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Exhibit 99.3
Filed by CenturyTel, Inc.
Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933 and
Deemed filed under Rule 14a-12 of the Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: CenturyTel, Inc., File #1-7784
CENTURYTEL / EMBARQ
Moderator: Tony Davis October 27, 2008 10:00 a.m. EST
Operator: | | Good morning ladies and gentleman thank you for standing by. Welcome to |
| | today’s conference call and Webcast to discuss the merger of CenturyTel and |
| | EMBARQ. |
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| | At this time all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the |
| | floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. If you would |
| | like to ask a question at that time, please press star one on your touch tone |
| | phone. |
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| | If at any point your question has been answered, you may remove yourself |
| | from the queue by pressing the pound key. If you should require operator |
| | assistance please press start zero. As a reminder this conference is being |
| | recorded. |
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| | It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mr. Tony Davis, Vice President, |
| | Investor Relations of CenturyTel. Please go ahead sir. |
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Tony Davis: | | Thank you Chris. Good morning everyone and welcome to our conference |
| | call today to discuss the combination of CenturyTel and EMBARQ which was |
| | announced earlier today. As you also probably notice each company also |
| | issued third quarter 2008 earnings releases this morning as well. |
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| | The main purpose of today’s call is to discuss the announced transaction. |
| | However, we will also cover third quarter results briefly on this call. We will |
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| | be using a slide presentation during the call when discussing the merger and |
| | this presentation is available both on CenturyTel’s and EMBARQ’s Web site. |
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| | At the conclusion of our prepared remarks this morning we will open the call |
| | for Q&A regarding the transaction. During today’s call references will be |
| | made to certain non GAAP financial measures. Each company has reconciled |
| | those measures to GAAP figures in their respective earnings release. And |
| | those reconciliations are available on each company’s web site, at |
| | www.CenturyTel.com and www.EMBARQ.com. |
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| | Your hosts for today’s call are Glen Post, Chairman and Chief Executive |
| | Officer of CenturyTel and Tom Gerke Chief Executive also of EMBARQ. |
| | Joining them on our call today are Stewart Ewing, CenturyTel’s Executive |
| | Vice President, and Chief Financial Officer, and Gene Betts EMBARQ’s |
| | Chief Financial Officer. |
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| | Certain forward looking statements may be made today during the call |
| | particularly as they pertain to guidance for fourth quarter and full year 2008. |
| | Selected information regarding 2008 and the effects of this transaction |
| | described herein and other outlooks in our businesses. |
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| | Please review our Safe Harbor language found in our press releases and in our |
| | SEC filings which describe factors that could cause our actual results to differ |
| | materially from those projected by us in these forward looking statements. |
| | With that at this time I’ll turn the call over to Glen Post. Glen? |
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Glen Post: | | Thank you Tony, good morning everyone and thank you for joining us on |
| | such short notice this morning. |
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| | This is an exciting day for us and I’m looking forward to taking you through |
| | the (inaudible) bits of the CenturyTel EMBARQ combination. But as Tony |
| | mentioned first Stewart and Gene are going to make a few remarks regarding |
| | the third quarter 2008 results, released earlier today by CenturyTel and |
| | EMBARQ. Stewart? |
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Stewart Ewing: | | Thank you Glen, good morning everyone. As a reminder all of my comments |
| | this morning regarding CenturyTel’s actual results for third quarter 2008. |
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| | And guidance for the remainder of 2008 exclude the non-recurring items |
| | detailed on the financial schedules of the company in the press release. And |
| | any non-recurring items that may occur in the fourth quarter. |
| | |
| | Also since I will only cover a few highlights this morning. I encourage you to |
| | read our press release and our 10-Q when it is filed. As usual you can call |
| | Tony Davis with any follow up questions. |
| | |
| | CenturyTel achieved solid financial results for the third quarter. Operating |
| | revenues and diluted earnings per share for the third quarter were at or near |
| | the top of our prior guidance for the quarter. |
| | |
| | Operating revenues were $650.1 million or about eight percent lower than the |
| | $708.3 million in third quarter a year ago. Primarily due to the recognition of |
| | $42.2 million of prior (inaudible) revenue settlements in third quarter 2007. |
| | Excluding those settlements operating revenues declined less than two and a |
| | half percent. |
| | |
| | Revenue increases of approximately $18 million were primarily driven by |
| | continued growth in our high speed internet customer base. Along with |
| | modest revenue growth from our video service offerings. |
| | |
| | However, excluding the 2007 revenue settlements mentioned earlier. These |
| | increases will more than offset the revenue declines of approximately $34 |
| | million. Primarily attributable to lower access revenues and access line |
| | losses. |
| | |
| | Operating expenses decreased $12.6 million or 2.6 percent from $481.9 |
| | million in third quarter 2007 to $469. Three million in third quarter 2008. |
| | Primarily as a result of lower personnel related costs and lower depreciation |
| | expense that more than offset costs associated with growth in our high speed |
| | internet customer base. |
| | |
| | For third quarter 2008 we generated an operating cash flow margin of 47 ½ |
| | percent, compared to a normalized 48.2 percent in third quarter 2007. Diluted |
| | earnings per share excluding non-recurring items was 82 cents for the quarter, |
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| | or one cent below the top end of our previous guidance and first call |
| | consensus of 83 cents per share. |
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| | However I do want to point out that CenturyTel’s earnings from its interest in |
| | an unconsolidated wireless partnership were approximately $4 million lower |
| | for third quarter than we had anticipated due to 2007 audit adjustments |
| | recorded by the partnership’s general partner late in the third quarter. |
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| | Excluding these 2007 audit adjustments diluted earnings per share for the |
| | third quarter would have been approximately two and a half cents higher. We |
| | generated over $140.5 million in free cash flow during the quarter and ended |
| | the quarter with $259 million of cash and cash equivalents. |
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| | During the quarter we returned approximately $273.3 million to shareholders |
| | through share repurchases and dividends and we ended the quarter with $246 |
| | million remaining under our $750 million share repurchase authorization. |
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| | We continued to see solid demand for broadband services, as we added nearly |
| | 20,600 high speed internet customers during the quarter. And business |
| | demand for higher bandwidth Ethernet services remained strong. |
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| | Our high speed internet penetration of our enabled lines was 35 percent and |
| | our broadband enablement increased to nearly 88 percent of total access lines |
| | as of the end of the quarter. |
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| | Now turning to CenturyTel’s guidance for fourth quarter and full year 2008. |
| | For fourth quarter 2008 we anticipate total revenues of $635 million to $645 |
| | million and diluted earnings per share of 78 cents to 83 cents. |
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| | And we expect full year 2008 diluted earnings per share to be in the range of |
| | $3.28 cents to $3.33 cents. Fourth quarter and full year diluted earnings per |
| | share guidance are based on shares outstanding as of September 30th2008. |
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| | With that I will turn the call over to Gene. Gene? |
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Gene Betts: | | Thanks Stewart and good morning everyone. EMBARQ demonstrated the |
| | stability of our cash flow in the third quarter despite continued head wind |
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| | from the economy. Like the last few quarters the economic slowdown is |
| | evident in our revenue numbers but we continue to diligently manage |
| | expenses and capital. |
| | |
| | As a result we are again raising our cash flow outlook for the year. In total |
| | third quarter revenue declined 4.3 percent from last year to $1.53 billion. One |
| | factor affecting this comparison is the decision we made earlier this year to |
| | begin winding down our wireless business. |
| | |
| | Naturally revenue has been hurt by that decision but wireless dilution has |
| | improved substantially. In the third quarter dilution declined to just $1 |
| | million compared to $21 million one year ago. |
| | |
| | Most of the top line pressure we’re experiencing is in the voice revenue |
| | category, which is, which in the third quarter was impacted by the loss of |
| | 169,000 access lines. Compared to last year’s third quarter absolute line |
| | losses increased by 39,000. Roughly consistent with the year-over-year |
| | comparisons in the first two quarters of the year. |
| | |
| | The primary issue continues to be reduced new orders, rather than |
| | disconnects. As previously indicated the decline in gross adds has been |
| | accompanied by a reduction in the number of new service addresses. Which |
| | we will subsequently refer to as NSA as an acronym, that we have been |
| | required to bill. This has resulted in significantly lower CapEx and |
| | contributed to the ongoing stability of our cash flow. |
| | |
| | Moving from voice to data, revenues surpassed $200 million for the first time |
| | in the third quarter growing 3.6 percent from the prior year. In wholesale |
| | we’re seeing a bit slower growth in wireless back (hold) but business data |
| | continues to grow at a relatively steady rate. |
| | |
| | High speed internet revenue meanwhile grew 11 percent year-over-year to |
| | $138 million in the quarter. Net subscriber additions totaled 24,000 consistent |
| | with the number we reported in the second quarter but below the prior year |
| | level. |
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| | Similar to access lines the economy is having an impact on our HSI subscriber |
| | metrics. Gross adds have been most affected but we also saw an increase in |
| | economic disconnects year-over-year. |
| | |
| | Finally our video results were very strong this quarter. In fact the 45,000 net |
| | adds we posed this quarter was almost twice as many as we’ve added in any |
| | other quarter in our history. As a result our video base grew to 284,000 at the |
| | end of the period. Which means almost eight percent of our customers now |
| | have a bundle that includes EMBARQ home phone and Dish Network TV |
| | services. |
| | |
| | Despite the decline in the revenue we generated solid recurring income again |
| | this quarter. In addition the completion of our $500 million share repurchase |
| | program contributed to a significant year-over-year increase in our earnings |
| | per share. |
| | |
| | Operating income was $353 million this quarter, which was negatively |
| | impacted by $66 million in charges related to a reduction in our workforce. |
| | Of that total $49 million is reflected in cost of service and $17 million in |
| | SG&A. |
| | |
| | Going forward we expect this action to result in annual savings of |
| | approximately $70 million per year. We won’t be up to the full quarterly run |
| | rate of those savings in the fourth quarter. But will see the full effect next |
| | year. |
| | |
| | Year-to-date operating income totaled $1.22 billion approximately seven |
| | percent from $1.13 billion in the first three quarters of ’07. Operating margin |
| | is also much improved from the prior year level increasing by more than 200 |
| | basis points for the year to date period. |
| | |
| | We completed the $500 million stock buyback program we announced in |
| | January. Repurchasing $2.2 million shares for $100 million during this |
| | quarter. In total we were able to repurchase $11.8 million shares under the |
| | program which represents more than seven and a half percent of total shares |
| | outstanding at the beginning of ’08. |
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| | Although diluted EPS was impacted by non-recurring charges in both the |
| | current and prior year period. The buyback helped drive an increase of 10 |
| | percent to $1.11 cents year-to-date diluted EPS has increased 21 percent year- |
| | over-year to a total of $3.88 cents. |
| | |
| | 3Q CapEx was $170 million and for the year-to-date it was $526 million |
| | representing just 12.2 percent of Telecom Revenue. In total we now expect |
| | CapEx to be less than $710 million down from our prior outlook of $740 |
| | million. |
| | |
| | Within that total we expect NSA requirements to be more than $100 million |
| | below the 2007 level and more than $150 million below 2006. Lower capital |
| | requirements combined with solid reoccurring profitability resulted in cash |
| | flow before dividends of $242 million in 3Q and total of $802 million over the |
| | first three quarters of the year. These amounts represent significant |
| | improvements from 2007 levels. |
| | |
| | In closing, our update our full year expectations starting with access lines |
| | we've changed our outlook slightly in light of recent trends. In the fourth |
| | quarter we believe absolute line losses will continue to be somewhat higher |
| | than prior year levels similar to what we've seen over the first three quarters in |
| | 2008. |
| | |
| | That could be the case in the early part of 2009 as well but over time we |
| | expect improvement in both cyclical and secular trends. Given higher line |
| | losses we are lowering our revenue outlook for 2008 as well. We now expect |
| | revenue for the telecommunications segment to be in the $5.6 to $5.70 billion |
| | range. |
| | |
| | I know that earlier we improved our outlook for capital expenditures to less |
| | than $710 million at most that would be 12.5 percent of Telecom revenue |
| | based on our new outlook. Finally, if given the reduction capital spending in |
| | our own growing expense trends we are raising the expectation for cash flow |
| | before dividends to a range of $1.01 to $1.03 billion. |
| | |
| | It is important to note those numbers include the $66 million in charges we |
| | occurred this quarter without those special charges we would expect cash flow |
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| | to $1.05 to $1.07 billion this year. With that I will turn the call over to Glen, |
| | so he can tell you more about the transaction we announced today. |
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Glen Post: | | Thank you Gene, if you're viewing the slide presentation that are available both |
| | (inaudible) Web sites, I will begin on slide four. Let me talk about today's |
| | strategic announcement, let me begin by saying that combining Century Tel |
| | and EMBARQ great strategic sense, now this combination brings together two |
| | leading communication companies with a customer focus industry leading |
| | capabilities, it reinforces both companies strategic plans, diversifies our |
| | revenues, and provides us with expanded networks, expertise, and financial |
| | resources to build long term shareholder value. |
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| | As a combined company we will be even more competitive but significantly |
| | increased scale. Now the new companies combined operating presence in 33 |
| | states with approximately $8 million access lines, $2 million (bald) bank |
| | customers, and 400,000 video subscribers. Additionally we expect to help pro |
| | bono revenues in access of $8.8 billion and EBITDA $4.2 billion, as I said |
| | September 30th, 2008 including anticipated synergies on a full run rate basis. |
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| | Post closing we also expect to maintain an investment, gain credit rating, |
| | given the capacity to invest in the business. At the same time reward our |
| | shareholders. We expect to maintain our dividend payout ratio of about 50 |
| | percent and to continue returning substantial capital to shareholders over time. |
|
| | We expect to generate synergies of about $400 million annually within the |
| | first three years of operation. We’ll discuss the synergy in a bit more detail |
| | later on. But the key drivers of these synergies include the reduction of |
| | corporate overhead, the elimination of duplicate functions, enhanced revenue |
| | opportunities and increased operational efficiencies through the adoption of |
| | best practices and capabilities, from each of our companies. |
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| | We will have an experienced leadership team comprised of management from |
| | both companies, with great depth in industry and a track record of success. |
| | With Bill Owens, non-executive Chairman, I will continue to serve as Chief |
| | Executive Officer, Tom Gerke will be Executive Vice Chairman, Karen |
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| | Puckett Chief Operating Officer and Stewart Ewing Chief Financial Officer. |
| | We believe that working together we can ensure a really smooth integration. |
| | |
| | If you turn to slide five this slide outlines the terms of the transaction. |
| | EMBARQ shareholders will receive a fixed exchange ratio of 1.37 |
| | CenturyTel shares. For each share of EMBARQ common stock (inaudible). |
| | |
| | Based on CenturyTel’s closing stock price last Friday, EMBARQ |
| | shareholders will receive $40.42 cents of CenturyTel stock for each |
| | EMBARQ share. This represents the multiple of 3.9 times the last 12 months |
| | EBITDA after run rate synergies. And 4.6 times the last 12 months free cash |
| | flow on the same basis. |
| | |
| | The transaction has an enterprise value of approximately $11.6 billion which |
| | includes a (inaudible) of approximately $5.8 billion of EMBARQ debt. We |
| | have obtained a commitment to refinance EMBARQ’s bank debt, and really at |
| | the end of the day we expect to have pro former leverage of 2.1 times last 12 |
| | months EBITDA including run rate synergies. |
| | |
| | Upon closing of the transaction CenturyTel shareholders will own |
| | approximately 34 percent EMBARQ shareholders will own approximately 66 |
| | percent of the combined company. The transaction which we expect to close |
| | in the second quarter of 2009 is subject to approval of CenturyTel and |
| | EMBARQ shareholders, as well as Federal and certain state regulators. |
| | |
| | Turning to slide six, you can see the highly complementary assets and |
| | geographic coverage of the two companies. CenturyTel’s footprint is shown |
| | in yellow and EMBARQ’s footprint is shown in red. The red lines represent |
| | CenturyTel’s fiber network that’s highly complementary to a large portion of |
| | the CenturyTel and EMBARQ footprints. |
| | |
| | The combined company will be even more competitive with significantly |
| | increased scale to facilitate economically attractive deployment of growth |
| | products and services including expanded IPTV, broadband and wireless data |
| | offers. |
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| | Slide seven puts into context the pro forma metrics I mentioned earlier. You |
| | will see from this slide that we will be one of the leading communications |
| | companies with more than 2.5 times the access lines. And trailing 12 months |
| | of revenue the midsized peer group shown here. And more than double the |
| | broadband customers in trading 12 months of EBITDA for those same peers. |
| | So as shown here this transaction greatly strengthens our competitive position |
| | throughout the country. |
| | |
| | Slide eight shows some of the key combined metrics of our two companies |
| | before we factor in the synergies. I won’t go through each one but as I |
| | mentioned earlier we believe that this combination gives us greater scale and |
| | financial strength to drive the business forward. And deliver long term |
| | shareholder value. |
| | |
| | Slide nine provides a breakdown of the primary sources of our synergies. So |
| | you can see that we expect to achieve approximately three fourth of the |
| | synergies from operating call savings. The rest coming from CapEx and other |
| | synergies. The acquisition and integration cost for this combination are |
| | estimated to be approximately $275 million which we expect incur over an |
| | estimated three year period. |
| | |
| | Slide ten, outlines several governance matters. First the combined company’s |
| | single leadership team who will exist of executives from both CenturyTel and |
| | EMBARQ. As said I will continue to serve as Chief Executive Officer, Tom |
| | Gerke will be Executive Vice Chairman, Karen Puckett and Stewart Ewing of |
| | CenturyTel will continue serving as Chief Operating Officer and Chief |
| | Financial Officer respectively. |
| | |
| | Bill Owens currently non executive Chairman of the EMBARQ board of |
| | directors will be the non Executive Chairman of the combined company and |
| | Harvey Perry will continue as non Executive Vice President. Non Executive |
| | Vice Chairman excuse me. |
| | |
| | Having worked in the same industry together for many years we know each |
| | other well and have tremendous respect for the work that each company has |
| | done. The key to our success has been tremendous efforts of our employees |
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| | around the country. We believe this combination will result in enhanced |
| | career opportunities for many employees from both CenturyTel and |
| | EMBARQ. |
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| | We will forward, look forward to leveraging the talents and strengths of both |
| | of our teams to drive continued growth and success for all of our stakeholders. |
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| | The combined company’s board of directors will consist of fifteen members |
| | eight of whom will come from the CenturyTel board and seven members from |
| | the current EMBARQ board. The corporate headquarters will remain in |
| | Munroe Louisiana and we will also maintain a significant presence in |
| | Overland Park Kansas. |
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| | While making the key decisions about how we will combine the operations of |
| | CenturyTel and EMBARQ have not yet been made. We do expect a smooth |
| | transition. In the coming weeks we will appoint a transition team made up of |
| | representatives of both companies. And in addition the name of the combined |
| | company will be determined prior to the close of the transaction. |
|
| | I’d now like to turn the call over to Tom to say a few words, Tom? |
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Tom Gerke: | | Thanks Glen, I certainly share your substantial enthusiasm for this transition |
| | and echo your many favorable comments. This transaction will benefit our |
| | customers and our shareholders. Glen together we’ll be much stronger than |
| | operating alone. |
|
| | Our board and management team have been evaluating the best course of |
| | action to deliver value to the EMBARQ shareholders. And our board is |
| | determined that combining with CenturyTel achieves that goal. |
|
| | This transaction offers EMBARQ shareholders a premium for their shares |
| | today and at the same time allows them to participate in what we believe will |
| | be significant growth potential from this combination. We are uniting two |
| | very similar corporate cultures that share a strong commitment to our |
| | customers, our employees and our communities, we look forward to working |
| | together to continue providing outstanding service, and enhanced offerings to |
| | our customers. |
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| | The combination will possess excellent network assets, numerous areas of |
| | strength that complement each other and will drive efficiencies, improve |
| | product offerings and increased customer satisfaction. And it will deliver a |
| | management team committed to driving efficiencies and all the while staying |
| | focused on customer satisfaction and customer services and products. |
|
| | Glen I look forward to participating on the leadership team to help collectively |
| | drive increased profitability and growth in the years ahead. With that I’ll turn |
| | it back to you. |
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Glen Post: | | Thank you Tom. We’re going to look at slide eleven now. In summary we |
| | are very excited about this combination to increase the company of impressive |
| | scale on a combined basis we expect to have approximately eight million |
| | access lines, two million broadband customers and 400,000 video subscribers. |
| | We expect the combined company to generate approximately $8.8 billion in |
| | revenue and $3.8 billion of EBITDA. |
|
| | But this transaction is not just about getting bigger. It’s about increasing |
| | shareholder value. We expect to realize substantial synergies, both through |
| | increased operational efficiencies and enhanced revenue opportunities. The |
| | transaction is expected to be free cash flow per share created the first full year |
| | after closing. |
|
| | The combined company will have pro forma leverage of approximately 2.1 |
| | times EBITDA, including synergies on full run rate basis. This strong capital |
| | structure should provide us the financial flexibility to fund our operational |
| | needs going forward, as well as return substantial capital to our shareholders |
| | through both dividends and opportunistic share repurchases. |
|
| | In addition to its financial strength, the combined company will be |
| | strategically and competitively well positioned. Both of our companies have |
| | excellent net worth, so we believe we can leverage to drive increased revenues |
| | to roll out new products, both to our large consumer base and well as |
| | EMBARQ's diverse mix of business and enterprise customers. (Inaudible) |
| | integrated systems should allow us to realize significant customer service and |
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| | marketing efficiencies, both to reduce our operating costs and improve our |
| | customer satisfaction. |
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| | In summary, this combination creates a larger, financially stronger company |
| | which should be well positioned to significantly increase shareholder value, |
| | both the in the near term and well into the future. That concludes our |
| | prepared remarks and we would be happy to take a few questions. Operator, |
| | if you would please, provide instructions for the Q&A session. |
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Operator: | | The floor is now open for questions. At this time if you have a question or a |
| | comment please press star 1 on your touch-tone phone. If at any point your |
| | question is answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing |
| | the pound key. We do ask that that while you pose your question, that you |
| | pick up your handset to provide optimal sound quality. Thank you. Our first |
| | question is coming from Jason Armstrong with Goldman Sachs. |
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Jason Armstrong: | | Thanks. Good morning and congratulations. There’s going to be just a |
| | couple of quick ones. On, first, just on the thought process here, urban versus |
| | rural (inaudible), maybe you could just walk us through your comfort level |
| | with operating in urban areas (inaudible) which steps outside the traditional |
| | framework we’ve seen before with you. You know maybe how did you think |
| | of doing a deal that has a lot more urban exposure versus sticking to some of |
| | the more rural deals you’ve done before. And then second question I guess |
| | just a data point, can you give us what the break fee is for this, for this deal? |
| | Thanks. |
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Male: | | First of all, customary break up fees in this transaction, Jason. Regarding how |
| | we see the urban assets, we believe that first of all, that EMBARQ's already |
| | incurred a lot of the initial competitive impacts of the cable companies rolling |
| | out the voice-over IP product. They’ve lost potential market share in these |
| | urban markets. We believe with our, our little different approach to market |
| | strategy that we can be effective in driving penetration of especially |
| | broadband services in urban markets and well as the rural areas. |
|
| | Now we, we’re going to focus more on direct mail versus mass media. It’s |
| | been EMBARQ's approach. We’ll be more aggressive, more on finance with |
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| | the business. They haven’t done a bad job, it’s just a different approach to the |
| | markets. I think we’ll take what’s been undertaken previously in each market. |
| | We’ll be (inaudible) cable and speed, with our all-out focus on broadband, our |
| | think fast message. We’ll plan to launch an aggressive pure broadband |
| | service offering. These markets, especially in the college towns we think will |
| | be very effective. We’ll be more aggressive in expanding our distribution |
| | channels, especially door-to-door in our prepaid markets. Some of the |
| | markets. |
|
| | So we – also we’ll go into more pure pricing structure. And we were |
| | surprised based on the competitive requirements in each market. We’ll build |
| | more, with our – back to all the systems we have the ability to quickly change |
| | prices and then to target pricing and bundles in certain areas, in certain |
| | individual markets and market areas and regionals, regions. We think it will |
| | be very effective, especially competing in all these other markets. So we’re |
| | not concerned about that. We believe we can compete. Especially when you |
| | look, they’ve already taken on again the onslaught of the initial competitive |
| | surge from the cable companies. |
|
Jason Armstrong: | | And (inaudible) if you think about overlaying a lot of these things on the |
| | EMBARQ territory, you know one of the things that you had done that was |
| | different from a lot of your peers is buy spectrum in the most recent spectrum |
| | auction and talk about overlaying a lot of your footprint with a real sort of |
| | facilities based wireless strategy. How does this play into the EMBARQ |
| | footprint? |
|
Glen Post: | | Well Jason, we believe that the 700 megahertz spectrum is, is certainly viable |
| | and can drive real value. Of course, our approach there has been to not |
| | (inaudible) product, it will be a really, a broadband play driving wireless |
| | broadband data. We believe there will be an opportunity to trade spectrum |
| | from some of the markets we already have. We think there will be possibly |
| | opportunities to carve out and building out spectrum that other carriers have |
| | today, would perhaps not want to build out in our markets. So we think there |
| | will be opportunities there to prospect and to build out and trade (inaudible). |
| | So we still think it’s a viable investment and can drive value for shareholders |
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| | long tem and certainly can improve the (inaudible) for our customers. So we |
| | plan to continue to pursue that opportunity in these additional markets. |
|
Jason Armstrong: | | OK, great, and just back to the break fee. You said, you know your word was |
| | “customary” and I think a lot of people sort of think of that in the 2.5 percent |
| | of total deal size range. IS that what we should be thinking about, or is there |
| | any sort of specific number you can attach to it? |
|
Glen Post: | | That detail will be filed later today, Jason. So we’ll just say it’s pretty normal |
| | course. |
|
Jason Armstrong: | | OK |
| | |
Glen Post: | | But later this week, rather. |
|
Jason Armstrong: | | Great. |
| | |
Operator: | | Your next question comes from Simon Flannery with Morgan Stanley. |
|
Simon Flannery: | | Thanks a lot and if I can add my congratulations. Can you talk a little bit |
| | about the approval process and the timelines? I think you said second quarter. |
| | What, how many states do you think you’ll need approval in as well as |
| | shareholder approvals and does the, sort of political cycle sort of risk timing |
| | on that? |
|
| | And then on clustering. I note from the very helpful map that you put in on |
| | page six that in some places like the Pacific Northwest and parts of the |
| | Midwest you seem to be you know setting up some pretty nice clusters here. |
| | But it, maybe you can give us a sense more on sort of access line or percent of |
| | base. How many of these are in places where you can really start to put in |
| | things like the technical, maintenance staff and so forth and really integrate |
| | them tightly, not just at the head office level. Thanks. |
|
Tom Gerke: | | Simon, Tom Gerke let me take your first part and then turn it back to Glen. I |
| | think the tall pole in the tent, if you will, will be the state regulatory approval |
| | process. That’s what we expect. We’d estimate about 16 of the 33 is our |
| | current estimate. We’re going to continue to compare our diligence and |
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| | review, but 16 state approvals as well as FCC and DOJ approval. We think |
| | the time frame second quarter fits comfortably within a six to eight month |
| | time period. Frankly, Glen and I will be doing everything possible to work |
| | together to beat that and we think we have a chance, but that’s our current |
| | estimate. The election cycle, I don’t think that measurably impacts this in |
| | terms of the state PUC approvals, so that’s where we think it’s key. Glen’s |
| | team and my team have very excellent relationships with the state regulators. |
| | We’re both represent ongoing operators who are very committed to these |
| | markets. We both bring investment grade balance sheets to the table, and so |
| | we think we have the set of facts and conditions that not only should receive |
| | approval but should be welcomed by these regulators as they review the |
| | transaction. |
|
Glen Post: | | And Simon, regarding the clusters. We have some excellent clustering |
| | opportunities here from this combination of our companies. The Midwest |
| | area, the Southeast area and the Western properties, we expect to have four or |
| | five excellent clusters in the 1.5 – 2 million access line range and this is going |
| | to fit very well. It’s going – if you look at the maps, there’s great clusters |
| | here. States contiguous in most cases, many areas. We’ll headquarter in some |
| | of our largest states as we operate, as we set up these regional operations. |
|
Simon Flannery: | | OK thank you. |
|
Operator: | | Your next question comes from Michael Nelson with Stanford Group. |
|
Michael Nelson: | | Thanks for taking my question. If I could maybe, two quick questions. The |
| | first one’s for (Tom). You know as you looked to sell the company, was this a |
| | competitive bidding process and were there any other bidders? |
|
| | And then a completely separate question for Glen. Can you discuss the |
| | proposed regulatory changes that we’re hearing about now with the FCC on |
| | inter-carrier compensation and USS subsidies and any way to handicap the |
| | potential changes and the impact to your business. |
|
Male: | | I’ll go first. The board engaged as you would expect in a very robust |
| | process rather than getting in any details now that will obviously be described |
| | in the proxy. But rest assured we looked at all of our strategic alternatives. |
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| | We made sure that we understood the various alternatives and then went |
| | through very diligent process of weighing all of the relevant factors and then |
| | reached a conclusion, and with great satisfaction, that we think Glen and his |
| | company are going to be a great combination, a great fit for all the reasons |
| | we’re discussing today. |
|
Glen Post: | | And Michael, regarding the FCC order. Look, we’re disappointed in what, in |
| | the proposal best, what we’ve seen, we haven’t seen the whole order. But |
| | what we’ve heard and know about it, we’re disappointed. There are many |
| | moving parts yet. It’s really impossible to determine the actual impact. We |
| | are very concerned though if the current proposal were to pass it would have |
| | significant impact on local rates for customers in rural markets and smaller |
| | cities across the country. That’s our major concern we’d have. |
|
| | We’re going to continue to correspond and work with the, within our industry |
| | group, the CEOs and the mid-sized sector and with the FCC and other |
| | constituencies to try to work through this and be sure that it’s not, does not |
| | end up being a order that’s approved that really hurts customers in rural |
| | America. And that’s what could happen here and that’s our biggest concern. |
| | But there are a lot of moving parts, as I said, and we’ll know more in the |
| | weeks ahead. |
|
Michael Nelson: | | Thanks. Congratulations and good luck. |
|
Glen Post: | | Thank you. |
|
Male: | | And Glen, I would add on that last topic with the uncertainty that you |
| | mentioned. One thing that’s true is combined, we’re better positioned to deal |
| | with it, whatever it is. We’re still going to advocate because we have a good |
| | set of facts, and we think there needs to be a much better focus on rural |
| | America. That's the part of the United States where broadband, or you know |
| | information highway is not fully extended yet, and we're best positioned to |
| | take care of that, so we'll strongly advocate it, but I also think that this |
| | transaction today improves our ability to address any decision that does come. |
|
Operator: | | Your next question comes from David Barden with Bank of America. |
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David Barden: | | Hey, guys, thanks for taking a question. Congrats. A couple, if I could, the |
| | first one is maybe just a follow up on that question, guys. Could each of you |
| | share with us the percentage of revenues that are currently interstate intrastate |
| | access, and the average rate which you enjoy on that. I think that would help |
| | us do our math to kind of get a sense as to what the potential impact could be |
| | depending on what the outcome of the SEC rules is. |
|
| | The second, if I could, on the synergies and the merger costs, is it fair to |
| | assume that these kind of happen in a smooth way over the three years, or are |
| | we looking at some low hanging fruits, and lots of the synergies and benefits |
| | and costs kind of coming relatively quickly. |
|
| | I think the last thing I want to just touch on, Glen, I want to be clear. It kind |
| | of sounded like you were suggesting like Century Tel wants to extrapolate |
| | kind of a wireless build strategy across the entire eight million lines combined |
| | company footprint. Are the kind of costs and strategies that you're |
| | contemplating there, embedded in this synergy number? Is this synergy |
| | number net of those new strategies, or is that just kind of a status quo synergy |
| | number. Thanks. |
|
Glen Post: | | On the last question first, they are a more status quo synergy number, and we |
| | don't have any plans right now to acquire any additional spectrum, but |
| | opportunistically, we will follow our varied discipline process. We believe |
| | we can buy spectrum and bill it out and earn returns that are attractive in |
| | driving shareholder value. We will do that. If the prices are too high, they'll |
| | ask too much, we will not do it. Oh course, we're going to pursue the LPE, |
| | our plans with the LPE technology, and the 700 mega-hertz spectrum, which |
| | also AT&T and Verizon, we expect them to follow that path. And we'll see |
| | how this will be rolling out toward the end of 2009 and early 2010, so there |
| | will be very little expenditures between now and 2010, and we'll just see how |
| | this plays out in the months ahead. |
|
| | It is extremely attractive spectrum, some of the best spectrum that's available |
| | anywhere, and we think it's valuable because of its characteristics. |
|
| | Stewart, do you want to talk about… |
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Stewart Ewing: | | David, on the synergies, course there are some synergies that can come fairly |
| | quickly, however, a good part of the synergies will come as we do the systems |
| | conversions, which again we expect to take 24 months to possibly 36 months. |
|
(Male): | | Regarding the (inaudible) interstate and intrastate, we're not really prepared to |
| | talk about that today, David. We can get that information to you. We'll see |
| | how this thing goes in the next few weeks. We're working on this as we |
| | speak. As I said the slowly moving parts, it's really difficult to determine |
| | where this thing is headed right now, but we will be back with you on this as |
| | this thing develops. |
|
David Barden: | | Got you. OK guys, thanks. Good luck. |
|
Operator: | | Your next question comes from Tim Horan with Oppenheimer Funds. |
|
Tim Horan: | | Hi guys, a couple of questions, to Tom, mostly. Tom, given that you're twice |
| | the size of Century Tel, maybe you can walk through the thinking of why your |
| | management team, or management controller, you actually be acquiring |
| | Century Tel as opposed to getting acquired. Was it more of EBITDA issue? |
|
| | And secondly to you Tom, and then I just had follow up. You know Century |
| | Tel stock is down quite a bit this morning, are you worried at all that maybe |
| | someone might make a hostile bid for Century Tel, and what kind of |
| | protections do you have in case that happens? Thanks. |
|
Tom Gerke: | | Yes, first we've often said that industry consolidation makes sense that we |
| | would be willing to consider it, but one of the threshold requirements was that |
| | it would be accretive and beneficial to both sets of shareholders and we |
| | believe that's exactly the type of arrangement that we have here. I think that |
| | the management team that's put together that will be a– Glen and I talked a lot |
| | about this– truly selecting the best athletes to fill out the team, but I think |
| | when you look at the experience that Glen brings to the table, and the focus as |
| | COO, (Karen Pucket), I think that this is a phenomenal leadership, and when |
| | you blend them together, that's the best of the best, is a better approach than |
| | thinking about one particular set of management versus the other. |
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| | And in terms of the commitment, both boards spent substantial time looking |
| | through all the relevant factors, and this wasn't a hurried decision by any |
| | stretch, and people spent a lot of time thinking about it and focusing on why |
| | this was the best. We have the normal protections that exist, but both |
| | companies, I believe, are fully committed to the deal, and seeing it through. |
|
Tim Horan: | | Just to play devil's advocate on the two risks, if someone does come in to try |
| | and make a hostile on Century, given how much they've traded down today |
| | you know what protections do you have on that, and or, maybe Century Tel |
| | can comment on that. |
|
| | And then, secondly, back to the regulatory risks, Century Tel does get |
| | substantially more subsidies than you do, if there were to be major changes on |
| | the regulatory front, would that kind of trigger any macro clauses or can you |
| | discuss some of those. Thank you, thanks. |
|
Tom Gerke: | | Yes, first we've often said that industry consolidation makes sense that we |
| | would be willing to consider it, but one of the threshold requirements was that |
| | it would be accretive and beneficial to both sets of shareholders and we |
| | believe that's exactly the type of arrangement that we have here. I think that |
| | the management team that's put together that will be a– Glen and I talked a lot |
| | about this– truly selecting the best athletes to fill out the team, but I think |
| | when you look at the experience that Glen brings to the table, and the focus as |
| | COO, (Karen Pucket), I think that this is a phenomenal leadership, and when |
| | you blend them together, that's the best of the best, is a better approach than |
| | thinking about one particular set of management versus the other. |
|
| | And in terms of the commitment, both boards spent substantial time looking |
| | through all the relevant factors, and this wasn't a hurried decision by any |
| | stretch, and people spent a lot of time thinking about it and focusing on why |
| | this was the best. We have the normal protections that exist, but both |
| | companies, I believe, are fully committed to the deal, and seeing it through. |
|
Tim Horan: | | Just to play devil's advocate on the two risks, if someone does come in to try |
| | and make a hostile on Century, given how much they've traded down today |
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| | you know what protections do you have on that, and or, maybe Century Tel |
| | can comment on that. |
|
| | And then, secondly, back to the regulatory risks, Century Tel does get |
| | substantially more subsidies than you do, if there were to be major changes on |
| | the regulatory front, would that kind of trigger any macro clauses or can you |
| | discuss some of those. Thank you, thanks. |
|
Tom Gerke: | | Well first on the second one, in terms of the regulatory, actually this order is |
| | sufficiently vague, is unpublished, has enough different components, it treats |
| | different classifications differently, so there's the potential, but I would |
| | emphasize on that point, that the two companies combined, are in the best |
| | position on a go forward basis. I think that's you know the key one. |
| | And then again, on the protections, it'll be filed promptly, the agreement will |
| | be there. All of the normal protections that you would expect in a deal where |
| | both parties signed up with a full commitment to seeing it through, will be in |
| | the agreement. |
|
Tim Horan: | | Thank you. |
|
Glen Post: | | Regarding the (inaudible) issue, I'm not going to speculate what may or may |
| | not happen here, but we know this is a great investment for our company, for |
| | our shareholders. It has created a free cash flow, the first cash flow for a year. |
| | We paid a fair price (for) (EMBARQ), I'm confident this will drive |
| | shareholder value over time, and we're very pleased with this transaction. |
|
Tim Horan: | | Thanks Glen. |
|
Operator: | | Your next question comes from Michael Rollins with Citi Investment |
| | Research. |
|
Michael Rollins: | | Great, thanks, good morning. Tom, just wanted to follow up on a couple of |
| | comments that you made. You know I was just wondering – you mentioned |
| | that it was a well throughout process, but why today? |
|
| | You know it's – I guess the question is, if there is a possibility for regulatory |
| | change and if all the details are not known today, can you talk a little bit more |
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| | about what one of you were you thinking to go today, versus possibly waiting |
| | a week or 10 days, for some clarity to be shed on that front. |
|
| | And the second comment that you made is that the two companies would be |
| | better off combined than separately. In your opinion, which company is better |
| | off today, heading into the possibility of regulatory change and how did that |
| | feed into your decision making process? |
|
| | Thanks. For the Board's, excuse me, decision making process. Thanks. |
|
Glen Post: | | I think the focus is for a long time in this sector, there've been lots of different |
| | reasons why industry consolidation hasn't occurred and there's you know |
| | unlimited different reasons for it not to occur. |
|
| | And so, we've looked at the potential for the synergies, the time to realize |
| | those and weighed that against the fact that there's – as we've said, not |
| | numerous times, not only substantial uncertainly, but even once the – first the |
| | decision may be very narrow and then whatever decision is there, in all |
| | likelihood will get appealed, as many of the FCC orders do. |
|
| | So, the time until there will would be a real clarity on this could be you know |
| | very far down the road. And then in terms of which company is best suited on |
| | an individual basis, there are at -within the USF section of this, there're |
| | potential commitments or a person would have to, either as we understand it, |
| | again, it's unpublished, step up to a commitment to build out broadband or run |
| | the risk that someone else might come in and over bid them and so form of |
| | reverse option. |
|
| | That's not all fully determined yet, so in that case, Glen as a little further |
| | footprint build-out and in that case, you know I would say that he probably |
| | have an advantage, with respect to the access and different markets, we |
| | probably have the advantage. |
|
| | There's potential for rate of return and price cap carriers to be treated |
| | differently. There's a different mix there and Glen is – company is in the |
| | process of moving to price cap, but hasn't completed that process and |
| | probably has some flexibility that other carriers don't have. |
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| | So I think when you put all the mix in and the opportunity that this deal |
| | presents and the ability to start achieving synergies now, that was the mix that |
| | the – that the board considered and the overall view of the transaction, when |
| | they looked at all the factors. |
|
Michael Rollins: | | Thank you. |
|
Operator: | | Your next question comes from Chris King with Stifel Nicolaus. |
|
Chris King: | | Good morning guys and congratulations. Just two quick questions – first of |
| | all I just wanted to clarify that there's no evaluation collar associated with the |
| | – with the deal, I don't believe there is, but just wanted to confirm that with |
| | you. |
|
| | And secondly, with respect to your pro forma capital structure, as you guys |
| | pointed out, you're still going to have relatively low leverage and a pretty |
| | good looking balance sheet, obviously given the current situation in the capital |
| | markets. |
|
| | You guys may not be ready to comment on this yet, but any thought, at least |
| | initially as to what your ideal pro forma or capital structure might be. |
|
| | Would you be comfortable kind of maintain a two-times leverage going |
| | forward or would you look to increase that in any way, shape or form you |
| | know certainly again, depending on what the capital market's environment |
| | might look like a year or two from now? Thanks. |
|
Glen Post: | | Chris first, there's no evaluation collar involved here. And regarding our pro |
| | forma of capital structure, you know we – we're not ready to state a target |
| | here. We do expect to return substantial amount of cash to shareholders over |
| | time. |
|
| | But we'll be within our target or our goal of remaining investment grade as far |
| | as credit ratings are concerned. So that would be the key factor that we'll be |
| | looking to there. |
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| | But it positions us extremely well for the future to make – to have the |
| | flexibility to make creative investments that in strategic acquisitions and to |
| | bring more cash to shareholders over time. |
|
Chris King: | | Thank you. |
|
Operator: | | Your next question comes from Frank Louthan with Raymond James. |
|
Frank Louthan: | | Great, thank you. Real quick, is – are there any – I saw that the bank |
| | (convenience) to refinance the EMBARQ – are there any other change of |
| | control provisions on the CenturyTel side of the key needs to refinance and |
| | that's it? |
|
Glen Post: | | Yes, there are no other changes of control provisions in-fact CenturyTel. |
|
Frank Louthan: | | OK great, thank you. |
|
Operator: | | Your next question comes from Chris Larsen with Credit Suisse. |
|
Chris Larsen: | | Actually, my questions have more or less been answered. But at what point, |
| | how far out do you feel that you need to go before you get back on the |
| | acquisition train again? Is it two years out, three years out? |
|
Glen Post: | | Chris, obviously, we won't jump back in immediately, but you know it |
| | depends on the opportunity and the requirements for the conversion of |
| | customer basis and that kind of think. I think within a year of so, we'd be |
| | ready to look at possibilities of other acquisition opportunities. |
|
| | So, I don't think it will be a, you know long time, because we have facilities in |
| | place and we have – especially with our systems, we'll be converting quickly |
| | to our systems from – our back office systems from EMBARQ, which we |
| | think we have some of the back offices in customer care, billing systems, in |
| | our sector. |
|
| | And we'll be ready quickly to consider other – other acquisition opportunities |
| | in the months ahead. |
|
Chris Larsen: | | Thanks and congratulations again. |
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Glen Post: | | Thank you Chris. |
|
Operator: | | Your last question comes from Batya Levi with UBS. |
|
Batya Levi: | | Hi, thanks a lot. Just one question on margins – looking at the performing |
| | margins for the Performa Company, including the synergies, I think you will |
| | still be somewhat lower than your peers and I want to ask what you think |
| | some of the differences are. |
|
| | Do you think you can continue to drive margins to your peers' level over |
| | time? Thanks. |
|
Glen Post: | | You know overlooking there of course if the combination of EMBARQ and |
| | CenturyTel's margins and we do expect to be able to drive margins overtime. |
|
| | However, as you know the whole mix of revenue mix in our industry is |
| | changing to – from the more access revenue local exchange revenue to the |
| | more of the data revenues. |
|
| | Where we do have inherently lower – lower margins, however, we expect to |
| | be able to drive the revenue growth and these new services overtime. And a |
| | key factor in – when you compare CenturyTel's margins to our peer |
| | companies is that we're still in a fast 71 at CenturyTel. |
|
| | If you take – if you assume we were – we're moving past 71, we would |
| | actually – our margin would improve about three percentage points. |
|
| | In addition to that, we have our regional fiber operations and our IPTV |
| | operations that have that we – other companies do not have that have |
| | inherently lower margins today. So, those are some of the factors you're |
| | seeing in those differences in our margins versus other companies. |
|
Gene Betts: | | Glen if I could have – this is Gene Betts. If you're looking at combining |
| | EMBARQ's numbers, you need to be careful to remove EMBARQ logistics, |
| | which is nearly a half billion of revenue, basically you now it's just |
| | distribution. |
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| | When you remove that, our merger from 300 basis points higher than with |
| | logistics in it, so be careful that you've got apples to apples there when you do |
| | the modeling. |
|
Batya Levi: | | OK, thanks. |
|
Operator: | | We have reached our allotted time for questions. Mr. Post, do you have any |
| | closing remarks? |
|
Glen Post: | | Yes, just again, we're, we're very pleased with this transaction, we believe |
| | long-term – it's going to be very good for shareholders. It's accreted a free |
| | cash flow per share as an equity deal in the first year. |
|
| | We expect over – expect $400 million of synergies, it improved our |
| | competitive position, we're able to level our – both companies very high |
| | quality network asset, especially our 17,000 mile regional fiber-network that |
| | connects – will connect many of our states now and we will have |
| | opportunities to expand. |
|
| | We're better positioned financially to take advantage of future investment |
| | opportunities and return cash to shareholders as well. |
|
| | So, we're pleased, very pleased with this transaction, we're looking forward to |
| | working the EMBARQ, their management team, their leadership team and |
| | their employees to complete this transaction. |
|
| | And we appreciate your participation today in this call and look forward to |
| | speaking with you in the future. |
|
Gene Betts: | | Glen thank you and I echo your comments. |
|
Operator: | | Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call and Webcast, please |
| | disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day. |
|
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