Benefit Plans Fair Value Measurements (Details) $ in Millions | 12 Months Ended | | |
Sep. 30, 2024 USD ($) Years | Sep. 30, 2023 USD ($) | Oct. 01, 2019 USD ($) |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | $ 8,959 | $ 8,605 | |
Derivative liabilities | 4 | 128 | |
Net payables | 47 | 167 | |
Payables for collateral on loaned securities | $ 235 | 181 | |
Voting percentage required to desolve partnership in private equity | 80% | | |
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | $ 1,396 | 1,748 | |
Derivative liabilities | 1 | 6 | |
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 2,161 | 2,167 | |
Derivative liabilities | 3 | 122 | |
Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 65 | 60 | $ 62 |
Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Equity securities | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 670 | 732 | |
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 668 | 731 | |
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Equity securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 2 | 1 | |
Preferred securities | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 3 | 4 | |
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 2 | 4 | |
Preferred securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 1 | 0 | |
Corporate debt securities | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,122 | 1,109 | |
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,121 | 1,107 | |
Corporate debt securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1 | 2 | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 572 | | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 511 | 561 | |
Residential mortgage-backed securities | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 61 | 55 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 543 | 602 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 543 | 602 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by U.S. Treasury and other U.S. government agencies | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 23 | 21 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 23 | 21 | |
Debt securities issued by state/local governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 19 | 12 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 19 | 10 | |
Debt securities issued by foreign governments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 2 | |
Equity security commingled funds | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 245 | 360 | |
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Equity security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt security commingled funds | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,236 | 544 | |
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Debt security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Blended security commingled funds | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 101 | |
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Blended security commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Institutional mutual funds | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 180 | 363 | |
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 180 | 363 | |
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Institutional mutual funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 249 | 315 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 5 | 51 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 244 | 264 | |
Cash equivalents and other short-term investments | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private Credit [Member] | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,126 | 694 | |
Private Credit [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private Credit [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private Credit [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,580 | 1,769 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private equity funds measured at net asset value | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private real estate funds | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 1,150 | 1,162 | |
Private real estate funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
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Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private real estate funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Private real estate funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 235 | 181 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 235 | 181 | |
Securities lending commingled funds | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Futures | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 1 | |
Derivative liabilities | 1 | 5 | |
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 1 | |
Derivative liabilities | 1 | 5 | |
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Futures | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Purchased options | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 6 | 17 | |
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 6 | 17 | |
Purchased options | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | 0 | 0 | |
Interest Rate Swap | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | 3 | 26 | |
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | 0 | 0 | |
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | 3 | 26 | |
Interest Rate Swap | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | $ 0 | 0 | |
Foreign currency forward | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 2 | |
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 2 | |
Foreign currency forward | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Fair value of gross plan assets | | 0 | |
Credit default swaps | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 1 | |
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 1 | |
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 0 | |
Credit default swaps | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 0 | |
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member] | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 96 | |
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 1 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 0 | |
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | 96 | |
Securities Sold under Agreements to Repurchase [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Derivative liabilities | | $ 0 | |
Minimum | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Number of years partnerships in private equity generally continue | Years | 10 | | |
Number of one year extensions for partnerships in private equity | Years | 2 | | |
Maximum | | | |
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure | | | |
Number of years partnerships in private equity generally continue | Years | 14 | | |
Number of one year extensions for partnerships in private equity | Years | 3 | | |