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Mike Madden: | | Basket in-store is kind of, depending on the season, between $35 and $40. |
(Jason): | | Wow. It’s a big jump. |
| | All right. We will let somebody else take it. Thanks a lot. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thank you. |
Operator: | | Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Magee with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please go ahead. |
David Magee: | | Thank you and good morning, guys. Congrats on the great quarter. And Robert, I hope we have at least one more quarter out of you next year. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thanks, David. We appreciate the kind words. |
David Magee: | | The — you mentioned that the promotional environment, I guess the sort of progression as you would expect right now. Is that — did I hear that correctly from the. |
Robert Alderson: | | Yeah. I think, you know, so far we’ve seen good results. We’re still pre-Black-Friday. And I think the season has yet to unfold. |
| | But there’s been a bit of commentary from the whole — from the general retail sector indicating an expectation of great promotion. We’ve seen a little bit of it but not enough yet to say hey that’s clearly a big trend. |
| | I think the JCPenney factor is somewhat of an unknown. And there’ll be some high — there’ll be some great promotions online. There’s no question about that. But so far our business seems to indicate that we’re holding well to plan. |
David Magee: | | The conversion rate right now and the transaction size, how close are those metrics to their historical high in the past? Do we have more upside there next year or does next year does traffic become the primary comp driver? |
Robert Alderson: | | Well I think obviously traffic will continue to be a focus because we want to see that return to sequentially positive results. And we think there’s upside there. And I believe there’s upside on the conversion and the other metrics. |
| | I think our average unit retail has done rather nicely and our average ticket’s done rather nicely. And you have to be a little bit careful about what you wish for on items per transaction depending on what you’re trying to do at the time. But I think there’s upside across the board. |
David Magee: | | Thank you. And lastly do you have the ability to sell the items on the website directly from the store inventory? |
Mike Madden: | | Not yet, David. But that is a — that’s an initiative that we are in the midst of. |
David Magee: | | Is that likely. |
Mike Madden: | | What we did. |
David Magee: | | (Unintelligible). |
Mike Madden: | | For 2014 what we are doing now that is an improvement is we’re showing more SKUs that are in — available in-store only on the site. We’ve also added a feature where you can check the inventory of those items online and determine if it’s in quantity in your home store that you designate as a shopper for us so big improvements there. We are pushing forward toward a shared inventory mix in the near future. |
David Magee: | | And once you have that capability I guess you’ll be able to sell clearance merchandise online perhaps more efficiently than maybe in the past. |
Mike Madden: | | That would be an opportunity for us. Yes. |
David Magee: | | Yeah. |
Mike Madden: | | A good. |
David Magee: | | Thank you, guys, and good luck this season. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thanks, David. |
Operator: | | Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Black with Avondale Partners. Please go ahead. |
Jeff Black: | | Yeah. Congrats on a nice quarter, guys. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thanks, Jeff. |
Jeff Black: | | When you look at the gross margin — we’re just curious — what really drove the improvement? Was this better in-stocks in core from what you’ve been working on or was it better sell-throughs on some of the fashion product? |
| | And looking at where we are on merchandise margin given your guidance, you know, how far is there to go there, you know, the next few years? And I guess in ’14 what do you see as the biggest opportunities on gross margin? Thanks. |
Robert Alderson: | | Well let me start with the last and say that I don’t expect us to sequentially deliver 200 or 300 basis points over the next four or five quarters. But we do expect and are working toward reasonable incremental gains. And we think that is — has been driven in some respects by a better-executed core item strategy. And we mentioned or called out specifically the great performance of seasonal in the third and early fourth quarter which is typically higher-margin product and has limited quantity and there’s some sense of urgency involved with it. |
| | So those are all positive things. But I think you also have to look across the board at your core merchandise offering. And, you know, with the possible exception of a little bit of dip that we’ve had in framed art in the last couple of quarters the rest of the merchandise mix has performed very well. And I think controlled inventories, very controlled promotions that are very focused and provide a very nice offering to the customer as well as moving some things that we need to move along with that good product have contributed to an overall better mark — a better margin. |
| | So I think it’s a very holistic effort on the merchandising side. And better information is certainly a part of it. |
| | But you have to have the execution piece in the store. And I think we have gained a lot of traction with organizing our stores much better and to making them more plausible to be shopped by the customer and more focused. And we have a big visual effort that’s been going on now for the last year to coordinate merchandise, visual and execution in the stores. |
| | So all that really has to work together to deliver the kind of sell-through that you want. And when you get the sell-through you get the margin. |
Mike Madden: | | And Jeff, just to add to that, historically speaking that part of your question, with our guidance this year I think that would still imply that we’re about 100 basis points short of where we had been about three years ago on the merchandise margin. So that would suggest still some improvement to go from there with better tools, you know, in-house today than we had. So we think there’s some upside to continue. |
Jeff Black: | | And then just a clarification, on the traffic did you guys — is it implied that the traffic is better in the test markets or the markets where you’re using the advertising test? |
Mike Madden: | | It is. We are measuring all metrics in those markets against the control group. And traffic is one of those metrics. And that would — that shows that we are ahead of the control group by a good margin on traffic. |
| | Primarily, you know, we want to look at ultimately just the sales because conversion comes into play with some of the advertising, with the print. But traffic is up to answer your question. Yes. |
Jeff Black: | | Okay, fair enough. Good luck, guys. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thank you. |
Operator: | | Our next question comes from the line of Neely Tamminga with Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead. |
Neely Tamminga: | | Great. Good morning and congratulations, you guys, on a well-executed quarter. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thank you. |
Neely Tamminga: | | Robert, I echo David’s comments. This is — this can’t be our last call so you’re going to show up on the next call. It’s official. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thank you. You’re very kind. |
Neely Tamminga: | | All right. So here’s a variety of questions I have for you. On the shared inventory initiative, Mike, if you could talk us through some of the key metrics that we’re interested in that would be really helpful. |
| | I mean it’s great that you guys are moving in that direction. Is this a First Half ’14 or a Second Half ’14 initiative? And will you go by category or kind of like site-wide? That’s the first part of my question. |
| | And then secondly related to that if you could talk to maybe how much of the sales online have you identified as being held back because of stock outs so what really is kind of the topline drive by fulfilling some of these orders would be helpful. I think of situations like even your wall décor right now. |
| | You know, you go to your new arrivals, you’re largely stocked out of wall décor, you know, on that landing page. You know? How much of this has been kind of been holding actually your overall top line back is just a perspective we’d love to have. |
| | And related too is your SKUs per store. So you’ve got SKUs in your stores. How much — how many of those SKUs are actually shown on your website and how many can you actually purchase on your website? |
| | So I’ll just pause there and see if you could guide us a little bit on the shared initiative. |
Mike Madden: | | All right. We’ll do the best I can on those. |
| | First of all the — what was the first part of your question again, shared initiative? |
Neely Tamminga: | | The timing. |
Mike Madden: | | Yes. We are — we’re working on that as we speak. The — this — we need some technology to be added to our, you know, order management type technology that we’re going to leverage to be able to get to that. That’s a next year project. It’s unclear as to in what phases that will roll out. |
| | And you mentioned kind of starting with certain categories. That may very well be a direction we head down because that could get it in potentially sooner. |
| | But it’s a next year initiative. I don’t want to say which quarter yet without, you know, we’re still working through the work plan on that project. But it’s a top priority in ecommerce next year. |
| | Your — the stock outs component, I think that is really one of the things we’re trying to address in going to a shared inventory. I don’t think overall we have a terrible problem with stock outs. I think when we have an item that starts to sell really well, as we do throughout our business, you know, we have lead times and it’s - sometimes it’s hard to fill those back in. So I think you see some of that online just like you see it in the stores. But if we’re able to leverage the store inventory to fulfill that order and allow the customer to get it however they want it, that’s going to reduce those stock outs quite a bit. |
| | As far as the store SKUs that are available for sale online, we now have a — over 4,000 SKUs online because we’ve added about 1,300, as I mentioned earlier, that are only available in-store. So we are now showing a — almost a full assortment, I would say, online, both what’s being sold as web-exclusive items through the website and what is also being sold in the stores. So we have a good mix of that. |
| | So we’re over 4,000 if you include the in-store portion. And we’ve added 1,300 of those to the site lately. |
| | And another thing we’re doing next year just to bolt onto those few things that you did mention is to go to — in connection with this order management technology to go to some third parties and have drop-ship capability so we’re not having to fulfill the orders ourselves all the time. |
Neely Tamminga: | | Is that. |
Robert Alderson: | | I would also mention that I think we recognize the power of leveraging that store inventory for the web and as Mike said, top priority. But we’re also attacking it in different ways too. |
| | I mean we’re going to try to — we’re testing some rapid response replenishment that might be available if we can make this work and work with our system. So we see the need and appreciate the urgency. And I promise you we’re on it. |
Neely Tamminga: | | Thank you, Robert and Mike for that. Just one more follow-up. Could you in theory launch buy online, pick up in stores since you’ve got the local store inventory already available as a bridge before you get to that? Or is that not — do you need that incremental tech for the order management in order to do it? |
Robert Alderson: | | I think to do it effectively we would need to install order management. I don’t think we’re at a point where we can say hey you can order it but pick it up in-store. |
| | Now we do have in-store pickup of online items that are, you know, that represent an opportunity where you’re too bulky to ship or for some reason shipping’s not feasible. And we’re leveraging that opportunity really well. But on the other side of that I don’t think we can short-circuit that yet. |
Mike Madden: | | Neely, one important thing that, you know, in how we’re thinking about it is we’ve got feedback on our site. We’ve launched and you can see on the site where you can drop in your feedback. |
| | And we’re going to react a lot to what the customer is really asking for. I mean one of the things, you know, they want to be able to decide how it’s delivered. They want to be able to pick up an item in the store to save on the shipping. They want to use different varieties of payment. |
| | And we’re getting that feedback constantly. And we’re trying to pull that together into some initiatives that will facilitate a better experience for them. |
Neely Tamminga: | | Okay, great. And then just. |
Woman: | | (Unintelligible). |
Neely Tamminga: | | Two briefer questions. One would be: what have your trends — like how much are corporate sales relative to your total sales trends? And has that been an up-trending category? And is that something that you guys are thinking about possibly expanding? Does it make sense? |
| | And then secondly is just a really financially sort of question. I don’t think you covered the (unintelligible) specifically. But you obviously took an increase in bonus accrual for Q3 because trends are better relative to last year. Just wondering if you basically accounted for the trends continuing or what the guidance implies for Q4 also in that bonus accrual or will we also see an additional bonus accrual in Q4 cause you kind of take the second half all in Q3? Thanks. |
Mike Madden: | | Yeah. On the bonus accrual, you know, the main reason for the callout is cause last year it was — there was not one. So we’ve got kind of a comparison issue that we’re calling out. |
| | That would really flow — the accrual kind of flows in according to the sales contribution, the revenue contribution, by quarter. And that is in our — that’s embedded in our plan all the time. |
| | And what we try to do is gauge the payout relative to the guidance that we give. So it should match up with sales in terms of contribution. And it’s always trying to keep pace with what the current guidance is or forecast is for the company. |
| | And your other question. |
Neely Tamminga: | | And it. |
Mike Madden: | | About corporate sales. |
Robert Alderson: | | Are you talking about large quantity sales like to a retail chain. |
Neely Tamminga: | | Yeah, or like to an interior designer, you know, market. |
Man: | | Yeah. |
Neely Tamminga: | | Who obviously uses, you know, Kirkland’s as a resource. I’m just wondering if that’s been a source of potential upside for you guys of late too with the housing market kind of stabilizing and coming back. Thanks. |
Mike Madden: | | We think there’s some upside there. It’s a couple percent of sales. And, you know, we have people who — in a group that actively works that market. |
| | But that’s been a little hard for us to gain really big traction in. And I don’t — honestly I don’t know what the future holds for that. |
| | I think we’ll continue to offer the opportunity. And we — it’s probably Priority 6 or 7 in a list of things that we’re trying to do now because the web initiatives along with the improvements that we’re trying to do in our merchandising systems, I think all those things are so hugely important to the overall that we just haven’t gotten to that one as a big project yet. |
Neely Tamminga: | | No shortage of things in the job jar, that’s for sure. And that’s what I love about you guys. |
| | All right. So thanks so much and best wishes for holiday. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thanks. You too. |
Operator: | | As a final reminder, push 1 4 to ask a question. |
| | Our next question comes from the line of Joan Storms with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead. |
Joan Storms: | | Hi. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on a great quarter. |
Robert Alderson: | | Thank you. |
Joan Storms: | | Okay. Mike, if you could just quickly go over sort of the modules that you, you know, since you implemented the merchandising, the foundation system last year, what have you turned on, modulized year to date? What’s left for this year and what comes sort of the beginning of 2015? And then with that what kind of like, you know, potentially the — what sort of tools does that bring to the buying team? |
Mike Madden: | | Okay. Yes. Last year we implemented the foundation of the Oracle system in the third quarter. And this year was all what we call internally our Phase 2 which was really addressing the plan — the merchandise planning side of the capabilities of the overall suite of products in Oracle. |
| | That included merchandise financial planning which is now in place. And we are starting to work with that and started that in the third quarter. |
Joan Storms: | | Okay. |
Mike Madden: | | We had previously gone live with a new allocation module and a new replenishment module. So kind of connecting that with the core strategy that we’ve been talking about in merchandising, you can imagine, you know, you’ve got now core items that, you know, are being set up as a replenishable in the system using the new technology so allocation, replenishment, financial planning in place, location planning in place. |
| | What we have yet to implement and are working on that for the balance of the year is assortment planning and item planning which is really the beginning part of the feed up through the entire plan. So that’s really going to give the buyers and the planners that clear path from — to build a bottoms up plan to meet the financial plan targets for the company. |
| | There’s a lot of benefit in the things we’ve already rolled in because a lot of what we did in those areas of merchandise planning were very manual and arduous. But we are happy to say we’re going to be going into next year with all those tools in place so as we plan our seasons we’re going to be much better equipped to do so. |
Joan Storms: | | Okay, excellent. And I apologize if this was already asked. I had to step out for one second. On the whole traffic issue, so that — you had mentioned that, in the beginning of the call, the transactions were slightly positive and so — and that historically, you know, the conversion was (unintelligible) then traffic would follow. So how are you thinking about traffic for the fourth quarter and heading into 2015? |
Mike Madden: | | Well we — I think you summed it up pretty well. I mean that’s what we’ve said that, you know, we were probably - we were happy to see for the first part of the year the ticket be up and be consistently up. The margin to go along with that had been a positive for us particularly in Q2 and Q3 and then the conversion rate being positive. And those indicators typically lead to better foot traffic down the road. |
| | We were pleased to see the decline in traffic go down. We were showing 6% to 7% declines in the first half. And we just reported a 3% decline in the third quarter. |
| | And I would say it’s fair to say that traffic got better as the quarter progressed. So we entered the fourth quarter with a little bit better trend. So hopefully that continues. |
| | And I don’t know if I’d say what ‘15’s going to look like. But, you know, if we keep performing on those other metrics I would feel good about it absent some macro effect that I can’t know what it is yet so. |
Joan Storms: | | Okay great. Thank you very much. |
Operator: | | Our next question comes from the line of (Anthony Lesposinski) with (unintelligible). Please go ahead. |