Joel Wine: | | … could be first half, second half of the year, we don’t know. But I would say, Jack, for modeling purposes, you know, using a middle of the year type number, you know, we’re fine with that for modeling purposes. |
| | So in that context, you know, at the end — in the middle of the year, you’ve got — what we say, what we’re saying is there’s two main things that would effect this net debt number. The first is, you know, what’s Horizon generally doing in terms of normal cash flow generation in their business. And this year, you know, year-to-date, in the nine months year-to-date, their net debt number is up about $17 million so you might see a little bit of creep in this to their normal ordinary course operations and their increase debt cost. |
| | But what we’re also saying is that the larger effect is likely to be the cash effect of this Puerto Rico shutdown of operations items. So they announced today that those items would be about $85 million to $95 million of cash cost, Jack, and from Matson on an after-tax basis, you know, that’s a number around $70 million. |
Jack Atkins: | | OK. That’s great. And then just for my follow-up, could you comment about, you know, the utilization of Horizon’s current Alaska fleet and, you know, where, sort of, you know, is the volume level in relationship to prior cycles, you know, I’m just trying to understand, you know, as it relates to your Hawaii business, you know, we’re expecting, you know, increased volumes overtime, you know, the same thing happening, you know, with Alaska, so just trying to understand where we are in that particular state cycle. |