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Monty Bennett: | If a seller would, due to the price point that’s above where we’re trading now, then yes, we’d look at it. That seems to be what would have to happen. |
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Participant 3: | Okay, fair enough and then, I guess, maybe I’ll ask the flip side of it which is you’ve talked about the targeted leverage at prime and, you know, maybe that’s more of a fluid moving target, right, because, you know, again, to the extent there’s something that is accretive out there, would you take the leverage up temporarily and that kind of might get things—everything kind of rolling, right? |
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Monty Bennett: | Well, when we look at accretive transactions, we always look at it on a leverage neutral basis because—and when we talk about the accretion, we talk about total shareholder return accretion five years from now on a leveraged neutral basis. So, I just want to make that clear, so everyone on the phone, when we say accretion that’s what we mean. Because some people talk about accretion just for next year or accretion just to FF&O, or one thing or another. |
| By leveraging something up, it’s much easier to get something accretive. In fact, you can get anything accretive with enough leverage - and I know that’s not what you’re suggesting - but, we’re pretty well set on getting that debt to EBITDA down to our target level from the time frame we mentioned, which was at five or below over, by two years after we spun out and, while there might be, in our path downwards, a little blip up here or there, we’re pretty reluctant to do anything else because we told our shareholders what we’re going to do and that’s what we want to do. If we did something else, then all those that relied on that information would feel shortshrifted and we don’t want to do that. |
| But, we think we can grow this platform and keep, you know, all these other objectives in line. Again, it’s not unusual for a stock to back up a little bit after an IPO or spin out, so we’re doing our best just to remain patient as more and more investors tend to learn about the platform and do their homework, and see—view the difference in private market value versus where the stock is trading right now. |
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Participant 3: | Okay, understood and then just finally from me; as we look out to next year, just trying to get a sense as to how much renovation activity you guys think there might be at this point and, you know, basically thinking maybe there’s a little bit more lift and less displacement next year relative to this year, and it seems like this year there’s less displacement relative to last year. |
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Jeremy Welter: | Yes. This is Jeremy. I think that we’re going to have a little bit less renovation activity in the Trust portfolio. We’ve done a good job of working our way through Highland and have completed most of the Highland portfolio through the summer of this year, so that’ll be in really good shape going forward and we’ll be able to drive additional RevPAR growth in that portfolio. |
| We do have a quarter of Boston that we’re going to have to finish up in the fourth quarter, bu, once we’re done with that, Highland is in really good shape. |
| As it relates to Prime, there’s not a lot of renovation activity that we have. I think we have disclosed a few renovations in the fourth quarter, both of which should not be that impactful to the guests and to revenues, so hopefully we’ll be able to minimize displacement in the Prime portfolio, as well. |
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Participant 3: | Okay, very good. Thanks, then. |
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Participant 4: | Hi, guys. Good morning. I think it was interesting that you said earlier that you feel the DC market as stabilizing. You guys have pretty strong results there in the first quarter, everything considered with blocked-in Inauguration and potential weather impacts, but the Marriott Marquis opening—I think it may have opened even last week, so what gives you confidence the market’s stabilizing? Thanks. |
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Monty Bennett: | Sure. I’ll come in on it and then, Jeremy, you might jump in as well, if you’d like. I think a lot of it has to do with the government, and where the government has been and where it’s going. We just hear and see a lot less chatter and talk about cutting government spending and when that spending occurred—I’m sorry, those spending cuts occurred, a large chunk of that came from travel, a disproportionate amount, and it really affected the DC market. I think at one point we saw government business down 30% year-over-year in that market, so it was a big drop. We’re just not hearing that kind of talk. We’re not seeing that kind of activity, so we’re seeing government business stabilizing and maybe even starting to increase. So, despite the Marriott coming online, the impact of government business has a big offsetting effect. |
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Jeremy Welter: | That’s right and, when you look at it from the comparative basis, the impact of sequestration, we really felt it beginning of May in 2013 and so on a year-over-year comparison in May of 2014 there should be less impact from sequestration. But, we are seeing a resume of government travel and spend in our DC asset, as well as we actually are starting to see some good group business, as well. In the first quarter for Trust, we were able to grow our group revenues in the quarter by close to 4%, so we’re very happy with the way that we’re responding within the tough market conditions within DC. In the first quarter—eight of our 10 Trust DC hotels gained market share in the first quarter. |
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Participant 4: | Great, thanks, and then on Ashford Prime, the Sofitel Chicago generated negative EBITDA in the first quarter. You mentioned weather and CUYs had a negative impact, but could you just help us think about the seasonality and maybe the run rate earnings of that property? Thanks. |
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