| In my own case, I did put some additional money into the company; but I chose to do it directly into the company rather than, you know, trading shares on the open market. So, although there have not been a lot of insider purchases disclosed as you can see from our disclosures, at least both Kevin and I have put real money into the company in the relatively recent past. And although I can’t give you any commitments for anybody else, the issue of the legal restrictions as well as how is money most effectively used are all factors in that kind of a decision. I definitely understand the scrut of what you’re getting at though and I think it’s a very reasonable question. |
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Ronald Artale: | And, Steve, let me also add to what Bob just mentioned and that is that the officers and other senior people to this company -- 10% of their compensation comes in the form of purchases of LSBC shares. |
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Steven Osborn: | Right, every quarter. |
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Ronald Artale: | Right. So there’s, you know -- there’s between that and the loans that have been made by Kevin and Bob. I mean, there is serious skin in this game. |
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Steven Osborn: | Right. I -- and I understand that and that’s part of the reason why I’ve hung around and put more money in the company and, you know, when Kevin converted that 630,000 shares at $0.95, that’s a statement. And then he comes back in and loans the company an additional amount of money. That’s a further statement. But anyway, the regular insiders of the company -- people that are in management that would be required to file a Form 4 by the government, you know, that’s what the investing public is looking at. And again, I guess my question -- is there anything precluding you guys from doing that? I’m -- the only thing I can ascertain from Bob’s response is that there is. |
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Ronald Artale: | Well for -- at any time in time… |
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Kevin Ryan: | Knowledge of negotiations, Steve. |
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Ronald Artale: | If it’s material, as you know, we would be precluded from purchasing … |
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Steven Osborn: | Right. |
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Kevin Ryan: | That past the blackout period -- that’s the single biggest block I see in terms of, as you well know, from your experience in negotiations -- ebb and flow -- and one could be seriously criticized for buying on information during that period of time; so … |
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Steven Osborn: | Well, I mimicked your last move at $0.95 and so far, the information doesn’t look so hot so far. |
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Kevin Ryan: | Right. Right. |
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Robert Erwin: | We feel your pain. |
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Steven Osborn: | That was my last question, guys. I think that would win some serious, you know, I don’t know if it’d win serious buying, but at least I think it would boost our share price if that was an option for you guys to do. It would be, you know, a show of strength, etcetera, in the market. But anyway, that’s my last question and I appreciate your time, and certainly look forward to the next call and hopefully some good news. |
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Kevin Ryan: | Thanks, Steve. Thanks for your support. |
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Operator: | Your next question is a follow-up question from Brian Marshall with molecularfarming.com. |
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Brian Marshall: | Hi, guys. Just a little follow-up to the aprotinin … does anybody know what Prodigene are doing or do you know -- do you still view them as any sort of serious rival? |
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Daniel Tusé: | We don’t view them as a serious rival. We have had some questions and discussions about IP in terms of their making aprotinin in corn. It, you know, it was decided that we do not infringe and they do not infringe us either. We have both freedom to operate with our -- from the manufacturing base, but we are not aware of where they’re pushing their technology. We have not ascertained that they’re actually developing or selling product, but you know, you should call them. I don’t have any information that would tell me otherwise. |
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| But it looks like we are the only group that can, as of today, manufacture and deliver clinical quantities and quality aprotinin in any scale that is market relevant. And outside of Bayer, and with the material produced from cow lung, Trasylol, everybody else that’s up there appears to be a niche player. That’s why when I mentioned that some very large generic companies are looking at us, is that they don’t want to follow the route of getting lung material and then transitioning into a recombinant. They want to go directly into a recombinant source that they do not have to then worry about scale-up and the huge investments in capital and/or switching over to a different manufacturing system. They think that the technology that we offer, as Bob mentioned, is linearly scalable whether you start outdoors and go outdoors or keep it all indoors or keep it all outdoors -- |