Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements (Details) $ in Millions | 12 Months Ended | | |
Sep. 30, 2017USD ($)Years | Sep. 30, 2016USD ($) | Sep. 30, 2015USD ($) |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | $ 8,536 | $ 7,293 | |
Derivative liabilities | 10 | 16 | |
Net payables | 168 | 129 | |
Payables for collateral on loaned securities | $ 369 | 3 | |
Voting percentage required to desolve partnership in private equity | 80.00% | | |
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | $ 2,139 | 2,019 | |
Derivative liabilities | 2 | 2 | |
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 3,207 | 2,362 | |
Derivative liabilities | 6 | 14 | |
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 90 | 97 | $ 91 |
Derivative liabilities | 2 | 0 | |
Equity securities | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,771 | 1,847 | |
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,770 | 1,846 | |
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1 | 1 | |
Preferred securities | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 14 | 20 | |
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 3 | 3 | |
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 11 | 17 | |
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Corporate debt securities | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,100 | 1,145 | |
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,088 | 1,135 | |
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 12 | 10 | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 325 | 181 | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 317 | 165 | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 8 | 16 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 193 | 117 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 193 | 117 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Asset-backed securities | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 146 | 118 | |
Asset-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Asset-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 109 | 87 | |
Asset-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 37 | 31 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 19 | 16 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 17 | 16 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 2 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 331 | 332 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 307 | 299 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 24 | 33 | |
Commercial mortgage-backed securities | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 68 | 44 | |
Commercial mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Commercial mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 62 | 38 | |
Commercial mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 6 | 6 | |
Equity security commingled funds | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,134 | 682 | |
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt security commingled funds | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 709 | 653 | |
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Commodity commingled funds | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 224 | 302 | |
Commodity commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Commodity commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Commodity commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Blended security commingled funds | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | | 225 | |
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Institutional mutual funds | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 155 | 10 | |
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 155 | 10 | |
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 916 | 621 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 41 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 916 | 580 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Certificates of deposit | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 6 | 16 | |
Certificates of deposit | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Certificates of deposit | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 6 | 16 | |
Certificates of deposit | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 500 | 385 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private real estate funds measured at net asset value | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 533 | 568 | |
Private real estate funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private real estate funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private real estate funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 369 | 3 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 369 | 3 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Futures | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 18 | | |
Derivative liabilities | 3 | 2 | |
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 18 | | |
Derivative liabilities | 2 | 2 | |
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | | |
Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | | |
Derivative liabilities | 1 | 0 | |
Purchased options | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 1 | | |
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | | |
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 1 | | |
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | | |
Interest Rate Swap | | | |
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Derivative liabilities | | 3 | |
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Derivative liabilities | | 0 | |
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 3 | |
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Derivative liabilities | | 0 | |
Foreign currency forward | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 4 | 5 | |
Derivative liabilities | 6 | 9 | |
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 4 | 5 | |
Derivative liabilities | 6 | 9 | |
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Written options | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 1 | |
Derivative liabilities | | 1 | |
Written options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Derivative liabilities | | 0 | |
Written options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 1 | |
Derivative liabilities | | 1 | |
Written options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Derivative liabilities | | 0 | |
Credit default swaps | | | |
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Derivative liabilities | 1 | 1 | |
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Derivative liabilities | 0 | 1 | |
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Derivative liabilities | $ 1 | $ 0 | |
Minimum | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Number of years partnerships in private equity generally continue | Years | 10 | | |
Number of one year extensions for partnerships in private equity | Years | 2 | | |
Maximum | | | |
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Number of years partnerships in private equity generally continue | Years | 12 | | |
Number of one year extensions for partnerships in private equity | Years | 3 | | |