MODV - Earnings call transcript Q4 2021

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Operator

Greetings, welcome to ModivCare's Fourth Quarter 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. Please note this conference is being recorded. time. this At conference and the Jonathan Senior Bush, I'll Counsel. over President General Vice turn to Jonathan, begin. may you now

Jonathan Bush

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Dan Greenleaf

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Jason Anderson

Dan. Thank you,

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Heath Sampson

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the was financials all primarily higher the driven includes $XXX driven fourth as trip of increased XXXX. fourth the associated Turning per expense by of well to costs XX% higher compared higher NEMT which increased costs, Service The year-over-year our $XXX unit million, or with increase trip the quarter XXXX. primarily cost volume, which as of direct costs. by nearly to for XXXX higher NEMT fourth quarter segment revenue quarter trip year-over-year to in to million. segment, for NEMT service increased XX% volumes, XX%

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margins would earnings Excluding have quarter to third line segment, line for we the NEMT call. Adjusted EBITDA which favorable revenue true-up, with NEMT in our X% adjusted expectations been in our XXXX, NEMT with that long-term shared in XX%. more EBITDA segment adjusted quarter adjusted expectations of our the fourth EBITDA on EBITDA is margin were X% the of

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shortages operations vaccine prior-year $X the latest of $X as million fourth pandemic, primary recent prior digit the of quarter the of drove fourth COVID-XX sequentially, personal Our the in was of to which period. of income EBITDA EBITDA XXXX. and around which compared in care continued to care of target shortage in weather, continuation declined, well year below X% XX% cause service segment of margins a continuing overtime. compared low inclement caregivers, our longer-than-expected a caregiver to as XXXX hours in hours remain levels basis to our X% Segment and due single XX% and million to of quarter seasonality was elevated the depressed the in period, Adjusted by the declined and caused mandates. holidays $XX the due on combined for to was Personal million adjusted fourth quarter the variant

on Simplura, focused CareFinders and synergies and EBITDA acquisition and our on targeted We which from operational initiatives are executing discussed our earlier, strategic reach to of will the us realizing range. enable

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a of by by flow was negative $XX the partially XXXX, fourth generated quarter in $XX reduction of million. from payable of the operations a receivable During impact accounts in favorably reduction offset cash impacted of million from cash contracts

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Operator

Thank you. question-and-answer we'll a you. be At this Thank [Operator now time, conducting session. Instructions].

comes with question first the Our your question. Securities. with line proceed of Please CJS from Labick Bob

Bob Labick

Good strong congratulations on morning a and QX.

Dan Greenleaf

very much, you Bob. Thank

Bob Labick

to Absolutely. about, Yes. transportation the great. to talk lots I good was of wanted network on lots provider update start -- stuff. The

you stand in And -- whatnot. You want the the where obviously, you versus provider you network density vehicles thousands said, filled thousand to new where of terms of be. of -- in to then how it as continue how Curious pre or also, thousands recover now and is broadly will us was now - speaking utilization to year-over-year. - think -- a levels Covid long? and Covid where pre Give trend that versus couple you -- up

Dan Greenleaf

Yes.

things. a Bob, So, of couple

health, where of In member population. the sophisticated pretty look vehicles, we terms county the We a the to based needs algorithm number we all of that we're way we network our evaluating of down actually level on need use. have the

this As every I at mentioned, day. we look

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think the a was COVID. that where for to that and will it really of And that we we one pre that's back, that stands we as percent it levels right is better I are of do back done much job managing business ever reason we've - ineligible doubt it not there's our go a good riders kind coming so review now.

Heath Sampson

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that So, to with Dan for states the know all across about, board. talked the the tool we the now insight have and where we target and strategies

Dan Greenleaf

the modality Bob, say, we're much I think I the sophisticated in of member. right also getting we're what's more thing would for -- terms other The

So, that appointment, which is be we use own Lyft or of whether our our family that member apply whether be brings person the member's of different own to to use to the the networks. provider, or which mass TNC, Uber, that transit,

that business. to this how run think I significantly our We're historically center best be think the call pretty also sophisticated in will getting member on representatives terms we're So, we've what's I end. the using something evaluate and else really more of modality different that for them. engage That's much

Bob Labick

NEMT, That's opportunities. you to large helpful. you. Thank of just great. one Okay, Then last on pipeline alluded

said large you over few about million you I next the that bids expect outstanding. think I there's years. something some $XXX know

about you ahead when on and bids the opportunities out the of are outlook for might that update learn any Now, current XXXX of we there? any

Dan Greenleaf

What I very our say position. feel Bob, is to we would strong about

very XXXX are of we We're in remarks, XXX% state As network our contracts and we retention mentioned since my well-positioned. We've contract MCO been our and XX% since has XX% retention now got digitized. a in XXXX.

as best-in-class we've center is bumpy are now one performance issues of -- our had levels say our related would taken centers performance. to way service contact contact and to that a Some I performance world-class it's the unequivocally that and

we -- well-positioned. we it a And very the quickly of we're superpower, the was I if to -- the opportunities in done our in and it's you ability think will, So, did COVID. other we networks you at it really united again if of, saw some of end network and build is business think health will. I we've bought And

And we so, again, about very very arrangements. strongly we where feel well-positioned on we're I are. And these think

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size previously I so market was larger I understood of we well updated we previously and think recently where about not good our been that really indicating we the think this the because is. is what than had very feel analysis and

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the were use service ones and being conditions the most most ends inclined that who -- what you'd exactly want. to that's up of terms severe the their have prevented it. In Because

look historical we at our retention where Again, that's are. we So rates.

positioned done about going of we've really forward. years we're over You look at last what and how good we feel the couple

Bob Labick

Okay. the opportunities on and That then terrific. network Pretty ahead. good sounds

But just recruit how Maybe of well. population want I bit to you you sense personal to takes you the are a modernize it ask for one with of and it now and priorities back So, to improve or lack give more I get terms, the I'll and of -- just and process just in your relates to ability better and recruiting caregiver that past little more, will where of transportation it -- long care. think know us of kind caregivers the a dig be? jump Maybe to, for network rebuilt as part network, queue. you're the again

Dan Greenleaf

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anything what's have don't labor I a good the we you'll codes that. in I about and of else locations the zip feel from think know add very I happening to perspective. right concentration

Jason Anderson

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will increased around of we'll As Dan tech, through much to that Dan small centralized better there'll individual have reimbursement -- which flow caregivers. And said, have the through be matter will you it ease-of-use around then that. about too of on flow also marketing the talked payment. recruiting; things rates timing

So specific why those and it'll getting a back. transition all we just are about caregivers in few all actions what to about talked feel and add us up Dan good result the they'll

Dan Greenleaf

many that business exceeded of by beauty, other supply Bob, our markets. demand The this in at is XX%

So, significant. caregivers, opportunities to care as the the are we bring in provide

looks future about feel -- optimistic we've think I again, we're the good Bob, like. we and a position So, really got here very in what

Bob Labick

that's very great. you Thank Okay, much.

Operator

you. Thank

question proceed Bank. Chickering the with your next comes with Our Deutsche Please of from question. line Pito

Pito Chickering

guys. my Thanks morning, good for taking Hey, questions.

long-term the on is one First guidance.

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Dan Greenleaf

Good Pito. morning, Yes. Yes.

us now, done if right that is across-the-board. as about feel consensus really have you job guys good For a where good we

that's think look I a to as the So, whole. right at proxy

Pito Chickering

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Dan Greenleaf

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Heath Sampson

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to Now the talked be where about the that efforts we stuff our is understand it to where earlier. recruiting implement from need question and we Bob,

place. So, we in got right the leader team We have visibility. the in

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Dan Greenleaf

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Pito Chickering

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Dan Greenleaf

things. I would say a couple of

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Heath Sampson

operational the That an that is experience. nothing state, increase. now right to more price. definitely Then the MCO, utilization customers, to can incrementally also member to levels then then consistency and expect the We -- our pre-COVID. levels perspective, not priority member stable? environment whether relatively close macro been and again, a and that behavior buying experience But with From the

four is price number share focused maybe payer that a price a our For We mind, where nationally. was states. contract in from everything up. Then three doing with thin, cases operations. With the we're we're little renegotiated member prices or large other renegotiating in just and experience for the on

then what network the is to sure we driver need most and the renegotiate. matters, with are, scale unit that's think what we're biggest where been to that important, we renegotiating I three, stabilizing think doing cost we're So, make where and we've challenge, we experience done to with ensure customer

Pito Chickering

so Great. guys. much Thanks

Dan Greenleaf

accuracy payer point, in there's the like provide we like them different. product have be to just that been say, partners would centers mean, those been even relationship members, with it that the We gotten massively made Whether reports to been digitizing opportunities Historically, our improvements substantive even occasionally essences, now contact the partners, just about I company which the at XX%. think to running and of still still things provide improved. the the had data, above I our XX% network. is at this and service our quality encounter things the material. XX% of But state our have levels and customers we our reports, just improve. so the It's of we've we massively it's is and

Heath Sampson

now. With around a they that. that about payer us. large, it large the all We're And with grow their to they potentially as Medicaid business sample say in is a lot it half giving There it. more, on side, like primarily wants of of

Dan Greenleaf

Yeah.

Heath Sampson

grow want is because know and us. to And there. were We they know we're the reason with being performing,

think is can for starting we opportunity the payer our like the that's to initiative we why are, Bob's really this because start know market can every there MA to current grow we with growth, stuff we're winning big about this we know share opportunities exactly up, of competitor out we questions, where gaining where are base, where and go we that's we bids are, getting why stuff each we that coming year. exactly know to going us and because place That's within year a in the is with this talked Dan the put to year, do. So, NEMT, into

Pito Chickering

Great. much. Thanks so

Operator

proceed Brian line Jefferies. question from next with is question. Please with of Our your Tanquilut the

Brian Tanquilut

Congrats Good guys. morning, the quarter. on

Dan Greenleaf

Thank you, Brian.

Brian Tanquilut

many I PC. offerings Yes. Obviously Dan. guess I'll start, RPM, transport, guess with different four three about or -- Not we're RPM questions have the and thinking food, too you but -- for me, I that

what So, in you that there? you're or any kind the service us on details you MA has with like multiple of have that offering and penetration getting contracting traction opportunities around looked for can lines like interest unique you're share getting

Dan Greenleaf

incredible I the acquired states asset million Then, pieces care or needs is the that really the So, the There the we level The supportive to and transportation which when think out interest an no businesses and question. value that members and high relationships payers -- the with XX sampler. the to care, of gone one already Brian. you we've beauty million a do business XX this obviously, future our based our think relationships going from is with about had how is patients. was of

both they've is what last offering believe going at And at when about payers, And say and offerings the to me Anthem. gone results be record handle the with large we're and the be include think They've it's the record about way delivery. monitoring obviously, recently, will be. the XX% and should to think to two most the MA, piece, in have is say, to months. in monitoring say, lot come revenue very three going in there's the Brian that on of and both think attractive in coming I'd we there'll Healthcare several of MA is something the opportunity our a five lot be remote payer for weeks, you a I look over So, remote is -- Medicare. include future Midwest a them remote of as ask out. United that's certainly to monitoring pilot next going they the about high others to look a underway on personal on I We large do out with that's in to the care, going going and going very transportation, to meal we include Anthem record months, last gone

we the well-positioned. doing stuff this really we're what about Brian, record Anthem one So, fastening United were that either on I Advantage And is Medicare all think that population felt before, they needed. what's or

Brian Tanquilut

different things? segments think I the that, Dan. to down the touch? Storm think should Project I they How Then that trickle Heath, appreciate I be for guess the margins you telling timing about How and those will initiatives we about thinking for Lightning. those

Heath Sampson

Yeah.

Storm for the -- Lightning. and So first for

our break that costs to costs the the were side get you side unit primarily into Stormy, and we it side. happens are macro The of was categories. out. The OpEx within center. able what That the Those For then majority with contact out. two OpEx

allowed We've BPO, reduce by technology have our anywhere onshore that's headcount around to XX%. offshore. factor implemented us We XX%

on through get are Storm So, the that see the costs to had starting a out operations language challenges We're that our and We context to in off. now. finish perspective. from

we're reducing headcount can, and Now site. now our right wait, know I I on that

Dan Greenleaf

Yes.

historically low The these around we've centers as been bringing any as XX%, had if at call rates point of what middle was get in is of range; was just is it's it's we've this also at -- this centers of are perspective, about in at Brian, like and we indication lot a the any the which, during attrition and reason and how lot at up my things COVID, attrition COVID, for if the market, high favorable. our X%. I'd amazing. side, I absenteeism. things dramatic happening a seeing the very little that XXX% think call done looking month again, things the but I also transformed just side, And much that is been company the XX%. labor of think seen One we're [Indiscernible] extremely the of and of I'm indication it thought of perspectives on centers what The from believe we're labor seeing January, model -- we've doing, changes we're on it as we've different it's pretty from indicative, happening labor what's the a call out the We're labor our that I absenteeism

Brian Tanquilut

plans geographic that or Western about Jason, Pennsylvania on that. as think appreciate for How footprint I Florida I question, should expansion areas health going then last business. be your comments the my And guess for we forward, home thinking other your about about? geographic you're I thinking

Jason Anderson

question. That ZIP-code-by-ZIP-code approach, in, markets. looking of competition in we're a Thanks at at so demand kind markets sort looking the the for of we're density those in

we're there's contained that So the it to focus operations. applications market to right that we'll sense if makes really the sense. it we own makes If going from and perspective. evaluate that currently we're present markets penetrate continue opportunities logically, that, to have on them in But beyond now, themselves

Heath Sampson

as said the in we're the relatively really well, new up going the tag other based to what novo in. also in that also a on locations is just to markets, in But he on item is we're to the state. us allow this close. grow communities and know, from dense, in but these set this You and office we're -- Jason, we're are the add a we're strategy locally said will And that within that strategy what on current maybe opening little bit community-based, an to and more to Jason out further that

So those two things firm. your together as for priority the

Dan Greenleaf

for this zip zip state so about not why only a And business. much. a thing business, locations specific in say clarification, these is would guys the to And it codes necessarily it's is matter the just I Home code having the

a But code think on and not zip so, state where understand as just go. of to that amount also tremendous business, need is I are want truly again, and we that to a this clarity a make everybody Jason where And I around business. we

Brian Tanquilut

Thanks, it. Got guys.

Dan Greenleaf

Brian. you, Thank

Heath Sampson

Thank you.

Operator

comes of proceed Street from question Brooks Capital Lake next question. Our the Please, Markets. line with O'Neil your with

Brooks O'Neil

a have Thank I morning, questions too. you. couple of guys. Good

First, detail more I was hoping the you on might provide just a little true-up.

that us contracts. to as was help a EBITDA capitated you of the Can impact? just understand sense or adjusted that that I as for amount sure Can to adjusted true-up? affect mentioned me related EBITDA dollar revenue be the You just give you well

Heath Sampson

not one well, -- the with it's uncommon have this contracts for -- we The

Brooks O'Neil

Right.

Heath Sampson

have. [Indiscernible]. to every redoing whether what's redo -- that, sheet, them you When the deck we every those, the of that we and reset with clear on cycle years, currently the take so balance three income.

and happened, that's every a what's happens So that's time. that practice common

said we the the what our adjusted EBITDA call that more NEMT probably there in closer amount is in the script. QX, So, this line we with was said why and was to is on

million So, few a dollars there.

Brooks O'Neil

help competency how common and colleagues Lyft coming guys us drive much driver some but Uber you I of you article like challenges driver, relative Lyft Then training me how Can who to the and view helpful. the of sounds to the business face. Uber you not to sent and use more. the knows That's understand about network guess my NEMT car, what and an they Okay. into the his

Dan Greenleaf

discount of mean, around and I pathogens. And improprieties -- it's through providers training around to our could an what We be -- organization with blood It the door, -- extensive we partnered and listen, And handle here to got It it's whole Brooks, either credentialing going in you take too. or requirement also that if And awareness this. put to obviously a you're is, to do we to not. look it. extensive borne be through around COVID. terms our people transportation standpoint, a part training it of from deeply point go out, door could support somebody we sexual also like. network, training to be could have how

to is So have locations the safety we our members be transportation issue in for there's with also And somebody an to our that who the TP. can provider advisors always if there patient, call. also

have our Academy instances talked a what I've partnership or to think is of our as be, model, event the through, So, not unique really transportation still there's that. we In providers. lot That's does has they what we different, related going stuff model. describe the how could forward of it's A view of we are happen their we why would something That's TNC just around partner. believe put training community-based ModivCare it about extensive. good which side. these would That or support that very going model. put different also much a we in have is But do. we a right is the been It's certain our I in happen, providers transportation than to we're there potentially just said, our model the network the very their it's all being aspect by they

Heath Sampson

guys amount specific you know, don't TNC, quickest there two time. get they're if minutes, And your this, those little Uber for you a so going on incented more the or have highest not Lyft to specifically you're model, leave. to the dollar unless within, [Indiscernible] the are the you get at Uber drivers

people are That's on For take we be not longer, that serve may or they elderly, their that confused sick model. location. they may

is -- That the So really is they item point put Mrs. It's to is specific wait out lift I driver in to for Mrs. think structure that's day Smith competing properly between another about, Smith table. their on make to a should Not every a different I sure for different. themselves different that can or food way. model. totally

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Brooks O'Neil

ask to then last just No, excited that's very Jason. helpful. I'm I And question, -- my wanted particularly

Dan Greenleaf

Hey, Brooks. model, -- too this is On

Brooks O'Neil

Sure.

Dan Greenleaf

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contact transportation. are contact these why is anywhere. centers these so going this why are having to centers So, not important accessing And

what where to going yes, the the member meet day-to-day again, is we're matters And different use the are than most because we of different matters, part experienced that, that's so, are. model And I we very just, -- touch members believe have but very a us so they our and tech of too, is much high why modalities this

Brooks O'Neil

color. appreciate that total Makes I sense.

over Advantage, business. in Jason, reimbursement I broadly, Obviously, patient and sense a a -- So, that significantly. you been in experience guess, of little across bit background. is rates improved My for able country to about the excited I'm Medicare particularly see lot. have the maybe to the couple the scored physicians, might you you Can about the and particularly just more remote monitoring Thanks that next that your growth be talk experience opportunity years?

Jason Anderson

because for etc. state is business there built managed Thanks on been that the focusing physician rates benefited plans has networks, today. The managed business industry, from has consolidation with Yes, Medicaid, for use. reimbursement health to people been and We going frankly, providers, Medicare, to and on health a Brooks. who on been market. core focus has so hospitals, really around this in built continue plans quite us There's question. around Medicaid. that which perspective and the that the they're service choose penetrate asking has partnering And improving partner certain The

market of begin We experienced to as beginning continue as as MCO some and advantage MA networks future. But with is penetrate we reimbursement growth penetrate have plans and the leaving rates. build some network of business. to the to be And today, take those or penetration, we believe would physician route with continuing far an another that and -- physician really the in

Brooks O'Neil

mean, to care, with that support MA I them monitor appetite my incentive All there, MA patients what diagnose that out value-based plan you and see these a makes own them seeing the sense. from plans correctly, growth and sense over these have is massive are and the providers? that, of you support that that

Jason Anderson

Yes. are. is interact to Then trust months much as well the those have The Brooke, engaging claims, the this We're a done as or what I'd that they survey a month, numbers information monitoring we prior patient is sometimes quarters us lagging on really a number of remote allows month. down it with times better have is that's them them what build with that relationships prior. with you comes real-time to than

expenses built will go our them provide EX the relationships for future past in the business real-time segments. also a to the health members information impacts, around to we trusted medical have we've the different back care, with to that plan of solution which we've with throughout adapts create period. plan, allows That's able we're our So resonates, and talked actually

personal us monitoring, to business, the So going within add value transportation, it's the care. significant health to whether care deals, the back to that's or allow

is that is where so And definitely everything going today.

Brooks O'Neil

for a Thanks color. your lot

Operator

you. Thank

line of Please from proceed your Barrington today with questions. question the final with is Mike Research. Our Petusky

Mike Petusky

NMTE, A that of that I'm revenue meal is would sort in where things. of morning. booked couple Good right? is the assuming go not delivery, on gets that that any or Dan,

Dan Greenleaf

correct. That's

Mike Petusky

there that Okay. start Is might at which to point terms at I there number that? in At it? of that? do a which mean, quantifying talking you point to a what is about do

Dan Greenleaf

that business and going major building it this won't several year up because say so we're But there Yeah. payers, with [Indiscernible]. be we're ramping the we're contracts with

Mike Petusky

on this of I sort a of have I two what some terms maybe jumping am talk reports G&A All you of right. can this. And sort -- in that missed the there normalized commentary may and morning give increase and for run what's the going between expense, But 'XX in would around sorry. about sense then be. rate

Dan Greenleaf

invest that building any to what in The now G&A And still, and too, future. reduce legacy tech need we're expenses in related need in then technology. you've platforms bulk we this right even to legacy especially technology build the for increases the business heard our before business the a The lot of -- -- in to debt. of this

So we're over our that's this Board two went do the going with to weeks with we primary our technology We as through this and our around ago, we're driver when we expect what plans, that, doing we be for that. in finish just reducing get expense off.

So I peak. think we've hit the

'XX go as get reduce 'XX. then to going a company and we're Now synergies as we broader into and

Mike Petusky

this run rate? Can ask, is the I I mean,

Heath Sampson

a year. a -- G&A correct. rate rest for run From of perspective, from So, for is our this XXXX that's yeah, this the

Mike Petusky

Alright, that's I Thanks. got. all

Dan Greenleaf

Thank you, Mike.

Operator

this question-and-answer closing for session, over remarks. time, At of the turn will end our I reached you. Dan call Thank we've and to the Greenleaf

Dan Greenleaf

Yeah.

you have thank you The again a back participating for day. to look to quarter our our Relations financial all, release please when XXXX of We on we First Thank to this Group. first follow And you in reporting reach forward all results. in interest call Equity a out and our morning. scheduling up your if Investor call, good May firm,

Operator

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ModivCare (MODV) 25 Feb 222021 Q4 Earnings call transcript