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Operator

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Genworth Financial’s fourth quarter 2019 earnings conference call. My name is Derek and I will be your coordinator today. At this time, participants are in listen-only mode.

We will facilitate a question and answer session towards the end of this conference call.

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Kelly Groh

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Operator

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go with comes KBW. Please Our Ryan from question Krueger first ahead.

Ryan Krueger

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Tom McInerney

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Ryan Krueger

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Tom McInerney

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Ryan Krueger

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Tom McInerney

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Ryan Krueger

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Operator

Thank you.

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Joshua Esterov

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Tom McInerney

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Joshua Esterov

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Tom McInerney

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Joshua Esterov

those the regulatory you thoughts appreciate very Really all Thank on front. much.

Operator

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Bill

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Tom McInerney

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Bill

very you. is thank Understood, This helpful.

you the still at actuaries? where this is at the in So than are the top, This process, approval actuaries to still is rather level?

Tom McInerney

actuaries I from would at it top through from goes and the top all say through the the it goes Genworth the York. staff New for

Bill

Thank you.

Operator

you. Thank

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Drew Figdor

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Kelly Groh

very the Groh. experience. question. Drew, emerging is about Thanks have say I Kelly would is this we just York What New really for

about Tom XX,XXX cumulative think I claims. mentioned

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your question? that Did answer

Drew Figdor

Yes, thank you.

Kelly Groh

you, Thank Drew.

Operator

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Himanshu Shah

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Tom McInerney

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Himanshu Shah

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Tom McInerney

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Tom McInerney

on I to minutes, over ran Himanshu, that. With bit all a of so that, we we say I a little wanted deal, want the there’s appreciate lot questions XX the investors, obviously to do - Please in to the discussions of I give want shareholders views Tim us Kelly who any happy some But or IR. to their contact with to take them. talk continue and are us. to Owens

to up call. then the sum it Derek just turn me Let to and back I’ll end

All questions investment in for you and of us at interest your Genworth your want thank and continued Genworth. to

China I’ve Oceanwide to working As we’re the said, close hard transaction.

move We stakeholders. for complete continue I and the and transaction, clear the best we to to be the want what forward duty prepared value that the to outcome most fiduciary shareholders, other matter and board other if said we take believe also alternatives, pursue. can’t having maximize are today team our all the to evaluating But and outcome shareholders our management of and the it’s no that, we with certain very I to seriously ultimate

call the you. turn back to I’ll Derek, that, With

Operator

for Thank call this fourth will you. this conference do and participation. call. you time, earnings Financial’s gentlemen, We your concludes thank Ladies the quarter Genworth At end.

Genworth Financial (GNW) 5 Feb 202019 Q4 Earnings call transcript