Meg O’Neill: Look Nik, first and foremost that detail is commercial in confidence. But what is probably worth highlighting on the chart that shows the molecule flows, natural gas is a feedstock, so as natural gas prices would move, you could expect the feedstock prices to move as well. But otherwise the content inside the box, we’ve got high cost confidence in all of those elements.
Nik Burns: (Jarden Australia, Analyst) Right, thank you.
Operator: Thank you, your next question comes from Fiona Manning from The Australian Council of Superannuation Investors. Please go ahead.
Fiona Manning: (The Australian Council of Superannuation Investors, Analyst) Thank you, thanks for the presentation also. I’m just trying to get my head around the impact on Scope 1, 2 and 3 emissions, with and without the CCS. The presentation has the Scope 1 and 2 increase with CCS, I’m just wondering what the increase in Scope 3 would be?
Meg O’Neill: Let me throw that to Shaun. Shaun, do you have that at your fingertips?
Shaun Gregory: Thanks for the question. The Scope 1 is less than 0.1 kilos per unit, so it’s very low through Phases 1 and 2. We can probably get that lower again, subject to us concluding a renewable power purchase agreement. So, the Scope 1 and 2 is very, very low. The Scope 3 of course changes when the CCS comes online. So, the real benefit of this project is when the CCS comes online and the Scope 3 gets to a number like 0.6 million tonnes of CO2 versus the unabated, is at 2.3 million tonnes.
Fiona Manning: (The Australian Council of Superannuation Investors, Analyst) Thank you very much.
Shaun Gregory: That’s at Phase 1.
Fiona Manning: (The Australian Council of Superannuation Investors, Analyst) Understood, cheers thank you.
Meg O’Neill: Thanks, Fiona.
Operator: Thank you, your next question comes from James Byrne from Citi, please go ahead.
James Byrne: (Citi, Analyst) Hi, my main question is why now? Because you talk about jumping to the front of the queue with this low carbon ammonia, the $5 billion in new energy spend is always described as being backdated towards the end of the decade. The paint’s barely dry on Driftwood, which was done just 14 days ago, and yet the macro’s moving very quickly against you, I think.
I’m very interested to understand, you’ve explained the strategic rationale, but what about the timing of the deal, why now?
Meg O’Neill: There are very few opportunities of this quality available, James, in fact there’s none. The fact that the current owner, that OCI was looking to step away from the ammonia business, they’ve conducted a strategic review, and I’m sure you’ve seen that they’ve sold a couple of other ammonia plants. They were looking to step away and we saw the opportunity and said gosh we can’t pass this up again, it’s absolutely in the right neighbourhood.
It is a capital-light project, again it saves us from having to build the whole front end of the plant by being able to contract that from a third party. Meets our rate of return, and again it positions us extremely well to be able to compete in the new energy marketplace. It was really too good an opportunity to pass up, and we did have a lot of conversations around the timing of this versus the timing of Tellurian.
That also was an opportunity that had been in the works for a while, but timing just got to be the perfect point. So, we’ve stress tested ourselves, we’ve really challenged ourselves, do we have the organisational capacity, the financial capacity to take on both? We think we do, we’re going to need really strong management and leadership engagement and we’ve got confidence that we have that.
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