BrightView (BV) 6 Feb 252025 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

Chris Stoczko	executive
Dale Asplund	executive
Brett Urban	executive
Timothy Mulrooney	analyst
Bob Labick	analyst
Greg Palm	analyst
Jeffrey Stevenson	analyst
Keen Fai Tong	analyst
Andrew J. Wittmann	analyst
Harold Antor	analyst
Alexander EM Hess	analyst
Carl Reichardt	analyst

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Operator

Good day, and welcome to BrightView's earnings call. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Chris Stoczko, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Chris Stoczko

Good morning, and thank you for joining BrightView's First Quarter Earnings Call. Dale Asplund, BrightView's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Brett Urban, Chief Financial Officer, are on the call. disclaimer. you can X our also contains safe refer the X website now our which presentation, be harbor will to and Slides of and I found on

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Dale Asplund

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Brett Urban

Thank to you, and Dale, good everyone. morning

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Dale Asplund

Thanks, Brett.

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Operator

Blair. [Operator Instructions] first William our Tim from And with Mulrooney question we'll take

Timothy Mulrooney

just maintenance land year. set on level this to want expectations growth organic I your for

Can expectation? growth you not a last into for to half in still the sometime -- we the you the your organic of bit mistaken. the talk inflect think in if just spoke, I Is trajectory land about expectation expected that territory time your growth? I'm second year, core positive core of this little

Dale Asplund

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to Brett, are land while structure. But like our key our we being growing and as do anything? is our that you our all committed So diligent our we've development, grown future, on it to and want target, hitting just overheads cost add business, to

Brett Urban

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momentum you So great. areas investing to into that up positive we're the in that territory. in And goes back our land other to now of building to see trajectory. that's start And positive fleet by, the that that ticking growth quarter drive been every

that the today year, here sitting half we great will the feel second growth. return [indiscernible] of we So

Timothy Mulrooney

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Dale Asplund

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every do So it Brett, excited. we Tim, month. for at to We're anything? and going keep you that's want We're building to going. But add momentum, look

Brett Urban

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of right our us to this before half is in taking invest sure fortified So start repurpose to in some customer trending year. retention but going sales, we to team has in and care our you're foundation towards that heavily to of we our make that direction, had of see dollars of customers back the been start sales the

Operator

from Our Labick Bob next will come CJS with Securities. question

Bob Labick

Congrats nice the on start a to fiscal year.

very you've So obviously, been showing strong EBITDA margin growth.

here. said X points I XXX quarters, I think straight you think it's basis

Looking future lift? the where over ahead, biggest to what quantify are X, don't the X can medium-term I next, know, margin you margins can years, outlook? And go components maybe

Dale Asplund

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that's what's exciting. many So so levers we pull. to Bob, have

We're look started. I we're getting And really just at margin months X are only probably the XX more like in. opportunity, if quarters expansion We in.

we points in the So the XXX still a listen and it, the what points lowest this, we last and to our I improvement story, as the add. can it Brett, to can we we guess basis built. of basis you momentum. how about how talked more Bob, going improvement, you quarters margin momentum but the to you because hate be expand let in months great, team is all do technology, several -- inevitably, that but then the as and some just we're well point XX time. just business is add first can and one much together our internally quarters, to visibility that keep XXX the even shows ability work say how Brett because dependency in And a want expansion. But well business anything development great get on growth a even I flow-through produce it X we're to gaining basis by maintenance field, to our hate use number our team we I'll it's driving I that And should our said and even

Brett Urban

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lowest year a we in expansion up a guide just Our you from XXX to structure want. of is we The margin if all basis business feel X great is points, where this put but in margin improvement, EBITDA place. cost great quarters, XX quarter mind, full XX it's about out standpoint. our Keep trending

Bob Labick

Is Or maintenance? share from where this years, in the come margin Is as don't the coming there X steal it of term? over market expansion is lion's development want much to coming from? mostly just do from to too equal Super. well? next it going opportunities? see expansion you from right. Are medium X, the I the more general, All XXth. But

Dale Asplund

the I that segments keys not One silos. both think our have to do BrightView, earlier, and business. one that's the of want of benefit those made Bob, all initiatives big We to former down will I walls, breaking

we business can our flow help of as we'll about, the maintenance much while we've all mean to So I development. on of we the those maintenance things support talked that scale, both and as really helping used development money centralize got size going on can business. to development and side, sides we us the could business. Any take advantage maintenance maintenance spend whole on to we do benefit hope levers both our we these our fleet to Anything improvement, all side. our segments, it's procurement

exciting, so EBITDA what forward. it's level So look it's to can and continue future like of not as our margin both benefit just work on Bob, drive you can that help both laying out business, when anything? segments that we start and long-term X we improve Brett, EBITDA because path it's

Brett Urban

going about and No, I going we're ahead don't of share the plan forward. the there would the many to revenue to what's but Investor opportunity agree. ahead. I X weeks. this We're so opportunities margin these such of get us path how steal as think and too much to thunder mean levers, in plan a you I want unlock expansion, to to growth from lot a have we are Day

And in basis saw my points over in just script, I QX begun. what benefits think XXX only the have you financial here margin I think of with expansion.

Operator

Group. Palm from Craig-Hallum Greg Capital will next Our come question with

Greg Palm

because to just progress that lately, labor to continued on a topic here. into on dig seems large maybe the a more be everyone's to wanted minds Congrats bit I you're employer. start a

concerns continue huge about? on So in you're availability, bunch putting terms curious, items can seeing reduce to of a of like worried And maybe turnover. what seems are any it you that help emphasis a inflationary you're I'm

a up these are just us So might end how all things understand doing competitive help advantage. being

Dale Asplund

a of It's we Good many Yes. that keep question. Greg. investors right our getting topic from now,

worth it's spending think this. minute I on So a

I about we just should First, think talking and step back study, labor.

that any administration. challenges them think happening. now with we like Let's things be We the developments new can are the pulled changes closely like right all is talk bonus were of following very substantial like the on benefit about we and with we things at are And everyone, the some there occurring And goodwill. to regulation come are tariffs from depreciation, and back, positioned that going well. tax

well. So positioned we are very

get is force. one you most the exactly our asked about the probably that and said we labor labor Now our what

So in seeing put we're we early trend the on presentation, frontline our our workforce.

with some you that Let things me seeing. just we're share

X with the Our of average employee company. years has frontline over tenure

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they for. company employees in, We better continue about our work shrink that come to see churn as new feel that the

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Brett Urban

on. Yes. right No, I think that's

if would X been to that have around given would significantly. feel think potential you market. reform nervous changes the our We than we coming question turnover ask Greg, confident this ago, employees little integration down a care coming it, or ever in of bit answer but more have years I labor more how we're taking that

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Greg Palm

there, you're question just revenue. I'm curious of then much any Appreciate And sense. And if is ancillary surrounds color. retention. second my you're makes that tied of How kind seeing seeing customer to Yes, what that yet. improvement

this big Just ramping a in trying with be of better land of sense of in how organic line accelerating that growth? returning least up a or terms to core to get of at lever expectation could

Dale Asplund

customers a more theme. trust highest let level Yes, simple Happy you discretionary the at work. do me to with start

to want longer additional retention, their customer So drive projects can they the talk your you about you to more the property. customers on the happier are,

of tell Investor It that a at was was another to first that And is Day. and correlated, across of -- storm bit there saw September share Greg. I that storms October hit couple XX. we storm lot first saw going was saw of you, data challenge little a hit we're there directly X. the quickly, from A in Florida. our hit everybody to would quarter, we hurricanes which the then developed, hit So

saw as come after there the cleanup they up one in. the people the X, and to first as October work second ready for got wasn't we paired while So from happening some didn't storm clean much

of a year-over-year we've we to some fact you But in now I ancillary headwinds So had actually well storm. returned ancillary. from have that would the we're basically showing XX%, in actually And minimis our stable X we've markets effect de level. on more X/X, over this, the seen majority right Greg, markets a we only tell

So keep the feel while land be we But to driving discretionary our impacted We by of ancillary of our year feel lowest half we're see return to -- weather. that quarter nature We positive all for most like the can markets, quarter customer revenue. But well feel anything? keep is going and fueling Brad, on positioned more Greg the this to spend retention. It's back great. it they have. the even markets

Brett Urban

momentum trusting momentum No, seen they customer a additional in which growth. would them more with translates customers retention. between building we've go and generally The us to the Dale's stay land highest longer to happier our to comment. I and us, the are, do work. There's direct correlation

Day, has on lot excited path business that correlation, the a a come we're about taken we'll lot So on to that more the more Investor and momentum share forward. the but

Operator

will Loop come Capital. from question Our Stevenson next Jeffrey with

Jeffrey Stevenson

Congrats nice on quarter. the

outsized the to ask as cadence the of your we with the drivers during And I think maintenance guidance? fiscal the compared annual margin quarter primary maintenance how were So move should expansion of wanted about margin what through expansion we 'XX?

Dale Asplund

Yes.

question, think great in is maintenance about XXX Obviously, quarter margin points year-over-year good the Jeff. results. that if basis expansion, So you

through better that quarter, reps together. That on our margin some quarter. That impact the business. year, putting many sales into our to call X by last for for quarter, months, our XX story overall significant make regional teams go-to-market by were drove everybody save our really changing the in and created carried over saw sure last which we the get the branch both development just restructured Now maintenance SG&A people structure have you're on the and overhead the in followed first this working

$XX SG&A our frontline that customers. to of had I've workforce about a areas work service into it roughly, giving frontline of the some we the not in back got labor. quarter. like save service million said hard time invested And enough X, Now different that day was that's our too do we that from on them of we to customer squeeze to and the problems trying lot

it that are our better, No the it's by you high through as a earlier, as huge move said level, margin say, as start We I just going keep customers continue we think that time if get we to retention lap would year. opportunity quarter. we're continue pushing see and through the and we going have thing about expansion. the focused. to money, will QX, going that. now We're is above expansion talk we flow we go keep Brett X drive we'll benefit. our going margins, to in to cadence get to at longer But forward. The to to servicing business Great a and We're investing of we end continue the we our to to show customer this growing

Brett Urban

Yes, agree that, is I'd with Brett. this Jeff,

year back an that XX points. margin blew Our maintenance But feel sales the force the but to year. XX%, the through start we ready get maintenance in is for we're Obviously, say to on expectation sure our I guide land making year. first basis quarter range, our is half in ramped improve margins confident for of the investing X which in and will up guide sellers, that extremely that expansion the going standpoint. [ that is again, somewhere XXX for from XX to ] to then growth

Jeffrey Stevenson

year variable just great shift which take increasing to result or snow most in markets, start Brett. removal a your in a a any your winner fixed help in hear, following the toward will And should your been whether in wondered seasonal meaningful levels It's year. contract ' business initial success snow And concentration elevated with the to cold had if you it to business. it's

Dale Asplund

great Jeff, Yes, point.

year. this panhandle snow with I is fixed get stay actually the with willing customers don't best snow spread you season that into year variable but rate said, get didn't the and think Florida lot some. Virginia, to volume across quick, a where we've And of Georgia, It after get they the a that of it type markets through D.C. you like to the costs you snow months. traditionally, We might the saw those that time some or over pretty usually hit get across seen melted Carolinas, the X be long the X in want we more of

try where those up more markets a schedule. to on ones want Some fixed to customers of of set are

in on So the I ability tell progress will positioned into XXXX $X us happy the the snow with we just our business some give to unwind customers. year our continue sure this we actually that going last million BES land was work of we now. We're revenue. finished and with on Obviously, shift business but made make as will well. up year core markets, we had to we're where further but snow you,

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Operator

Goldman Tong Sachs. Our next with question will come from George

Keen Fai Tong

revenue talked regions. X -- that from separates other markets these X X talk ancillary words, that you in these In more maintenance ancillary in ancillary markets Can in of markets have? landscape characteristics about about what other talked your headwinds you contributed lower to about You business demand? you your

Dale Asplund

simple. markets, Where Look, some would I future said of obviously. customers, I've is the couple many revenue have much so you more tree little discretionary got drive I Like saw have there's tell a country ancillary happy to we money. opportunity try across George. you, a But spend headwind, that earlier, them ancillary to they revenue.

of If markets as those ancillary. a some retention as maybe could not correlation, you ask me markets, what are is our of some that be high growing the

customer preaching and have know and every manager, do happy. making with a retention in every fix you it's your they're to customers, communicate branch starts It team We're direct it. we to all We company. correlation. sure what can we this with So

show we're going to you, tell couple would weeks. I it a in of So

going that's so You're customer retention. retention, retention, customer are we why that see customer to correlation and on focused

Brett Urban

happened George, From Yes I'd be. the mentioned the perspective we over quarters a noncore guidance, from exactly and last of quarterly to that just first the think add, of our we strategy don't perspective, some a A it step half standpoint, it's where X transformational things core we had provide QX we in in lot of from I mean, but if year. back expected about change year. revenue a you

there to time But exponentially in taking some really the to get the still see expected we half of to field. statements. out it land be. where year, when growth when And adopted we to to back start these the you're exactly the compound benefits going that's return it's in So in financial

Keen Fai Tong

related Got it. how core growth sense. of ancillary you may your landscape of initiatives is versus year, expectations cross-selling? on maintenance the improving makes that like with internal increased half second revenues have the other improving much that, And dependent of That in to revenue

Dale Asplund

contribute. we conversion. think We're going grow maintenance Yes. George, the -- be that We're going how on to to there's all magic land. it's to plan moving I any X many development to to Look, committed not so able pieces, we're not unpack

for relying to translate you. grow to continue do to we service have ability will X half. to add not see and value with I to work things want that Every we the Contract momentum customers, only like discretionary on shows continue one momentum. to to That in momentum. Look, continue our our we are just to higher We see Ancillary, happier see of there. happy feel second revenue, We're more me we want customers, going metric. retention. these customers even

as turning all getting important critical not more are There's work. as X a work, they're is maintenance often happy getting our we making levers the and is development as customer that retention critical development that customer do just and ancillary a as into got as watch customer sure as can. these just to pull we've So we grows -- them just than the Getting other.

Officer, Michael the Dozier we works all are pulling So week. every and on levers this Chief our Commercial

his he's can this focused, So with focus be team.

Operator

will Wittmann come from next Our with Andy question Baird.

Andrew J. Wittmann

high Great. a at I unchanged, guess my first guidance, changed question some the here it have a is and the related the little level like but footnotes bit. looks is assumptions of which to

a million, guys have it's quarter, estimating little last explain be up lawns you and to revenue $XX your to this $XX guidance to yet talk that U.S. the noncore bit. But runoff is unchanged. just going wanted I million. BES you're this from So impact and was quarter, But

of kind a X-part guess I So question.

How was thought Like to have increase what going part to $XX being, all, was you of then changed. guidance in would as million? number had your difference First million $XX headline that that? from good the that be? And would insight what second hasn't pretty did to have revenue I like

normal a wide just care. outlook that I suspect that. I'd just $X the give if that was range, quarter it's but or address the I million, I to that's if if it's we wondering thought you chance offsets don't So your in and changed a just so latter, something

Dale Asplund

the the I'll U.S. the last let Yes. here Brett mid-January I'll Yes. math. and be sale all of the in walk lapped final let year, you which that question. in let BES unwind will through Great and occurred I'll lawns, QX.

Andy, X for we that. I think you had have buckets said it.

we where was said also add unwind And on in and First new you said it's of things then estimate going to the $XX where there's $XX for are Brett we side, walk will be snow. million impact he was to let be through million. from in we the We going of and then our million, land But $X so that. saw Brett quarter. BES what X now $XX the me $XX the million in more let those QX. million But his of the of bridge had

Brett Urban

the I'd a decisions. business sell decisions year ago Yes. a our question. good unwind to absolutely and our and say, business And to first BES the right is foremost, franchise clarification made we

talk I have happy don't we get versus to core QX, when and to extremely of end I think noncore Dale will be about we anymore. the

million this $X think I $X last BES in and guide, we step takeaway. $XX in million line, as last can over X for the that's land in on over big we revenue $XX said million million a guide step But from to QX million QX, QX U.S. land U.S. piece have of should The business we really lawns from now perspective. the $X clarified and business. year. lawns about produced

to last month sales. have bridge a behind So dollars it $X land had the did million. And million plus in the you that's million that and million bridge We before X between we executed then U.S. lawns. difference in really gets the the for $XX year, $XX That's the few proven note to we exit the very description But to be U.S. the the in us. we absolutely look, and on excited fleet this business lawns. guide. decision when be QX core I the noncore is right franchise to think we'll And in get the they're business to BES sell

Andrew J. Wittmann

Yes.

didn't the guidance growth little more development range. that's the tell us and Okay. maybe it. revenue backlog. a missed in you're any be it. your have mean Is not the a lot of revenue seeing year-over-year you expected great, your the good, backlog a end wanted you element backlog, would obviously than but high this and is just then just discrepancies that it, you on development? I -- between growth if difference in even development about up trending? is Maybe quantification in talk I bit think that revenue against the I I to year I'm to difference that compare the mistaken, how if next say want just Can that basis, And

your just So have why might there comments I a on there. thought to be difference

Dale Asplund

this. coming great of the We're Andy, but years financial development let off me for growth Yes. Brett it, X through part walk say group. you I'll just let our

that maintenance pretty give let a back. or the he business. broad team gave as great some going team, But on actual Obviously, more about, feeding X% not to fuel continue talked the maintenance our Brett company about we're drive we But a to level. dollar financials come the to to with the years to let the maintenance wants is we're to me you business grow at conversion. to come feel give development we've development range. opportunity that to in in in say going of to X% if We level growth as any revenue us and Our the key.

Brett Urban

feel We business. that about Yes. great

the growth foremost, and X% and X X% last been First years has in business that growth. sequentially the

years. in X So banner in at next right we're we selling million which year into point. is that coming mind keep fantastic The off backlog this around right, feel business, next for and $XXX is this year year,

to XXXX this at for selling being backlog Andy, about up We're about could think point. into revenues full. X%. Generally, year X% backlog you is essentially this Our

If X%. the you specifically look at financials, is about kind in our more up X-year of the backlog Q, than

be we mind, So we will great a have an in issue lighter that are growth out but in feel period, keep heavier selling growth in the of winter, XX-month backlog. Timing about a just If could bit we in beyond development. development. always rate the little have a

strong be guide, some again will fiscal 'XX. have growing X% that X% generally, into business feel We pull that and really, But months that, or that GCs in projects quarters. really between we push or or

Andrew J. Wittmann

Okay.

really you go it's important this time, a afford I I here. third because to guess of will X me quarter. a back to question the think margins wanted just If more part I

good. basis You've basis. is but points looking annual for less on XXX year-over-year is than addressed the quarter, that The of this already, an some guidance very

you So story I you and get that back be better. the think -- once improvement growth, margin you're talking about said exponentially to will

a year-over-year is indications on the -- this -- doing something that in are feels XXX you This is margin of guys margin. So It of like and -- all great too like this comp level of just was the made work. lot the so there the high?

be like that. just feels not comments feels as should hear saying So more. of I It the kind here, there I'm it like

Maybe something way. a is chance the this you and this address I'd little And a a of one thought my more missing time comp or maybe maybe bit something to different in So just question. maybe give else. in X it's I

Dale Asplund

Yes.

that the look I half revenue the aggressive on the on Let level. Don't on anchor you me year. back start anchor at midpoint. the probably and EBITDA, of you margin know as doesn't eye see midpoint in that if

wide We million, as on won't if would beneficial a that's Andy, to to say, it's QX we get those million drive changes be structural beneficial were range, there of made QX. have margin. I to pretty benefit. lot able and going $XXX that big and a the is range we a this $XXX quarter from a anything QX, If in

well XX everybody we're underway that saying update And getting expansion. get we're where And QX, going we're at. But right not the changes to basically We're going every we this We'll the where into at other see basis not through know we're bps what get points have we year weather goal does, that. feel to great. say we midpoint to XXX Now year. at. year. we of now improvement to previously margin and We're continue of as multiple drive going see QX I hit our stated we

and to improve. all guys all Our as try levers is XXX for to We get push Brett? we going get pulled to that's go. everything we long available quarter every We're sure make last continue you those goal to year. had year But to

Brett Urban

perspective, a is On the including more is for basis north Yes, which grow, XX.X% we XX plus we of a for coming feel a company. XX margins margins, points be Andy. company. little clarity. great out million $XXX QX, about QX. to XX% a TTM at the perspective, to bit That TTM the to record We so of fantastic. a add of I finished TTM in basis, From that EBITDA, appreciate opportunity opportunity we're from margin have last year the continues now TTM

opportunity. about to there, to we the to the but guide look business business, about like are great the this opportunities and We and but feel the make going that, going sellers expansion year at in investments margin and great some things continue opportunity the and we in we're feel margin

Operator

our question Jefferies. take from Harold with next We'll Antor

Harold Antor

to This Moore. is Antor on Harold Stephanie

I up making you've been about there. you ramping have your So talked I know guys sales investments know force, and

many have it then ] productive? do decline hire year? have So what's time the for many people you many become takes up could just the how And you hired? How frame salespeople you How us, help ramp the [ that now? to during these

Dale Asplund

Yes.

customer about let's our talk So employees. interfacing

buckets So have X here. of we types

salespeople then us go the every managers. have out people our our We and our customers new business. account get had we new in servicing ancillary And that and sell month,

it. Our invest in Harold, and goal those grow to groups, both is to continue

direction. and fix here's I'm without going had it a moving retention get numerical customer Now We giving number, to the right you. to in what tell our

we worry it. to is business. bringing in more just This a Before turn about customers service

and in serve best to customers the have be We the our industry.

that, create invest. we'll As those we we value, invest investments we to do going as And more. see are

more have the I us customers. think out to opportunity feet street on make have huge and new we sure get go to we

landscape reputation Our best around those as with has working the be people the working to going industry. BrightView company are is in with

resources. and as to QX here continue grow. So without on in we to continue timing our be but and sharing to stable you QX, get The significantly is branches just the we're number, up to I'd ramp Brett? you, tell yet we're some We've going it going add determined. significant added to

Brett Urban

into we points TTM I'll the now have a to over operating is business. Howard, absolutely SG&A is year. and we're back the the XXX basis leverage our from the from now standpoint, add invest afford down just doing to of And leverage beauty TTM what it, to last

sheet advantages centralize, into do and dollars sales portion around the in about of size way. some we you perform to our the efficient have, savings for we we're us only ample and we some to equipment continue sellers help over that but think G&A reinvest into grow to can sell, our to customers those our of and we a million provided, them have we're of you take a to standpoint, them going help create service $XXX could invest for And So turn as SG&A going more a scale technology that. slides that back to balance standpoint, to into see force. Not in P&L from from them liquidity, in

P&L on our standpoint only make we're the a to service position been we've support we investment, have balance needed equipment savings from ever to G&A sheet investment best best this So that support positioned a from customers. to the not and but the we're

Harold Antor

And is truck in consumer think I just you've equipment fleet, -- [indiscernible], know invested on resources I other et your I Yes. cetera. guess, which point,

guess is So mowers year? cetera. service the allocation how that and And impact, levels, you some the of the think et pretty you the many technician about. I How about and costs, else us I trending, maintenance repair purchase you during help given costs the have guess, understand and year and discuss you to I leverage expect think attractive how in plan hear do trucks -- to rest capital purchased for

Dale Asplund

if with equipment employees Brett a to we're let they realize tell our have enormous teams of levels attitude to the big you. keep their a change they math out you, And here's give enjoy I Harold. of do time couldn't where is I'll and the portion from they months. fund the when But visiting to branches. what to my the Yes. a were for improvement the in spending ago is even at I going field big fleet our equipment grow, can XX our last that that the customers, over The current service need. they year them growth they in

come like in it yet We got feel different to products sites. people math but their let's far. we're significant job both We're you so that cultural showing Brett, So culturally, image a have just some work seeing that trailers But finish. for trucks, you and comment, keep the we my our can... internally in the I give will and Brett difference, customers are up on like

Brett Urban

meat you in Day strategies a to about talk for millar kind here, but for the Yes. I'll talk We'll place, leave of all on bone the core some one. in about give our just February XX Harold, Investor second. I'll fleet

we've core only company, had repairs and that ago, years maintenance, for of the breaking mowers. Happy X, are mowers X customer to old. to than get XX By won't through poor old, down, its end of the we in years have our have rent we mower employee the X mowers satisfaction not where poor single how X,XXX BrightView. months right? That's those have that's fleet fleet cost satisfaction, our broke mowers that's core were this And down. to replaced X,XXX X the time and X there every X, we things would fleet back constantly go we get You report in in spring, older

cycle $X we're the get we going mowers virtuous we year flipping those age like. start a start or we at XX look ] year, when what look at [ that's XX selling a So them dollar to looks When residuals. for months, now this our can to keeping we're $X.XX next cash to and pennies selling where to flow at you and $X.XX about statement, or

we'll create -- for X I at XX on example So going gave whole to our more here that Investor virtuous a we're provide cycle. February [indiscernible], Day. lot you but

Harold Antor

job on the Good quarter.

Operator

JPMorgan. from next Steinerman question Our with Andrew come will

Alexander EM Hess

to XX on This drilling in saw is Slide another core my Alex for XX level maybe precision the the like by chart start I decline. a basis math in something and point on down quarter-on-quarter that core Andrew. you on improvement with Hess of to want

but decline quarter. X.X% in X.X% XQ have I was last year-on-year this, core that that, and then on confirming just... follow-ups some just So then And

Dale Asplund

Yes. make sure quarter. right. I your a are We're in just models fiscal

be math, doing Look, math, we would right. to QX you're sure make QX, see improvement. your there. just to aligned continue we're not But your yes, sequential So

on guidance, some year. growth, If be was to chart. you earlier would the clearly see land to of QX the what's the we it improvement. And give continue to where provided want decimal, We we on would when break return it smaller to on exactly we it tried second we as be than said expect expected call, look, half we've to around But if breadcrumbs the the sequential I be. last call it which to mentioned down to

reiterating us So year. that just stuff, we confident all of XX as as ago get past this as that guidance very land are that behind the once will return well confident of of half to we QX in Alex, feel will feel And noncore growth we second in aware this year. that days we did you be

Alexander EM Hess

trying then just tougher the you subject, was where prior a most on year And in there than this in the easier just staying than I'm recent to Great. for lap XQ in any ago of reason, in quarter? whatever did the performance compare was aspect understand, notably quarter. prior core the quarter

Dale Asplund

for retention, our in snow comment expected, businesses fixing noncore muddied lawns you we conversation development business customer up here, impact, and the that the a Alex, we're grew Yes, I U.S. ramping the that We second, mathematically. business, here and small but land adjust know just in employee et in as growth a turnover, mean, grew. And QX. snow. then core gets had for land cetera. still I'll I

expected, So adjust and we saw growth those noncore you businesses, QX. for as in

lawns the about company the U.S. So was grow we you some that, right continuing divest feel when to and take BES really good the stuff unwind business again, business. of out the decision the to

for this in and guidance great company momentum great feel about of the the the rest year. about So we the

Alexander EM Hess

mind, expectation. The your altered the a guide in third snow as was you hope [indiscernible]? to on guide don't have And changed I BES Can in guys, I get you what's well, comment you. raised just versus I'd snow online while including like

Brett Urban

Yes. XXX No days problem, XXX just guide today. to to clear, snow to XX XXX It's be our was XXX ago.

have now we're in changed in right? it, we saw trying guide over QX, another, think you're QX. BS not we'll call seeing, the million in a done, we $X have is at step we million fairness, impact exact provide which $XX So see I of Alex, that snow And which to What all.

mentioned saw perspective, of in last just description try We the 'XX. But fiscal we that for as we're snow in weren't bit in snow. in of plus QX, the guide like very impact descriptive just a snow from year. great being XX% similar We But that our in Originally, guidance. provide was that the of Dale of earlier we our that about range exact feel year-over-year. now snow included more call, in most So that businesses QX. a QX, of about to little to in

Operator

question from BTIG. come with Carl Reichardt will next Our

Carl Reichardt

remind within development a go now mean, lot. for a development can I then the that sit? of maintenance the us And cyclically speaking, has does contracts? I development. shifting? or we your seeing business now It's commercial context, Brett And is to to been to is know the growing. just conversion second. terms contracts of about new want or sort back changing of business talk in Dale, you're growing you development rate soft from that that long-term right where been We target, know

then the potential more development in that positive just for grow sort I'm how environment you're of that So working And just you maintenance interested to be? in might what a contract. cyclical conversion, think to conversion

Dale Asplund

Carl, in that today. We think for any development great when our there's markets people the not in we And We feel best because can group. industry the servicing it development we expand new in market, almost team work. putting have we're we the about have to comes

cold and we any can environment. grow resources can we think we in markets, we can So start move

great development come forward. for years go we to So our we opportunities many about feel as

job we when over we full going you, term. or one the with $X company, we're something the development we regional was as XXXX that maintenance under the the were million I the team joined transitioning calling development maintenance silos challenge with mentioned it's around the you not long our where the year, it. If but and progress timing as saw it to the with center momentum every and went we're early the sales had, gets teams in leaders mid-teens. to sure on you, see in Carl, BrightView roughly created year. It We would great We is sure we this install, I what tough job the and I saw we're through last year. together. make to tell group that relationship Now combined, person to from got the at working a can XX% getting it converted every conversion, of my as say somewhere the would I this tell be saw look and QX, moved, front to to as gets at on make benefit to we're customers do the should do

should it's the far. Development to in tip So it we the We our but make be for maintenance momentum. the past, do so spear didn't well of come group. continue

that's just So said tell without but we when giving it's just X it it mid-teens than would year, was last was I number, last year higher a you, quarter. financial

into our we'll more get you. then details some busy with Let's summer share and

Operator

no time, like turn call the to back Yes. At Mr. I'd have further questions. this to we now over

for remarks. closing Asplund

Dale Asplund

on largest biggest BrightView Thank transition multiple well you, York paired through BrightView. industry do, you safe, to with continues great are forward Investor making the operator. our revenue work from and Day The said, lot we'll we that City at This that enthusiasm look we talk and contagious and When will best. With organization. still underway, to I'll of drive close spread growth. about continue passion and will everybody initiatives to is New as being pass XX and a strides again. the by talked reiterating in our player EBITDA we've transforming this seeing but in and the have February to to in I be to long-term

Operator

have today's a disconnect for Please your Thank wonderful and day. at conclude this does your line you time, participation. This call.

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