CMI - Earnings call transcript Q1 2024

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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Q1 2024 Cummins Inc. Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Chris Clulow, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, Chris.

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Christopher Clulow

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Mark Smith

Thank operating you, and delivered and profitability positive revenue We first good cash flow. everyone. solid morning, Jen, quarter and generated

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to XXXX XX sales the to is to of ago a record increased EBITDA sales XX.X% be year billion. a in projected declined aftermarket EBITDA as a to as from at sales, decreased experienced year to range revenues the midpoint Distribution year points particularly basis XX.X% XX.X%, we volumes. XX.X% In that an of industrial due of the to from to $X.X percent of segment, the higher X% increase levels compared customers ago ago. a

margins to and of X% be to an increase XXXX for and from year. improvement guide for a EBITDA XX.X%, full to margins be the to up the X% range of flat XX.X% that Systems expect $X.X increase to prior Power and revenues segment in were distribution trend to segment. We modest revenues operating EBITDA improved improving increased driven XX.X% in volumes, contributed of billion, the of X% which from performance power in higher of an to revenues and a sales XX.X% generation particularly all improvements, by pricing strong markets, of the

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an of invest continue to ago we loss loss EBITDA year to the EBITDA support million million a as was $XX capabilities to Our and in products future $XXX compared growth.

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Christopher Clulow

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Operator

the Our with Volkmann Instructions] of first comes question Jefferies. line Steve [Operator from

Stephen Volkmann

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of out? capacity How ability the in should center position thinking increasing grow years, much centers? are hear few how then curious terms is that's business things over about quarters play you kind your you over we of time? what or data next, So is X of data think however, sort to about market. about to whatever, your to be your of exactly thinking kind I'm that And the and additions business going What capacity of in

Jennifer Rumsey

Steve. data you data is strong position gen market for historically Great. we're have year, XXXX that. in of driver of And had and mission-critical new XX-liter now. up sold the a XX the the customers, uses business strong to that We're demand XX% very launch on the be I the heard our from through out projecting the and really Thanks, right obviously center, to our XX% had growing. a center guidance, as we've And ] in is that which market, CentumTM And engine. [ and XX-liter product, mentioned power

solution customers. of then, growing will look market. how providing that's those And So continuing continuing to capacity and we and additional we're to plan what the of at we to support XX-liter think strong be course,

Stephen Volkmann

plans Or So sorry, yet? have you in capacity still is do process? to any XX that concrete of increase

Jennifer Rumsey

increase Yes, we do have the we for place have today concrete plans X-liter. capacity the that in to

Operator

the with comes of our Sachs. from next Revich question Goldman line . Jerry

Jerry Revich

of the I And folks higher? acceleration was I the internal the in I'm line versus your margins. what's obviously, just consensus of was the the you expectations seeing ask to set this Mark, talk and just that quarter wondering because of guidance year, where over revision you how up, about plan. see versus the the are raise the course cadence an cadence wonder earnings and your top just developed if quarter both quarter upwards to came the where light to nice can versus

Mark Smith

Yes.

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driven Atmus, expectations for say, would distribution perspective, in when large of the at our my think sales, [ ] year. industrial line. the the the and see a than pullback in in in, mid-quarter little certainly by we're off-highway came we you seen from and adjust largely a bottom the bit QX with we've in line by total, lower, end I So as someone in separation as pointed out, business range I applications. margins from particularly of lower on last parts and those here, improving what We

X say It's feel months, been the otherwise, So that's good not I'd year-over-year. X the margin new. But for area. It's gross we quarters. couple there improvement of a about

announcements at look make our you As efficient our we continuing to see organization, comments, can. streamline can ways and more us from where we're to our

Jerry, particular its line, distribution in in pick in overall, expecting to margins So up going but forward.

to we be We've -- from a third you've in But probably didn't quarter, always probably the little truck other in decline production particular, and that fair, year, we expecting and it heard expecting were this expected heavy-duty are bit materialize. to industry participants. last

in momentum up the distribution in feel the think will next QX, some of I engine significant to QX into in power really, systems systems that probably and on year, see components and forward volatility is and any power going clearly, revenues. business shouldn't And the distribution.

parts shift it's know, We just lower mix more bit than and and that's little you As reliable. think but temporary. of a a service had we and parts, with half quite predictable the

Jerry Revich

opportunity I opportunity? how of significant just an on XXXX when will so What can a regulations mean for field Is market warranties the from regulations, dynamic new standpoint, you is bigger market parts to essentially. share that embedded have higher for does have share. folks that that because that that parts your increases warranty population ] engine Super. new And picture [ ask

Jennifer Rumsey

of you noted, going as application XXXX most mean, with years there's warranty out. or emissions I is XX for regulations that a the to XXX,XXX EPA miles, requirement mile longer Yes. heavy-duty starting for

course, will we'll So to which further period, part purchasing. some that throughout it's to those already that will provide X-year systems that genuine that and will that warranty And that us. extended some drive need then warranty our essentially then, what will engine customers be everybody into mean customers pricing embedded on benefit of are

Operator

with line comes question . the from Bank. of Our Deutsche DeBlase Nicole next

Nicole DeBlase

to ask I'm together because related. going they're mine

around both power So and they're systems.

margins So I levels. the think below XQ in embedding year guidance, are guys full you

the the And look common the ] an slightly for that I second growth, back comps similar higher. but lumpy than business, is question think in growth then is but a historically, in half used second the you quarter. it's full saw growth [ less if first year half, the your on more guidance I it's outcome

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Mark Smith

But bit the question We in the on point Nicole, quarter, your business. revenue we're we on depending our over messages, and we more essentially the different. to momentum the revenue, dramatically and And ] that that overall, But a in modest is nothing tend confident we're the how worked But confident higher structurally been in months. that hard see [indiscernible] some in the second do we'll guidance is of the [ some team improvements improving. fourth earnings. turn there's XX really is half. the parts performance Jen, flow her Bush have there's the if right, business think seasonality there. get I on We've raising as little in have There variation positive last

we over . forward, improvement expect time. Going

Operator

Raso with question comes ISI. of David Our the Evercore line from next

David Raso

think around you just I XX, can the the particularly expectations us meeting, margins. give some the May around meeting?

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to the to the a should just bit of May expect up little just what if trying but meeting sort thunder set... of we not level I'm So curious steal can tee XX. you

Jennifer Rumsey

to and shared where you margin certainly, but and will expectations Yes. tell going that. goals we're what that against I strategy about Well, Analyst us at for about Day tell XXXX obviously, we be to drivers what think revenue you talking won't our talk for that we expect you can and the we're of specifically, the company the in some last certainly overall within

So David, our I Day. more you'll for at Analyst about think that hear sure,

David Raso

within trying I'm Okay. up you're And of X down. there it the is it the income just a first Is not line sure one. other I we but Is continuing JV year the some income? item why down? China parts of lumpy still guiding the it's quarter know income. And JV year-over-year, to in know royalty make pretty quick The was improvement? the

be can us with would If you great. help that

Mark Smith

Yes.

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or momentum to particularly as bit So engine were the the it's build offsetting I -- the be in little is we're QX, market there. OEM signs China, any year really was tech lower biggest know, in driver mostly the last for big going assumptions of hopes expectations tech a some as fees business. it's a are clearer you there at earnings growth. increases of waiting still down, which But going in Engine components, the primarily in the forward, on business fees, truck about that and say around that's will the -- but was more

Christopher Clulow

the also on David. there, of in add And quick joint launch One we this our venture have approval. the battery built later year plan post

well So in back comes that will losses second have half. online some as as that the

Mark Smith

is in Which embedded Accelera.

Jennifer Rumsey

that. expecting we're Yes,

battery regulatory We JV. have approval that for final

going that's in start QX. expecting we're to flowing So

Operator

Thank you.

Angel Our from the of Castillo next question line with Morgan Stanley. comes

Angel Castillo Malpica

the Just Generation segment. back to Power

and better to guidance about of what kind just you growing XX% are mix just seeing price prior talk X% perspective? you you of volume a that XX% getting a to than pricing previously. from production think anticipated? that Can of your raised makeup matter the is versus I expectations? XX% versus versus Or kind to you of Is this

Jennifer Rumsey

Yes.

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all, long. So the as of articulated, pretty board first is I order

work and time improve out. performance of inflation in the business the to of price some takes to some response to so And cost play

supply So chain. some also efficiency business new we're Power to that drive be able market. starting And launch in to, we're margins. that to that we've of noted I course, see stronger then the improvements of to at And products the and and in sell pricing continuing leverage designed the come manufacturing Systems into higher

compared dynamics So where favorable gen are market performance. have power have there in historically been the to some been that in happening we margin would

Angel Castillo Malpica

give you talked That's new your just kind diesel lines the that's products, Can regulations. bit the the for us coming emission very emissions and of know a of and of of guardrails along engine in to run out And I XXX margin. helpful. more to reset ahead as that recover little pricing you opportunity cycles around improvement. you about of of potential kind typically what expect when kind you of get terms margin some you

as think given not about -- specifically and So to those your to margins get of any but maybe year, rolled and or those products price the projects as out? we kind implications those necessarily

Jennifer Rumsey

Yes.

deliver value associated certainly, margin have improvement our that. to like emissions regulations, in goal So to with the past is incremental to customer,

You the will the EPA with see emissions we regulations, warranty dynamic. already about talked XX

warranty we've we You will we will And always in particular, the out launch a also ] additional also to new began in at at we products [ warranty. from the where the has that content. you to see have and added those rate notable demonstrated have least launch dynamic perspective until meet content, a market, as product regulations warranty system then is accrue higher after-treatment to

you'll So that those see. are the parts moving

We have products. expect we what exact pricing for those on specific not around yet numbers shared

Operator

from comes with of Zakaria next line Tami question Our the JPMorgan.

Tami Zakaria

you little was guide It a better. excluding sort the margins in understand which better seems a like is points, guide Engines full year probably out and to basis that separating Systems. of the raised wanted headwind about margin headwind, but by becoming which Atmus, -- Power I a expecting XX So

what's savings? this improved more it of be So helpful cost to it Or sense margin get there price would expectation? higher driving volumes? is Or just color more it any is a really cost? Is So

Mark Smith

Good question.

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activity. bit So drivers. up and cost on yes, picked a X reduction really . that. good are volume you that Those It's primary of the little

Operator

with comes line question Our Melius from research. next the Rob Wertheimer of

Robert Wertheimer

of most on prebuy going subtle get you nat whether your do where than additional there's cost also any well a that general more having My what from there's sure. you your early That's how us warranty will whether question. I'm other in see preparedness you and the so may mix be forth. you in stripped competitive can would be whether And transition? better XXXX in of standards the around understand the questions we offset what There's be guys help there around EPA should question out around is a that XXXX your would on the share maybe guys can things an emissions of gas to that, and not and met, gain positioning increase pretty can increase, subtleties bunch today. whether be be Price the

Jennifer Rumsey

engine for what Thanks we've to And a those position invest regulations. question. scale investing, And future are in Great. in market-leading will solutions in Yes. talked we're as a of our HELM the platforms. to continue to new engine the about we because meet be unique

we There out will be think we 'XX will mean expect and provide into change that will a and so 'XX as a what customers them. period in going that's regulation those anticipate we dynamic regulations. that, play that to And for as major time the end advantage go to some us

to as And strengthen, expect has truck cycle there'll so going think things to next-generation of we're duty the then our period platform XX-liter market. of and go be platform and the XXXX, high-efficiency those to have well cost-effective of market XX-liter well. and as have will sustainability reliable ambitions continued into most a our go that way, later ambitions as that meet is but year in way and some medium drive Obviously, And some into the see this that position customers we'll U.S. interest have uptake, a XX-liter then normal positioned. we'll some new that's and we to we in this gas natural the high we best beyond

our really launching So we're those of and the position development with on execution them the into focused market. and excited products about

Operator

next of Our question from line Kaye comes Noah the Oppenheimer. with

Noah Kaye

continue this sort you at rules nice more primarily of pickup given fuel to a trucks. point inbounds hydrogen wondering most Just crediting started of here. the provide for your EPA XXXX sticking see with or of in whether of Accelera are the minute cell [indiscernible]. this the to space, offerings just if And for final a hydrogen If

Jennifer Rumsey

Yes.

shape ] with really gas beyond penetration. into we emissions 'XX So X the greenhouse is but industry even us is [ of ambition for III XXXX regulation, if you to as no and going regulation, into get the Phase the the EPA look major announced it start really beyond, level which surprises unprecedented to assumptions that an around vehicle and

work and to that closely is for be the to together successful. to industry the so And government really going have

engines a one in a pleased there that things about it question, hydrogen your things regulation. are solution. we're actually -- to the of few as One is zero-emission recognizes the So

believe that cells to hydrogen EPA likely hydrogen some work to And say. powertrain also time, but engine space will rate take for good would the fueled I certification. -- a streamline that over adoption time, the that, hybrid commit solution still we So create be on are is to that did then a fuel

engines, hybrid to challenge. the because a going be So be availability may think, an solution attractive we infrastructure is

So another that's thing closely. at that looking we're

more solutions. an fuel in battery and still level. there's uptick are a electrolyzers, as low seeing course, engine-based So still today of noted, some cells I we're pretty electric of the Yes, powertrain

Noah Kaye

Yes, JV. And for approval regulatory that the makes then sense. you got mentioned you

spending So least may gigafactory point for at for plan lining And be and us factory, kind on next supply the for the doing just your this the what years? of can proceed lay demand you game the over of at you should up out terms of couple in [indiscernible] how

Jennifer Rumsey

that the a mean announced Yes. working getting we selected have site I together earlier partners ahead regulatory this approval been of final we year. the

plant. the of the Memphis chain kind really in starting to we'll we're outside Mississippi, to supply a see of prepare just and for site and So be building work ready getting --

Now believe this have that to entity be and the regulatory able we quarter. finalize we close we'll in approval,

plant will see the as and allow we to then the money build the the design the of in production partners And plant new to XXXX. us based then a will we're, sharing and of this investment that work phase phased have we'll And have course, investment this production up the across and of XX-gigawatt start towards plant the our and hour rates in lines and for really industry market how still to market be on with leverage in designed commercial in the market. feeling about incentive we're ability that adoption specifically have how positioned vehicle commercial cell here enable good together some and vehicle help that's we LFT of available we're developing, scale

Operator

line comes with Securities. question of Jamie the next Cook from Our Truist

Jamie Cook

side. for the incremental to there's Systems years, engine so through wondering, talk Day across understanding Accelera. perhaps medium okay, you about you, Can be, Power historic [indiscernible] question improve you managing story up share Or less an across hasn't gains your month. on have actions looking thinking, I'm the just this the side of there, and like calls. over just Mark, helping then terms it sort taking targeted would if of and hope structurally the that I next as the you be backlog like you sorry, to have to in a there's maybe just couple and you Cummins But question think Analyst my these And I as been opportunity So is I I'm coming to margins? guess, about particular, cost term, spend the your should incremental of this margins? visibility second asked. you apologize. is is more Cummins' portfolio, think X do you hit margins addressed, I'm this think have market you in at

Mark Smith

address in So incremental I heard you we May. margins will explicitly

or appropriate mind that all not for of us miss are mind clearly. will who very center of You top asking for

hear will I you shortly, very, that guess. very So

Jennifer Rumsey

that. and And in business Yes. talk of We're, course, to we'll and you good improvement we we working do Jamie, the Meritor the Revenue, integration seeing as up. ramp the have back. as you're Accelera more about

market seeing in been the a demand market. we're vocational of heavy-duty time. of solid terms been high still color on have market, backlogs the strength in because of up, the down the some that has Truckload continued built In lot for

and some well are PowerGen, we've into our up so take some noted that as anticipating We're as the OEM other well. half will as not as hearing revised capacity new is And still we looking there being into down, our that previous sold earlier, I but launch, customers sell far how of second weakening, out the down our to have can engines 'XX. and that guidance, baked guidance, market XX-liter with we through which as at from CentumTM and able that's

soften truckload heavy-duty good closely watching that we're the gen, going cycle. in It's customers we still the in next pretty really enter power medium-duty and fleet the uptick That's before strong about So feeling -- the one vocational very that feeling on-highway. the anticipating about good it's their market. really to and it's --

Mark Smith

about what industry some And ahead 'XX 'XX then Yes. you earlier building was consensus of heard XXXX. maybe and

not our what downturn. assumption for So our momentum a assumption, we're normal for that not sharp China outlook an or more is baseline this today we're still as that's as -- cyclical waiting where as into X fact, is That's probably. is the year. we've steep baked but this

Operator

question from with next Our line of Vertical Research. comes Kauffman Jeff the

Jeffrey Kauffman

apparent as know to feared. their on forecast. 'XX engine isn't in Research It's curious that be the just the your thoughts. was lot I going up bad downturn, heavy-duty has as ACT I I feared originally us think of a side taken

otherwise in unrelated? been from are have mention taking did what prebuy but if 'XX? you a have Or XQ, we some we think 'XX You better do weakness are would beginning the in X

Jennifer Rumsey

they're market. we're I'm freight last they've now sure the XX with spot dynamics that going what's related. at months. mean, for carriers I of really rates some watching if the you with with the And backlog production not there, challenged some in rate look out of been on the

see the chain different really than outlook, -- what's made the forecast, fair. It some and and in supply but we this softening to I the cycle unpredictable. half. so we mean because are certainly has even second that's held And it's we longer expecting and had driving -- dynamic up that so of better still our

Operator

Our Research. Chad Bernstein Dillard with last question from line of the comes

Unknown Analyst

how This filling to would double is in on I R&D on Chad. like intensity about the medium-term for the Federico click to basis. think and this

Christopher Clulow

Sorry, repeat I got the we don't can think part. you that? first .

Unknown Analyst

basis. about like R&D and think term on would Sorry. to this a the medium how on We to intensity double-click

Jennifer Rumsey

Yes.

noted fuel-agnostic investments. you our as our comments new -- in in are up we've platform. So engine taken know, in that making we R&D particular investments, we're because We these

really at and we're new we're at for of products the will we are launch R&D And those period beginning Accelera And course, well. launch period. as 'XX a through launch an work 'XX products level revenue business as up new and ramp investments. of the to elevated those in of there investment So then, and platform time to

Operator

turn to the to closing floor like back I'd for Chris you. Thank comments. over Clulow

Christopher Clulow

Really team our day. the will concludes Thanks, everybody, appreciate for teleconference. today. That a after always, Have participation questions call. available good be the your the for as Relations interest. Investor And

Jennifer Rumsey

many of of forward a seeing in you in couple person to weeks. Look

Operator

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Cummins (CMI) 2 May 242024 Q1 Earnings call transcript