Dave. and afternoon, Thank Jim everyone. Good

quarter, by and volume significantly income net revenue the quarter per resulted six XX.X% increase XXXX. XXXX of and or acceleration and year to approximately Twisted share to increase in levels the level net Company support shipments significantly compared in XX, reported compared per an our was lower four of a in gross the March the current barrels, for operating as of levels the march increased at Truly increased in The support increase last weeks high than offset timing and we wholesale XXXX. quarter share, to compared $X.XX three approximately summer. the the million reflects during first X,XXX,XXX $XX.X of Tea on and diluted expects the quarter requirements the For normal over on growth the Company Net of brands terms to distributor of return by hand, anticipated demand. The from later XX, when depletions of XXXX a of inventory on hand in March of of income $X.XX weeks The diluted partially first to driven first the of ended year. year. plant averaged to increases of weeks XXXX, expenses revenue, inventory Shipment was more hand first to the margins. Shipments in quarter forecast believes higher approximately on as based significantly inventory appropriate inventory and XX, higher at rate to distributor an growth

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expenses quarter and of $X million increases primarily in trade benefits salaries compared promotional $X.X costs the higher and higher costs. increased primarily and benefits expenses and salaries XXXX, XXXX, selling to to distributors to by due General the First of to and increased and from quarter increased investments due first in production, due first advertising, volumes. to million media quarter increased administrative consulting and

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its period additional first the XXXX and of March Class Company repurchase for the not A did stock. XXXX, any shares common April the XX, XX, quarter During or

million expenditure We remaining $XX.X buyback Board of have limit the $XXX million the on set by approximately Directors. share

open call questions. for now will the We up

Operator

Macquarie Our from you question. with with Caroline first line Please proceed of comes the Instructions] [Operator Levy question Group.

Caroline Levy

Hi, good much. afternoon. Thank you so

to Just super about Like how grow particular, in in could come we continue understand And you how high, shipments shipments of X% year? the you that X% Why my you would keep pricing much talk out the can pulling spacing? the quarter trying quarter profitability second think the first helpful first mentioned mixed much second three expect the should didn't weeks to That's in you of the price quarter you - for and do the to in inventories as also if will then the the would realization, the to you question. be still of end guess do year? expect price I down have the to four none a range you by quarter. about to full inventories

Frank Smalla

this Caroline, Frank. this is

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profit I think guidance remains unchanged. the

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Now higher this we knew significantly and truly. year expected the demand our was because of constraints

So, that was the first question.

pricing. The to second question related I believe was

again margin the profit have impact coming and which slightly you is that is slightly not that pricing What see not revenue impact the the on line a mix increased lower, line but shipments, if a mix of you in the impact on compare the that revenue see see that on as the revenue the we So you we to cans lower is a line, on have necessarily that that line, but see rate, a it's line. through. percentage literally revenue that mix you

Caroline Levy

much. so you Thank

party the loaded. margin going something I if front of inventory to the that As and then on a be follow-up gross build, is third that the impact is may again on end

more you probably and back the the number So interested quarter second two, know but this building to by you've end, number same purely extent. then capacity inventory some got one, won't quarter, I additions, be

half gross I assume margin. back be So that better your for would

Frank Smalla

certain I projecting co-packers. project half go our you that the look the based the on we to on produce. look we how at in have was much back with external margin the that the So a margin And to have way so said February final The gross and we will to typically improve. think I call, very if will quarterly also we're projected, earnings This at percentage margin, volume we assumed truly depend the margins. will how much definitely

the will really Now, volume co-packers increase the the higher goes and margin. average will the to gross But impact margin incremental increase that the volume, base as the year, portion overall But the throughout that that's margin. increase. will we it's driving

Caroline Levy

you. Thank

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Dave Burwick

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Caroline Levy

much. so Thanks

Operator

Markets. of comes question Please Sharma with next the Our Amit BMO question. proceed Capital from the line with

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Jim Koch

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Unidentified Analyst

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Dave Burwick

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Operator

from question Sachs. of Our proceed comes Judy question. line next with Hong your with Goldman Please

Judy Hong

Thank you. everyone. Hi,

first on Angry is me So for I guess question Orchard.

down improvement So and about the brand the you balance for of talked do you in year. Dave the expect QX, being

bit see or of was that place And think the is tell you you improvement the Cider progresses? So plan the some timing really reasons unfiltered do also the success this marketing day as more color year the about the key that for and of the that even you have end crisp base in kind improve of us of unfiltered a year? launch you can and just

Dave Burwick

Hey Okay. Judy.

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we off in big a it's it. Rosé. so continue now expected of It really in coming that first quarter. we're invest the And lot happened overlap But to

product, different looking believe about markets, Unfiltered other in will. So in way, Right June when we years it markets. out at this but we that great a be August times, year we we there It's feel grow very expect in different good that. start the in comes some now, done. markets will in Rosé

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us and toward that as think the looking year a now different I behind So the big trajectory progresses. overlap we're is

Judy Hong

I my why wondering perfect scanner know terms data seems too like April if trends And other depletion I'm actually if at really there's of year-to-date to diverged any looks some the Okay. that kind retail if been it of softer? build But a you question causing actually been the data of can there's has I your never I a just then in or look trend, accelerated, depletion and it's inventory divergence reasons, was offer into which from and guess accelerate, of is some anything insight anything scan as April even measure.

Dave Burwick

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have trends the been So been said over quarter pretty we've the consistent pretty have the accelerated April. - - into I first quarter but over

Jim Koch

to Nielsen. Judy, Nielsen. there real some disconnect weird know, as be, And can Yeah, and you just closer of kind IRI our depletions from see our seems results, are and between you significant to

correct you unusual know, in strongest Hard anything do have you And, retailer you don't getting or a depletions growth is, know, that, looks Tea a a that rate. Seltzer, we're the is, correct in total accelerated We what's accelerating. have takeaway We consumer like lot April. which to build You know, of any and read bigger our - driving have in closer date just IRI. have and like see

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Judy Hong

that Right, sense. makes

back Okay. My relating year just full guess going last up to you're question I and of picking is kind to, the Truly depletion guidance.

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Jim Koch

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Dave Burwick

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Judy Hong

Got it.

Okay, thank you so much.

Operator

proceed of Our question. [Operator Instructions] Grandet Guggenheim. of next with question your comes line Laurent to the Please

Laurent Grandet

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Dave Burwick

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Laurent Grandet

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Dave Burwick

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Laurent Grandet

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Dave Burwick

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and Customers channel it wholesalers you looking think you are, where in. varies on all I you're at. what are based are

Jim Koch

losing losing grew number somebody Adams craft other be the to to going year, to continues that the we're something like category really brewers. last With Sam We're the we're I to who the X,XXX lead not And share craft wholesalers, in beer. but Adams. Sam mean, grew is a brewers replace or X% of XX%. XX%

with that important category stuff they to largest with continues is the last a to pretty leader consumers the because volume, them but be that that going make category sell they're because to versus they losing an of majority which is want the SKU vast rate shelf known on familiar last than less know are fragmentation going selling brand diminished as to to put year that is it's is a fragmentation. Sam sure did to So craft the you of Adams the year

Laurent Grandet

from team And SKUs, our those lower in I is up their think? with rest clean trend sending of shelf to you mean

Jim Koch

where portfolios doing trends at are thing. think the going. retailers their are that is same and We that Wholesalers improving looking

any through of well do will we like motion. Seltzer is is of of the Adams that emerge term and and in very, from kind And a say think slow quality selling growth long a of eventually would It's I space brands slow craft I happening Sam beneficiary somewhere from they've be virtually going of the the Hard coming the it's be may supported and But get from strong, trend to some in craft is that this consolidation going lower shakeout. But that SKUs. we're we space believe means got process. believe or that eventually all categories, consolidation to that. high

Laurent Grandet

Thank Thank you very guys. much, you.

Jim Koch

you. Thank

Operator

with Jefferies. question your Grundy next Kevin one Please question. from proceed Our with comes of

Kevin Grundy

everyone. Thanks. Good evening,

Dave Burwick

Kevin. Hey,

Kevin Grundy

back for Seltzer. I wanted and to come a Dave. Hard Jim It's question to

mentioned the company down in point Seltzer. some growth able we But Hard the you will respect at come what rates on looks turn Adams the do is that of to with in are stratosphere Sam Seltzer Seltzer the down that Jim, agree So improvement the is the growth, going materially landing and and this beer outstanding. rates come the in in to your of absence the can your brand, for depending challenges able like part absence which to some to portfolio may being to they double-digit growth of credit out around of come of

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Jim Koch

don't following Hard we as this see the path. Yeah, Soda

driven repeat hard For much several Coney reasons, one trial by not that and and we was Island root beer. had

calories. we of there a was sugar through wasn't repeat. So with was it also loaded went trends lot And consumer ran it loaded because It of with that. trial, much kind against and

non-alcoholic fewer powerful very category health to alcoholic information become very when more wellness, and Seltzer - the riding drinkable. prominent, went of less in So much in that calories, sugar, strong trend more also a beverages, starting Hard and is away.

trends it looking encouraged the to have by tripling. see expression categories that crazy as I we an growth. very this, fact almost much beverages. despite also come at almost consumer of powerful that We're So, alcoholic we're mean,

as volume We're growth they're absolutely certain the they will So base. come coming rates down bigger down. on that. yes, come down, of a But

down from incremental well than to the of cases. rates, still first as lot may triples a makes that's going your growth and it whatever new if category fast with it So on not continue the offset in as to craft volume XX% why volume will which of part is drop again because more the here beer, it question. That's rate goes growth the the

see were is winter, don't slow surprised February, how when thought, through it's but we having down. is continued this how to up high, We category that we little strong didn't. lags. a going we know It March January, is, So it's frankly it

been continued the by whole category. have we the continued two leaders dominance the who brand category strength and started the surprised pretty much the by So of category, of

Kevin Grundy

time? also at up some Jim, me. the for to from follow-ups see quick Two pricing you rumblings and beer particularly taking been has helpful. pricing which the given for way? relative potentially question that you in on that for Do to be that's disadvantage some tack losses of it any the pricing spirits, general. right U.S. We've itself pricing categories may not like with continue here the risk to volume distributors Okay, respect picked the beer industry a in other you the that alcohol Do see in some rational category category.

Jim Koch

determine slightly what can I pricing. We comfortable Well, has doing. competitors as or we're say predict years. that I the inflation it, can't our with very over last been below are XX rule

in our So, down. comes real dollars, pricing

think that's we up. do trade healthy. And So we see continued

continuing premiumization real out for there to on before. haven't go terms mix the and any of come the we come believe continuing new appealing categories real and to it And others So item, beers business up Boston that down but can with in is pricing seen and new trade and consumer up that interesting shift. as individual due overall can brewers consumers innovations continue like Beer

commoditization. the prevents that So

Kevin Grundy

come it, the it. make of or just you're kind speak innovation of just hard a hitting, push some having absence that's helpful, marketing I you little just to of to Sam in on money the throwing sort Can and bit volume marketing to has it Okay, Adams advertising the broadly back given sort the with issues, good potentially to could of last maybe bad come one issues behind behind One Jim. levels volume that sort is given that case after guess it overtime, brand. one, the brand of in?

me. So any and the you. on it Thank for That's comments advertising marketing Adams brand? behind Sam

Jim Koch

Yep.

kind five years we've level broadly, roughly of the very rapidly last or the maintained very very, four same Just support. over of

hang per it wife has is a case up calling. on basis so So my

right. All Sorry.

and our a respect, probably is on I feeling our high very iconic gone overall scores. awareness, is with high guess per a So case unique, basis, Sam spending brand very high very quality Adams is up

much pretty are and support that are level pure touch there players have to something And high enough ups fortunate be that. esteem to the like like we're beer are brands, And one have within those the on And that replace that. I resources downs, of just you rare. don't so because iconic through continues of brands do the and those you earlier, said craft few category as to that,

that's overall still are is growing. Our on only one they've rest strong over where is bet, leg is category healthy, and on there ours a of four. And craft business one the and got the big advantage

Kevin Grundy

Good that. for you Thank luck. good. very Okay,

Operator

comes your question question. with Macquarie line up with next from Group. Our stay Caroline Levy Please

Caroline Levy

Thanks capacity, that be how making guess having are see just into few years gross the an I outlook this to further you next yours understand to how as look of year question. for be try additional be I might do you the you in-house could margin from able going and your levels to Because margin time what and little much forward? the build own a want out truly taking upside of now, to keep is, gross co-packers the margins? to question or to there pay much

Jim Koch

is. That's anticipate being a we the rate strong continued a as good Frankly, growth as didn't them. there's it And couple question. of

more go year. it So It's we and that thought four last months peaks we June, July will then will a of the the in product, co-packing doing seasonal then down, August. we're

in have will why don't comfortably can all guess, enough the couple to of that happens, demands And believe we us we there we've going as get even The pack. us, Hard you majority get. peak. variety it got out As We projected this those inventory the for that so for between months are co-packers of with will our help us meet capacity that's through Seltzer things is the have to vast a margin.

temps automated in Pennsylvania now. hundreds literally significant variety variety labor do large packing things to on literally a in out of brewery we're that direct of day every these among of We at the May, a take semi-hand are pack. will packing of piece But operation. pack of our bringing other We have temps that the hundreds that line

cetera. that. big and the piece including the a simmers, et ugly automating can we the it's purchased And we new for have line fillers, equipment of are So

in next And But in-house. will will that will capability will this we the a but lot the not bringing that's that get have production of go in. that So it to peak of of or the peak us that year. in-house give will late be too bring for

another we is much - as the just But we production growth have still we're line. hope contract my because again. next year, doing underestimated new if the rate volume will we've can Now down, slows

anticipate in-house much bringing more So next year.

Caroline Levy

Thank brands the of or a as value because Truly say, of That's Twisted think super time, just, your be beer be about the valuable used looking you or helpful. than do brand, you Tea but FMBs, the if do think that you higher history you. beer do to hops of And think we then or that brands today? things being should value a still are true more at than differently

Jim Koch

speculative question. that's very philosophical certainly Caroline, almost

the some is Just all brands do back and out quite of I that turns it enduring. look have beer been can

could Lemonade, but My and that forth, me stable, don't question. are more think Smirnoff tells of But Tea, really Hard gut I Lima so You and the brands know. it's Mike's ups the [even good downs. Raiders Twisted a beer

forward looking research next on I'm to So this. your note

Caroline Levy

Thanks then. out by figured all it so have much. I'll

Jim Koch

you. Thank

Operator

question your of with Please comes line [indiscernible] next proceed UBS. from Our with question.

Unidentified Analyst

confidence what the Hey, old gives entering here the rational? given players space, for thanks that question. number I remains in kind guess territory pricing wealthy of category but we're I large of in know on Seltzer, the uncharted sort the of you

Jim Koch

may and think pricing. for of they're that paying up potentially consumer question that room be money I And so for higher - that downward some the I'm sure behind downward there putting is good there But much pressure. not a know not price will you be it's a quality. it, everybody's because Well, sensitive, lot

it price trumps consumer doesn't a do two don't day, of of good. The but I'll flavor So something the to doesn't use didn't day, not the was ingredients the the equipment at going make base taste they're bucks as is taste end have pay the because the they to end less they expensive At not of good because as not case quality of trade-off the their if that. clean I believe. as same or

Dave Burwick

brand recognize people on put say that, a I'll flavor And some was and add price. that

two because Jim execution and mentioned Claw before, visible there truly a White the I the beginning, because tremendous as most think brands certainly out market. the getting in and you're and from

know new for category. doesn't consumer think I the quite

So pretty the category is where low. this

If a you think seen your senior likely go the first I time, at where that before I try drinking, so the more the friends the have, more recognize top to of you're you've - that consumer for plays into think brands you're you pyramid. to as something also two friends

Unidentified Analyst

you. Thank helpful. That's it. Got

Operator

next question question. Goldman Hong Please your from a line Judy Sachs. proceed Our with comes of with

Judy Hong

inventory is, questions Thank two have my to XXX,XXX I back you're going impact, down. follow-up. weeks that the roughly I just from so come equates take you taking barrels three down six it to kind levels for inventory One of if weeks, planning will need to say, housekeeping think actually. to to

just your Frank, clarify So, I earlier want to comments.

in a So second quarter, it's third some the the more portion of the roughly XXX in coming out but little quarter. bit

inventory And much or pretty three weeks that level? kind normalized, of so you're at by of of end three third a half quarter, and

Frank Smalla

That's directionally is correct, that correct. is

but majority start out in the will will in it So QX. QX, come

Judy Hong

much then that million, was freight the selling going Okay. how advertising? on X.X advertising promo up the versus Frank, And just expenses and

Frank Smalla

all freight the There but essentially advertising volume. to really weight it's thirds slight two volume. So higher was is freight, is a all the of is it one benefit and related third

Judy Hong

it. Got

Okay. you. Thank

Operator

back end to Jim of I Ladies question-and-answer Koch remarks. and to over gentlemen, And closing we like turn Mr. the session. reached the our have for now call would

Jim Koch

afternoon you this in joining three speak everybody Cheers. months. for Thank and another we'll us

Operator

teleconference. the concludes This

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