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| | But that’s being very much integrated with our integrated systems approach here. So you’ll get a pretty pure view of the accounting. But fundamentally Isotech is all part of that core growth rate as well. |
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| | And obviously we book keep it as an acquisition. But we’re seeing some nice pull through on our existing products. So plus or minus Mike, it’s you know 400 basis points a quarter of impact than your organic growth rate that we’ve described. |
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Mike Schneider: | | OK. And then in the (FST) division, just margins during the quarter were huge because of the (mix), presumably lower fire suppression and higher everything else. Should we expect – is there anything unsustainable in this margin assuming that fire suppression does remain weak in 2Q, and presumably at least into 3Q? |
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Larry Kingsley: | | I think Mike said the one thing that we feel very good about as it relates to margins in the segment, particularly as you have you know witnessed what we have done to manage through the (stainless) spikes, (stainless) has come back down. But it you look at the primary area of commodity concern in the segment, it is (stainless). And out team just did a fabulous job. Absolutely fabulous job of working through that over the last six months. |
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| | And so now you know we’re still anticipating volatility for sure in many of the metals – you know for the remainder of the year. But we think that you know there is certainly not going to be an adverse material impact as it relates to (FST). So otherwise no, I think the answer to your question is we feel good about margin capability. |
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Mike Schneider: | | Within the (ban clamping) business, when steel was – or (stainless) was raging, really in the back half of last year, was that pricing put through as a surcharge, or just the list price increase? |
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Larry Kingsley: | | There is a combination of price actions that apply depending on the channel, and/or customer situation. And as you know, in most cases, not just specific to that business, but in total, we tend to sustain price. So less surcharge, more price. |
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Mike Schneider: | | OK. And then just another margin specific question. In dispensing, the margins (that are) hugely volatile and I am trying to understand the interplay. If you have got more project related business going out domestically in 2Q and for the balance of the year, should we see the – or the return to this upper 20s range in margins, or does that type of mix actually depress the margins? |
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Larry Kingsley: | | Mike, we won’t give you an actual percent. But you know when you look at dispensing in total, historically our margins U.S. versus Europe and foreign are pretty consistently equal in terms of the rate. What you really see with dispensing, if you look even sequentially or year-on-year it is really about volume. And the (lever) point that you know call it the $50 million kind of revenue rate. Once you see the leverage on that additional volume above that it levers at a significant year-on-year. |
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| | So I won’t call it high 20s, but clearly you’ll see a higher margin rate than what you would see in Q1 based solely on volume. Mix tends to play a lesser part of the equation within dispensing. |