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Operator

Greetings and welcome to Ready Capital Corporation’s First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host Mr. Andrew Ahlborn, Chief Financial Officer. you. Thank

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Andrew Ahlborn

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Tom Capasse

to earnings Ready you and Capital thank quarter is morning off XXXX. strong in for a call. joining first our start Good

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up excess and $XXX Additionally, originations our million. money April of $XXX is in totaled million, current pipeline in

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pent to a to off year due from small post-COVID up Our SBA also are operations start demand strong businesses. the for

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was the an Increased money is Although SBA over premiums, quarter-over-quarter $XX pipeline XX% volume attractive April $XXX equal quarter million up by $XX production which first averaged to is market complimented net in through XXXX. down million. million for have guaranteed and sale the originations

share billion strip outlook servicing beginning X(a) sale increased $XX with Now, our would to believe in current a we at terms gains, in future our premiums, strategy, billion increase commercial sell by market is real versus growth particularly market estate, lower of of we may a in market on the we’re keeping to where Similar projected loan our $XX revenue at secondary the X(a) strategy. markets franchise loans gaining higher in SBA This servicing the three-prong undervalued. strip.

hires, First and lending XX officer production to the loan in SBA has SBA business for is first talent the added actively increase SBA in the to recruited loans. demand the in quarter members team new space manage the

technology we’ve other in build calls, roll programs, the we’ve out programs, finally Knight with services to level program out and financial access hires affinity featuring under loans credit Capital on SBA to with are score small to FinTech discussed prior senior we program. And companies made Second our approved is $XXX,XXX system. extension, continue providing program investing X(a) our as via affinity loan

second continue leading round four million. expect Knight $XXX have of we over enabled months. us our exceed to is quarter non-bank combined to to our share grow active billion April Through two be the participants of XX, PPP round PPP in loans over in $X.X a likely market SBA last originated has to two. as license SBA lender volume Capital and Our goal with

of has loans an at businesses focus size originated XX,XXX $XX,XXX. been loan average Our with helping smaller on

approved As goals. Ready PPP limit its with achieving of target authority Capital reached X, May had its

have going will benefit production origination and for business front-end Our the from a go-forward and on accelerating, PPP, efficiency SBA capabilities basis forward. technology built we

quarter, mortgage declining additional and $X.X due XXX the our rising in a the in competition. billion, elevated to turning as points quarter to compression basis remain business, to margin cyclical points XXX Now rates originations resulted first expected residential basis at

few will few holding margins the we volume origination a to due next near quarterly over margin Notably approximately to purchase the on pre-COVID decline higher focus demand. value favorably expect levels. as XX% our with forward. from volume value are our to from In industry quarters and quarters, current the rates we cyclical a channels, metrics compare expect run in rate in ramp Over benefiting production to per continued last in million strategy MSR recovered and servicing share which depreciation, as housing increases the rights results $XX book mortgage environment, retaining head our boosted expect going which result of we

including of and agency the our added at $XXX $XXX million operation The Anworth conjunction bringing equity want over million thank generating the million previously transition RMBS and MBS operations, pipeline. transaction origination be welcome of in billion to Anworth liquidity. shareholders. non-agency team merger seamlessly. lower day-to-day $X.X liquidated of liquidating objectives, management the of level go-forward common the in the the market Beyond remaining dilution we our transaction XX% and communicated. and of close securities The close successfully to also billion the a helping current $XXX acquisition We with some post-closing completed than assets will for Anworth to the We’ve successfully $X was company and preferred executed cap

stable company. delinquencies like the loss yet differentiated plus in that portfolio $X.X loans currently billion, commercial at XX-day remained total to portfolio book of consists Our highlight The source be of in stable – our company. to continues small of performance credit with we revenue to the experience X.X%. inception X,XXX balance realized and holding new our portfolio since I origination would the a have originations in new for

mechanics CRE and dividend, our core for in grow outlook SBC on earnings businesses. government sale $X.XX the quarter of and and separate function first margin net sponsored our we of We core stability of distributions capital was for of of our from redeployment dividend interest continue the in $X.XX a clear acquisition. terms and gain combination Anworth with the In to from $X.XX our merger revenue the segment

production dividend investment from Andrew XX along SBA our discuss annualized XXX% results. in the Anworth I’ll dividend PPP increases that, with last be deferred $X.XX. will have normalized company’s of revenue rate. Capital deployment to covered in Future in With of the turn financial and Over to over core forward dividend our determining included of it CRE SBC months, quarterly earnings the tailwinds

Andrew Ahlborn

you, earnings consecutive earnings and GAAP million distributable of earnings distributable distributable a per With morning, respectively. XX% $X.XX good fourth return our and Thank $XX.X we’ve XX.X% everyone. for and surpassed share Tom, quarter. the equities were and $X.XX on target

volumes and fees was to was quarter Our SBA sale to million trend Adding gain on is servicing portfolio continued of of asset. quarter-over-quarter to our reflective SBA grew is in earnings servicing originations lows, the our related servicing interest and rose and expense banking loan warehouse in of operations. stable our Anworth due quarter to to the recent our production. realized non-recurring higher X(a) COVID from Interest result Mac borrowings XX% performance increase portfolio, a $X.X gain to mortgage to our in of is gains residential considered leverage the related million as Freddie as income operations, be earnings originations. cycle the should operations well securitization incurred in the towards due of our a sale loan reflective due increased the $X.X short-term Interest grow normalization in in profile operations. and million acquisition. from our in growth due the fund in accretion from growth PPP $X.X our profile the efforts to in PPP lower which increase Net slightly the revenue, fund on XXX,XXX our PPP as short-term quarter balances borrowings expense and to

first declines which to quarter guidance these were due slowed the SBA received in mentioned, Tom updated February, pipeline. anticipated As

gain revenue. were the reduction partially be end the run expected increased is offset higher Freddie production increased SBA our business sale by was XX%. expect through and in business gain SBA guaranteed quarterly We to on in to on XX% revenue of increase Mac the our sale QX rate A

banking back elevated last increased as margins which Margin due as servicing volume, $XX.X declines As the normalization quarter. million. well income levels recovery to which asset, record earnings remained at half by the the of of of $X the offset mortgage in our indicated first down the million by was value were call, in in the

significant the source Although earnings, appreciation not book in expect we included quarters. of value be increases in to a go upcoming the in valuation MSR forward distributable

earnings, While how included highlighted. were related income is being pleased our recognized? The several was are originations PPP In our that quarter, should quarter we distributable to in in be round for items quarter the originations one-time related equals there largest with the Total two of and of $XX.X million net future fees will to million. in was $X.X be to PPP PPP deferred periods. $XX.X recognized net related million which the income

quarters prior $X.X round the recognition interest from first quarter round from income due million of million income of recognition both production The million of $XX production. of was deferred fee two expenses of to $X.X and by offset two incurred

$XXX end of This million. will on key income our a income, few improvements our XXXX portfolio the capitalization. the increased the interest addition quarter, since million be to loans The first the to was and points of in change balance carry income. a in and in quarterly to excess Additionally, by the PPP we’ve activities the merger XX portfolio completion of through items, growth efforts sheet due of in expect the including Anworth accrete origination $XXX originated driven pretax net basis in to total produce PPP

net due payments to to which represents originations and portfolio, loan The remained our of in increase Our grew level the weighted rates, expect million $XXX to coupon portfolio portfolio in XX% historical maturities. $XXX average principal we in with rate floating in XX% the total. X.X% at highest rising and of margins its million

which key of In the cost asset XXX had liability we XX% overall addition to growth, points. to basis funds reduce side, our several transactions on

million of debt completion The CLOs$XXX basis lower advance to the first costs XXX XX% XX%. increased CRE deal to points was our and rates from fifth

non-mark-to-market to the for the remarks. $XXX warehouse Next, to invest forward. in accretive And increase our X.X% These turn closed over core in million more our pursue three we sheet and scale, going existing to and operations, bond now conservative earnings and balance strategies. at both growth to facility we it our both be acquisition Tom will operations. our $XXX financing to to executed lower baby loan closing bonds support I quarters to costs last redeem baby efforts a support will million five and

Tom Capasse

Andrew. Thanks,

diversified that, across and investments We continue to questions. believe output earnings platform that differentiated our across our provides of up and we’ll operating open the from embedded companies. markets now for line stability With

Operator

your with line of question Instructions] Please question. BTIG. [Operator with comes Tim from first Hayes Our proceed

Tim Hayes

good morning strong quarter. Congrats Hey, guys. on another very

in Sounds for trending like things all are right direction the you.

the loans you’re you out how earnings, sheet? point balance of the it recognizing line you relates on little the – on those have stay helpful, a like talk will is relates some think context sheet, was cost. just on certain to we going is it that be a kind – basis of But time be a we’ll be, gross over as if lumpy? us like period, that how would Andrew be the of as economics spread, to net balance I and loans should to give helpful? about if that I can straight is might going guess And to long Just to that PPP schedule carry it think then the those XX recognition

Andrew Ahlborn

to over six the I Yes, going be Tim. Hi, quarters. accreted is of to it four majority think

you That timeline. correlate into the report the moves. a highly the is from to sort of velocity at the one points the carry, recognition should basis If which quarter six upon portfolio of how forgiveness look will that production. dependent be XX of round And

majority choppy that’s the will the income I overwhelming be next a little around when six So, this But think won’t be profile four over expectation be to through earnings will quarters. the straightlined, recognized. it the of

Tim Hayes

have been longer But of at PPP last that. have a economics I about, idea And next public targeting of a higher number on you’ll think get and quarter, target Okay. than little think give ROE that. of then, of I you’ve the us an you bit an of Or you since Got But before don’t you your you’re maybe that half? XX% whether kind end achieve the was able once that last mind, even it. you’ve can ROE recognizing inclusive exact target quarter, for, talked ROE guys that and think a company, in around tell put over you no you mentioned it. that ever if you to the just is becoming year other be the something kind the and earnings? a

Tom Capasse

CRE, we a in, SBC to Yes, I so sponsored I from SBA our step and think the what please, high looking intensive we’re business, that? operating basis our more of points – residential core and ROE acquisition singles, think kind a but Andrew capital and at then origination business, the gain from banking, add on would XXX-ish secondary another, market of companies, you mortgage sale if income the government Mac, Andrew have Freddie

Andrew Ahlborn

our that’s our think outlook, when at is know, I requires grow And I capabilities right. we look little equity. X(a) really our business very SBA to goal that

we accretive production And basis. an there, are highly as returns, so ROE those on increase

on focused we’re in platform. investing putting So, that

to we’ll a we invest several front and front end success. this to technology the in continue As hired people think customer I and end experience Tom year, that mentioned, better make

Tim Hayes

Okay.

a post of, kind in and should you sounds targeting still is world? that PPP like it to XX% So what XX% be range maybe

Andrew Ahlborn

Correct.

Tim Hayes

SBC attributable of loans kind run Okay. record expanding you since the versus, to quarter, was for inception? run – your much just the And of products mill that this normal you’ve then, originating originations guys, very out that that how of been of SBC strong

Tom Capasse

obviously Well, a market the been – commercial is of this kind it relate real of – of secular COVID. estate to lot in shifts related a I’ve number

rates COVID. XXXX, lower benefits loan in multifamily, better to particular a bridge, that for and we them costs. then able And target, instead, a that a did sponsors them higher industrial stabilized to increase was that sell of time were during we in much LTV And to with gives would decline and So, we have otherwise successfully, and on opted such strong what loan. pivoted sponsors, stabilize occupancy the it exit

part – of bridge was kind will. that yes, you that bridge a designed we if So product light. stabilizer was of and a around light, sorry, that I’m

business. So team, demand it’s that COVID the kind of to product of existing targeting capture our lines combination tweaking from and

Tim Hayes

to weigh CLO? the know that still on? collateralized I of is – product, many that it. I by know mean, you or other SBC get some maybe wondering I of type but same CRE Are tighter originations little origination ROE the how this versus a of there bit the to the that quarter compared that you’re doing, stuff your ROEs that loans. of was spread it’s imagine the just so got able product? a Okay, that did on their how I don’t light other

Tom Capasse

we’ve pricing an volatility. correct with yes, I at this but higher generally balance compression still tighter, there’s to lower if pre-COVID? secondary XXX margin ROE basis lower yes, to than been bit compares ROE we’re reach say adjusted on blended in executed would have multifamily XX versus market space. I’m and were larger points loans where market basis, favorably XXX, the we’ve and about where Well, XXX is quarter, Andrew, loss wrong, that execution much a I our say But seen it we would on me in been program [ph] but middle and a that basis, the little And, looking definitely maybe what more

Tim Hayes

Well, this taking morning. helpful. my color. for the questions Appreciate thanks That’s

Tom Capasse

Thanks, Tim.

Andrew Ahlborn

Tim. Thanks,

Operator

Our next JMP the question Steve with comes your proceed from question. Please DeLaney with Securities. of line

Steve DeLaney

a but not my transaction. listen, Tom a Andrew. really morning, But deal, was, on the it congrats your part. a large, Anworth huge Good Thanks. on brilliant quarter, also And not capital mind, the it and play was in

and to for So, up the strengthen the company helping your process. thank industry in roll you

wiped are the resi diversification mortgage is means. you you’ve focus, issues rocket, a of on the I competition, the everybody. that it’s large any find watching interesting its despite your So, just rates, think at same we’ve the originators is by so to get depot GMFS, week got out purchase on company loan high about your been that if you this platform, pure-play beauty not but And will the

REIT, that might So, REIT broaden adding originator. Thank see over lend is to you’re REIT and of whether not in platform we saw mortgage yesterday themselves further. the if year you securitization, another today any product by out bolt-on you. anything a Credit or products there. even might in a we just your interest find, I’m your there line specialty something that to next curious products mortgage that credit forte, is two And a are which

Tom Capasse

like Florida look bolt-ons, Yes, know, business always Knight SBA it given accretive a always PPP, things Then looking the at be looking add we’re with then that’s at. run our technology more the looking we’re and SBA example, for secured they business, by is looking syndicated the crushed will track similar we’re so I business. levered round in I’d expansion just looking for news down of it’s at silos. and that’s acquired, Capital residential you of now competitive record mean, other the for tax into for other as small think, that a overlay the the impact credits, the out component like affinity our commercial of based side, and of one on aspect that so thing two it, I One looking – the agency bolt-ons we’re business, in say our also acquisitions, group business niches going, would that investment at technology you’re

which small SBC, is true $X million million. to commercial, a balance $X.X We’re

for at looking which towards going example. heavy providing We’re to single-family credit has SFR, commercial, downstream a potentially micro, weighting

other looking is that, remember, example. at the And as build call And refer which more expansion had lender the going so is loans [ph], recovers, another swath in would at two housing, a things then we’re we resimercial continued because we’re space. Europe, bridge which I on Ireland, of and broad we manufactured a as arrangement in the to with well, commercial the the say, a products, flow lot is that’s broaden reinstating looking we’re other market within what

the standpoint, capital we’re debt additional the yes, an those on position looking So the recourse currently, into we unsecured incremental for Yes. have redeploy equity, definitely the with we that the two looking strong with have, are definitely liquidity ability not Anworth, but we to silos. lever just

Steve DeLaney

full widescreen sounds Great. the like out where you’ve a of opportunities got are. there Well,

Tom. color, So thanks for that

Tom Capasse

Okay.

Steve DeLaney

I’m good.

Operator

question next with proceed comes Please with your Rahmani KBW. from Our Jade question.

Jade Rahmani

wondering reasonable Thank $X.XX to declared? was much. you the dividend And very be if I on it’s to full expect quarter dividend, a

Andrew Ahlborn

part the time board, dividend I from earlier, think PPP has at distributed income that be mentioned Tom as normalized the run Jade income of our to the of accreted. looking rate sort is over

And on of on ourselves So, next reinvested of business, the in outlook how the of the for based to that a rest forward that then, position sure that most in I – and over sort business is much $X.XX into dividends off I is the floor the the drive, of quarters. future. revenue would likely the few do good back say, for the place $X.XX. PPP that’ll moving And depending go

[indiscernible]. I think $X.XX is

Jade Rahmani

are mortgage is one rate rate Declared of spread don’t I BDCs. dividends also think dividend But and that commercial company distributable dividend. the they run a And ahead a dividends. the given a managed regular their potential Thanks. that running compression, as wanted manages by to change earnings supplemental current

distinguishing characteristic, that that something So, you consider? might they introduced is

Andrew Ahlborn

I Tom. go ahead, think. Yes,

Tom Capasse

due was private I bridge compression debt that a $XX out, And that really during last And million an the wiped that in say quarter kind that’s funds larger seeing that plus year first from we’re like loans. more that’s in margin sorry, that’s influx of strategy Andrew, upscale us, definite gotten coming of case, single had back. more, again, CRE. going

keep that So, distribute More you because margin. reduce tactical normalized increase I the have have dividend to you of lower then dividend margin the have earnings, that’s due where more compression. not core the and in think to that’s to situation a to the it

continued from quarters that and SBA and in SBC increase Anworth situation, a not the and Andrew – the particularly an we’re Capital So, have the normalization earnings said, we where and over our business. deployment other as the of in see PPP businesses, we a we’re in XX situation the

us. view apply of my that’s So not situation, and to that does how it

Jade Rahmani

Thanks.

in forbearance? constant of the give that compared or CRE I at credit, that of I how you book know, were in percentage that noticed bucket delinquencies the XX-day color And the you non-accrual? are X.X%. percentage with And loans quarter? on delinquency plus the any last on XX-day on said Could Just loans

Andrew Ahlborn

can and Andrew you? Adam,

Adam Zausmer

Yes. Hey, portfolio. on the Yes, it’s our forbearance only this so side. of on total X.X% CRE is loans Adam

from loans than it’s loans on that is accrual then forbearance less performance remains just think been a perspective a I X.X% XX% and about non-accrual. had plus current

Jade Rahmani

very much. Thanks

Andrew Ahlborn

Thanks, Jade.

Tom Capasse

Thanks, Jade.

Operator

Our next comes Stephen your question James. line from the Raymond with of question. proceed Please Laws with

Stephen Laws

Hi, Very a quarter comments. appreciate you of things wanted good morning. nice covered to number the and

are things quickly lot came to non-agency there Can as the the that the they sold able sorry, to side On the as South that well Anworth your whether about of to liquidate SFR assets Anworth certainly, think grow? talk with looking or you’re Florida with something a maybe be assets. intention a agency some opportunistically – securities. down I on portfolio those non-MBS to had came you going do type other

Tom Capasse

available the resi very liquidation there? SBC of just, liquidation say credit core terms the for targeted the But just, would we Andrew what’s there, the ROE that and the but strength I those the you of the demand our broader excess housing assets given portfolio of have can comment because current that market is Andrew, strong is in disposition, target and the potential for liquidity strategy base. the I on for is but in I

Andrew Ahlborn

that there’s RMBS, REO, alluded liquidating well end. some as We quarter mean, And the loan $XXX as that remains a I since sheet you down the $XXX balance million. we’re to million in million around what the quite portfolio brought non-agency that’s $XX bit. is a of the process Yes, of roughly

think book on I of move those the conjunction that redeployment. plan the short out of REO to the in the to rest RMBS on So, with and and the in then loan is order liquidate

that our it’s liquidity, we of effect of the come as happens And remaining the already generated liquidity the top over of sometime sort but that’ll we those natural three quarters assets. on two, off not just so only next reinvest liquidity

I the quarterly end So, through year. it’s think of liquidation the

Stephen Laws

early But with that’s not that and liquidation too. on something

rates can just what GMFS, margin a talk yesterday? mortgage sector volumes news this in those given on seeing the given that April on touched you you’re Steve around bit how to and the but front, the mortgage have Okay. increase there, trended in little and,

Andrew Ahlborn

Yes.

million. remained April above in originations $XXX So

So, mentioned really we sort monthly Tom But haven’t seen margins are pre-COVID no hanging our a in earlier, run drastic as around levels. in rates. change

Stephen Laws

Great.

Lastly delinquency on SBA a QX a in day presentation, lot looks of think your is – the And looking have quite the and number I’m that at it I probably like segment. the sure in page eight declined doesn’t XX plus Can segment? was. us give how that of and of was my improvement what’s not idea impacted that the trending, those loans an bit that you that’s performance And where driving question.

Adam Zausmer

Yes, this sure. Zausmer. is Adam Hey,

of just to the current So, for in majority started Act to qualified there’s February, up as prior SBA eight payments then X,XXX up loans really of it. well. deferments some also SBA keeping CARES those The month. a of loans one originate second pandemic payments three for the hotels months is there months and of to payments But That’s the XXXX. and then additionally and qualified automatic in restaurants

Stephen Laws

comments this taking Great. Appreciate Thanks my there. the questions morning. for

Adam Zausmer

Sure.

Operator

Christopher question Ladenburg with proceed comes Please Nolan Our your with question, the of line from Thalmann. next

Christopher Nolan

an of, on Tom and smaller like of or is sort forth program a follow-up down your, your question this like to so it’s on for you’re market on direction earlier technology to going and the, lending to become affinity using in you’re something strategic one the more trying of advantage. apps like where terms club to loans

Tom Capasse

to SBA applied measured in that’s the being way, the of is these – the kind material It’s unsecured smaller estate. Really continue typically XXX,XXX it’s lending, accept a do larger gross really used not call to more real loan to program, SBA, loan context we XXX in equipment. but accelerated small loans. the a more portfolio. where we credit what that’s used a what not SBA the for the of and versus percentage And but it’s, Yes, you where use score for underwriting allows of the total our to targeted

and technology to – a on program. based so that we’re end going that how front apply so And that’s take loan to that our

private a that’s that that – decisioning They that. applying SmartBiz quicker acquisition company cost, it’s does and lower to referring the same loans but a actually unsecured So of below on that the underwriting called do actually micro bit customer XXX, there’s what you’re side. to little

Christopher Nolan

and others. you like And loans you with package then just Right. then securitize them the

Tom Capasse

go X(a) They the Yes. into right pools. SBA

So real to more supposed as diversified being they’re – less our because pool estate.

I the more say incremental with let’s SBA diversification $XXX,XXX, X(a) has better of in have, prepays, premium justify secondary $XXX,XXX our a pool which Andrew what might market. stable there and in This been average third think loans balance space? increase being running the the would smaller

Christopher Nolan

put it, of fine type Is it it’s sort niche estate on of really roll out but to pilot sort of other Not things isn’t just – or a understand we’ll a small. say that, and pilot like for I program it’s sectors, point just application? a real of to too this a

Tom Capasse

is his regulatory at within Officer, being obviously out as our team Taylor Adam commercial are the runs this program, looking context Gary a Operating to said, but are actually It space and Chief roll niche or the the of well. looking SBA with program the credit that we to

Christopher Nolan

to operating affect much real the Okay. XXXX? And expenses going to express in this of terms is

Andrew Ahlborn

$X from maybe a No, million aside in would incremental the specialist because revenue the expense. there’s SBA given the hiring far of for expenses, handful to not business. incremental million maybe margins underwriters $X.X – profit outweigh total because The

Christopher Nolan

Great.

me. for it That’s Okay. Thank you.

Andrew Ahlborn

Chris. Thanks,

Operator

Howlett B. with proceed from your Riley. comes Please question. of question line next with Matthew Our

Matthew Howlett

All question. right, taking for my guys. Thanks

and strip you can seen decision color – of more you’ve in which to then market? on a going on retain the to little have give more premium expect SBA? So the the servicing what forward, Just

Tom Capasse

point said Andrew my going SBA recapture and as recapture coverage strong at its at in of the some valuation we points greater XXX our always to excess business par perspective, thing cordings we’re another have markets, achieve intensive if capital it’s, in if though, other where volumes, from to undertake let I’ll But we with. we to SBC concerns sell that valued at maybe look we comment. the from business, would know instead our strip, flow at by the you that terms it premium cash And hundred is a to prepayments to and I certain for also point on capture let’s the in business that. basis selling, that’s the of of a value SBA extend don’t from fifth for XX mispriced, strip. stream duration is say would IO business. capture overall there’s add the to look strategy way at Andrew, don’t we perspective an strip agree And years of

Andrew Ahlborn

that’s No, it.

Matthew Howlett

that or they’re And on I small affordability about to you the then the that rest doing stuff. of that. think how of obviously production balance Can mission-driven guidance just in terms outlook And outlook year? Freddy some give appreciate on and what on the

Tom Capasse

in Yes, of Adam, because a maybe, Adam Freddy the credit outlook? what from perspective, views that are terms your Adam, manages

Adam Zausmer

exceed is Yes, of up the certainly There’s sure. numbers. Obviously – extremely United going on their remains Freddy a demand rate the for fronts. expectation production They far strong. lot driven affordable movement there’s to mean, to housing and continuing ramp have mission on to XXXX States I side. targets we’re hit

$XXX me, million of something target. think SBL, in total origination SPL the is excuse I

Matthew Howlett

Do on you you? this you I of target tables? somebody Where mean, could Where on terms getting have in really a business. are just go? league just just a taking going

Adam Zausmer

certainly closer standpoint the think Yes, the we’re top to from probably five. sure. four between, seller today. services we’re – I And From

Tom Capasse

top goal kind Every three of time [indiscernible]. our that’s would be the

Matthew Howlett

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Tom Capasse

Okay.

Operator

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Crispin Love

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Tom Capasse

Yeah.

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Crispin Love

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Andrew Ahlborn

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Crispin Love

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Andrew Ahlborn

Yes.

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Crispin Love

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

any our like Capasse of question-and-answer for we’d end the the over reached we’ve back session. that to now with remarks. floor Mr. And closing And turn to

Tom Capasse

look please a the going with quarter’s forward pleased with And earnings we We’re and call. and next quarter tailwinds any to management strong to face forward reach out additional questions.

Operator

This concludes today’s teleconference.

You your time. this And participation. wonderful you may for at lines now have your disconnect day. Thank a

Ready Capital (RC) 7 May 212021 Q1 Earnings call transcript