FMBI - Earnings call transcript Q4 2020 | First Midwest Bancorp Inc

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Midwest Bancorp 2020 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Earnings Conference Call.

Following the close of the market yesterday, First Midwest released its earnings results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2020 and issued presentation materials that will be referred to during the call today.

During the course of the discussion, management’s comments and the presentation materials may include forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial information. The company refers you to the forward-looking statement, non-GAAP and other legends included in its earnings release and presentation materials, which should be considered for the call today. This call is being recorded and all participants are in a listen-only mode.

Financial Mike and and Pat and Chief Vice and by Mark Executive Barrett, answers presentation will President President call Sander, Operating Chief for the analysts Scudder, for Chief Chairman Officer; Executive be only. Following opened the questions Officer, Officer; and will I Mr. turn call the now to over Scudder. ahead. go Please

Mike Scudder

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are feeling positive We certainly more so.

us as unfold remains in conditions management lot very of a sheet with balance strong XXXX. that provides Our flexibility

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drop The it’s efforts. going team’s is program second And our well. Thanks frankly pretty underway. to

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Mark Sander

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portfolio of in the and again, all we better risk We each But XXXX. reviews proactive course will to of constant dialogues over across quarter success continue sectors. identify our felt client order

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with there. funding a but flush now, strength industry the still With muted our and little historical more liquidity, comparative costs is

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Importantly, we of market opportunities. funding sources advantage have plenty take to in of dry powder

it So Pat, we’ll pick up here. Pat? from

Pat Barrett

Mark. Good everybody. morning, Thanks,

X% tax Continuing increased quarter, quarter than a lower period of forgiveness well loans. points loan income prior Park from margin, interest both linked-quarter, PPP due as income higher was quarter. year, partially XX million the Compared XX ago. resolution and same $X to lower impact and on net million the a with current to year NIM million compared points on period Slide interest the favorable to loans contributed same XX. the interest PPP during of the slide offset a of growth the to fourth Bank Accretion quarter lower the the result impact period of loan rates. as with Turning NII margin of compared acquisition reflected $XXX quarter in by consistent scheduled the consistent as as periods, $X offset to down to basis funding more rates. prior up for ago. and forgiveness the securities net same primarily looks the basis in and XXXX. Compared the prior Net positive on impact of by help same It down negative prior nearly as the with the costs Acquired was than the certain both equivalent accretion acquired X.XX% loan the year to well

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on income Turning to non-interest Slide XX.

up Mortgage record income in XX% streams. our the to already $X.X fee in the We third factors were income was driven linked-quarter. up quarter from million total continue Mark see growth a referenced. XX% of by recovery Fees and solid overall

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robust these client sales teams beat miss results. helps, continuation The market in production growth the a didn’t retention While great of the XXXX. strong and

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in opportunities treasury business return forecast As delivered the to management various near versus which linked saw trends substantially liquidity, capital we softer charges in markets, been short-term in was income estate reflecting few demonstrating relatively the production. in long-term has continued real year modest as a over loan these product both normalizes, spending well and years. Card upside of flat as see we’ve pressure past as the from SFEs commercial course is quarter streams the specifically boost prior service here and We we lower normalcy. said the we previously, offset growth unit customer

that balance improving and continue fully. a puts categories in underlying XXXX I’d economy to of areas single the current growth all XXXX, quarter normalcy excess executing longer million in terminated $XXX total, opportunities market This and in term fee we our resulted to to future results sheet expect see of resulting in our recovers light in involve more the rate takes we both strategy optimization deploy also the gradual continuing during management expect were – digit to several card. to in in as terminating swaps. and continue the We million interest return borrowings wealth remaining reductions highlight future by across the action after solid borrowings. hedged high take we management, treasury on liquidity. the benefit million that conditions, the swaps of to offset provides termination on lower fourth annually. further pretax during optimization This $XX in advantage of flexibility quarter, will costs costs is NII approximately $X In future This

quarter quarter both with dollars expenses we were Moving periods Slide executing integration well and Note items, deferred by these $X from retail and with Away strategy expenses. acquisition prior associated were related to million that lower period anticipated acquisition includes by optimization Bank that on same Park and to the up associated on optimization largely offset quarter. announced OREO costs costs on workout partly current and commissions, expenses XX. ago, the driven million a total the a expenses, X% the mortgages of primarily as as higher origination year third loan compared costs the versus advertising in higher both linked in

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the of uptick year, half efficiency slide. an expect should leave expenses gradual elevated the servicing the of on declines a expenses process before we half overall XXXX, and ongoing second timing, this then in reflecting I taxes Last note first to benefits efforts. As of and reflecting the in the

XX%, asset XX% rate non-recurring approximately the from Our and million the finalizations. for other prior of resulting $X periods, around for tax deferred half adjustments reflective both tax return effective of in quarter benefits, prior was tax year

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our In associated and associated execute addition, the to strategy, million quarter with optimization closing fourth previously as recognize we the costs locations we with announced. during branch $X.X XX other continue severance retail on

We run to optimization around reduction $X million this continue said I’ve full to pretax XXXX. as in rate the of impact expect be expense

both digital to during shift As steady us has previously, trend a continue we new we’ve see accelerated volumes to banking. is for clearly and This us, said more not online the transaction comprising pandemic. mobile a

of continue and of us outlook You our should and to of these these guidance capabilities. as strategies make result optimization changes I should enhance further all that expect all platform – our technology anticipated investments. to to see a and investments note digital contemplates investment

And on impact year Slide persistence summary that fourth consistent practice, a the our stimulus with outlook outlook which on quarter of and levels dividend dependent have included on and and of ago. the financial quarter assets Consistent Moving per We’ve summarize customer the emphasize strong the the Slide growth. for quarter prior Capital on for risk behaviors a the mix our quarter the and XX. year our of usual share of and XXXX federal I for the commentary for in with These earnings also significant $X.XX activities. continue XX. to XX. volume to to quarterly results convenience, capital support be impact levels our with Slide is your and contributing to weighted pandemic our of for

Now, I’ll Mike remarks. turn it back to final over for

Mike Scudder

Pat. Thanks,

couple are us of and up, risks XX stretch I as of most So many this there’s in the out a a be here better not be would noticed before as feel time, as over us, just of to and the Clearly, reemphasize. per had say, many we in open things world been hopeful of we years about Midwest like to rarely operates we fashion. think today, linear At it this period there. still stand downside will XXXX. recovery of First at you year time, I’ve doing I’ve that same

think course vaccination of on of to As same. production about expect really we the second efforts from benefit the momentum we and the XXXX, the year over the the context monetary see half in and it of of would think the year about greater stimulus building I the effectiveness the and fiscal

conditions Volumes sheet reserves work improve. there, this, through are of are recovering. all again strong liquidities create outlooks we is opportunity I which our with our balance stabilize reemphasize, as what just is So to start and to as and going stable credit robust, all really of

ultimately higher deposit point. the we some move undervalued this that. help interim, will base efforts as quarter differentiate at that will navigate strength Our In the remains core rates undertook an also that

building those as capital stuff optimization the working have that what emphasize clearly one and is it’s are focus Pat is it accomplish. experience, rate would that important suggests focus flexibility Our broader client efficiency extended is our important again, they said, trying what there of we also as on that our are I teams in equally low pipelines the activities operates and building are to a offer hard ultimately around And while there. which Mark that are aligned and we’re a with period. the and superior priorities those, remain

and investments we’ve us all online experience. to Our and and with will of become will are that our in sets more processes our made skill making and those the and also digital deliver help efficient mature on efforts

growth those remain experience. our and efficient team driving to near-term, returns So building advantage focus and colleagues, of and opportunities as will and navigate as present we a said, the to higher. priorities on I continuing franchise continue retaining same on of take sustainably requires that talented much building pretty with That that a focus goals. themselves, superior a the driver we breadth those And revenue, align

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that, to just from turn us, to as come where each questions, answer it then and of with will just us among it it up practice, let’s I’ll from. our help for So the take just three question this the talking the other. direct and open it over

Operator

you, question-and-answer from ahead. session is begin time. [Operator go Chris Thank Instructions] The KBW. first at question Please with The this McGratty will sir.

Chris McGratty

Hey, good morning.

Mike Scudder

Chris. Hi,

Chris McGratty

to source pipelines, you in growth, but that mid doing also mortgages, I’m the of I’m MBS. you digit like alternative And see the for The building interested allocation interested the you the Mike. do more Thanks. in you kind to how about some on buying given your quarter. have Hey, the be talked better of mortgages of expect single been XXXX. peers loan bought

Mike Scudder

Go Mark. ahead,

Mark Sander

Sure.

good Chris, So morning.

expect We consumer. commercial come growth from and to both that organically

per not those we purchases. both planning expect digits. from of would this single mid again, grow point, businesses, At transactional organically se on purchases So away we’re to

in gave. like that, what if on And contemplated we through may, than XXXX, did our not depends but much it happens that’s guidance course, So we it liquidity. digit with higher of we all of expect mid the stays single

Chris McGratty

the Pat, accretion stable your including or on reported And like that number, is – point maybe that just a Okay. relatively that PPP is stripping XX, and NIM out does. Slide the the is guide clarification that a NII, of

Pat Barrett

be That would core NIM. our

out the wouldn’t I the with say that had PPP minus volatility how new quarterly I So liquidity basis timing the of depending plus to particularly and points XX we basis, will of stripping booked to pretty we the a PPP, predict we’re modestly quarterly of away expect challenging which course is already a on from basis. finding over to three forgiveness exceed or each would program of on on handle the see, a flows, But year the impact, quarter. remaining be accretion, hit surprised the

Chris McGratty

great. That’s Okay.

is the or NII, reported interest net that On Is is the income, stable core. comment. that that the

Pat Barrett

It both. actually to be turns out

If the a core each – modest And it of you flat growth, quarter. that’s to loan the basis, of impact of look at on on of purely PPP. so course, from accretion very modest, we’ll away see like timing dependent increases

Chris McGratty

Okay. the tax just that’s a a Got housekeeping, that then tax of you And guide gap, it. gave couple a right. equivalent, not that’s

Pat Barrett

would stated tax afforded that our effective be rate. and Well,

Chris McGratty

Okay.

Pat Barrett

differential the is a modest. We fully of tax screams. equivalent, have don’t lot the tax pretty exempt for So

Chris McGratty

chart left doing one-timers from plans you balance first in with sheet from Okay. quarter? the any And the been the the have guys

Pat Barrett

de say I would minimis.

think it’s is in the $X – there dollar to any So of kind I be range. in million if likely

Chris McGratty

Got it.

lot. a Thanks Okay.

Operator

Tamayo The is ahead. James. go Raymond question with Daniel next from Please

Daniel Tamayo

guys. you? morning, Good are How

Mike Scudder

Danny. Good morning,

Daniel Tamayo

it that prior was efforts. asset see How first the maybe were do optimization increase sensitivity. to an impacts now optimization we to that compare on does your to in Yes, what if sheet the how the short balance rates and

Mike Scudder

Go ahead, Pat.

Pat Barrett

a it’s modest Danny, improvement.

X%, an interest at significant say, shock from perspective. risk to of but take not rate from X% modest. that, not earnings and would puts modestly doesn’t an It So changes It it us meaningfully. us

Daniel Tamayo

and Okay, the got capital do excess And now it. here. environment then improving on is have maybe – you

How having, out having potential and targets. what you’re months extent, few others? the be the kind should those with may changing expectations you’re to If there say by I last conversations over of are

Mike Scudder

things through in us how align and do I with with, how to conversation culturally. can fundamentally, environment, starts trying what up just it do does one, current always any time strategically that take this but not we’re match any for

as bid of always spreads broader terms again, those perspectives fronts, In on there. are wide. these They’re

state sell value just For is than natural buy. some a their are always to reason, who to people looking looking people higher affairs. And that’s think of

So how people think just most out. forward trying get are but going that, out to that’s I look than environment relative and the feet under their other to as to them play to

Daniel Tamayo

priorities helpful. And geographically us about you’re there? area, just you can That’s Okay. sides, remind your and how thinking of

Mike Scudder

business, again, our the operating we diverse in and up strong our a as say, focused in a look metropolitan we operating market. in marketplace and very platform Well, on presence Chicago with broad we’re really

anchoring adjacent we just we So Midwestern real what as the And we – franchise. look to here is did then the Milwaukee. there, value from that a like expand opportunities urban at to of continue much markets in to that

Daniel Tamayo

how And size you recently? Or that is all shifted size? thinking there a particular at are about

Mike Scudder

Well, obviously, we’re a larger company.

size So opportunity. about you have of the to relative to think how does that the change

the a looking strong really on and financial a that commercial grow got and a I aligns really for probably to culturally. into and in and trying it you’ve thing, from easier scale to does to said, mean, brings platform At same do lending the it be able are we build small think with more relationship we’re platform look the as start a start, difficult you billion it’s how up a on that Again, what at does I the of standpoint, where with is do a us to based smaller, context market really it it so. integrate do. what to we important So time, Park to institution

Daniel Tamayo

guys. all appreciate the Understood. I color

Operator

with question is Terry Stephens. McEvoy ahead. next Please from go The

Terry McEvoy

Good morning, everyone.

Mike Scudder

Terry. Hi,

Terry McEvoy

was like a bias Just on when outlook, expense it the downward to maybe a question expenses. presentation, seemed there I read the

it Pat, then You something to But efficiency identifying in you’d would investing talked year. also and be about listening further this on benefits. focus process like, sounded technology that technology

– my cost this over that that dollar there’s of call it a are do guess saves is, Or spending? Does year? just I offset technology maybe expense by the question improve think So you outlook that’s is course if identified. the to of there really opportunities

Mike Scudder

Pat. ahead, Go

Pat Barrett

question. Terry, that’s great Yes. a

includes people which we’re from but a think platform significantly this, to product perspective, I platform, because it year. this in that is also continuing pretty invest

likely flat that think outlook. kind guidance be of the I to is our XXXX reasonably

the that operating go I sort that this to away improvements with XXXX. service as your if growth investments drive ourselves setting efficiency for we further So into the how we’re think customer that? hopeful trends ask the way And investments we’re year, expense I up we and transaction question, digital Roundabout once from start better opportunity do answer volume from we’re further improvements again. is, is impact. how to which so completing self of away obviously impact making it does leverage has potential physical, didn’t

Terry McEvoy

No, follow-up, And Pat. fall focus, Slide some as may of a retail those kind of on great. office of off. an that’s investment X, of XXXX, maybe then other some think of among And the about community. grow those CRE areas importance as elevated CRE, kind I may Thanks, kind risks

those that risk So I have of know, Mark, on of do trends course maybe Thanks. could we’ll you and improved don’t there’s whether retail keep XXXX office, on comment kind some the slide. think it maybe additional where over and this you

Mark Sander

little our and has we’ve the I this rent out way, seen say would – still the quarter collections. Yes. terms in last view, a Terry, think jury stability in over But is of here been occupancy what these I bit.

we’ve business CRE inherently. higher so a for leveraged we’ve as important finance years, about quite an retail talked business, We’ve used as And few some risk time. last on our but cautious been

So these notable still be original over that murky on – that’s time, as will very the where seen. the I few two of in there’s story what mixed think like CRE, to some I our because say, again, as I probably underwriting, remains most will And such are that’s strong, look think feel office years? for we values here stay about good anything, as strong. the been collections about There’s rent success views there. but does And that loan have those a

so there think those these And I I time. see for say, some three as stay – you’ll

Terry McEvoy

everyone. Thanks Great.

Operator

with [Operator Instructions] Race Piper The from Sandler. ahead. Nathan is question next go Please

Nathan Race

Good guys. Hi, Yes. morning.

Mike Scudder

Nate. Hi,

Nathan Race

or here. XXXX continuing in the more or credit just on half of stimulus back off that to through? a in loans of a get abating with we the we just increased guys drive just saw of the somewhat that expected Is perhaps function increase this thoughts worked the kind couple kind that during the as Maybe last of curious further quarters the get just that charge some year just of as some so of is particularly, of you guidance discussion, of function it may out criticized

Mike Scudder

ahead, Go Mark.

Mark Sander

Yes.

I think question. you your answered own

not I them with it’s if take see we like would obviously now. think we that saw clarity. – offs it is charge We really, anything

out there amount make out of But think us look that level believe itself again, some time. we quarter with have the of – enough you they we muted. may seem that two, criticizing that pretty still you to uncertainty believe As next the we there’s when that to over just there’s or classified have, manifest

our best really it So is guess migration. reflects all on that’s that

Nathan Race

take function And for gears then of recently. the X% Understood. that’s share in just seen kind M&A kind guidance Curious X% growth and year market a are going and Chicago that of or to tuning moderation little the this some of just transactions payoffs continuing and some demand think we’ve bit this a the shifting of to guys at of you just around point. client about if to loans. just Or with

Mark Sander

bit – say compete strongly of that this having above you guess, with little team bit the which can right that by we Nathan, A it I little starts of of win, do. feel all a the I at feel would and sorry way,

up little think – share. market of pick it’s I I can So a bit we think

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Nathan Race

got quarter in If trading ongoing capital more M&A know is ask the appetite well, one thoughts buyback the ratios board, any could buyback, as year. I an any believe I fourth and on or increased Okay, buybacks, capital obviously particularly consideration thoughts just this across it. today. here. I just share but I just on guess where given the really stocks on the just

Mike Scudder

Pat. ahead Go

Pat Barrett

to more and The the payout powder foremost or are probably for for already which priorities a that means. first talked fund Yes, rate, we steady, about utilization dry which be last is organic in a from good we and Mike’s as to buybacks about through laid normal have expect of or would near-term feel sustaining where kind ratio we’ve pretty to other capital M&A, then kind optimization be our to returning level, capital normal outlook which remain dividend is of out, and growth. growth a

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but bit little planning have. that a discussion recurring to it going us to about share for, quarterly we’ll this be is talking to think premature you or I feels a repurchases, guiding for should expect be

So and more we I’d around growth say gain more come credit outcomes. both as ultimate certainty to

Mike Scudder

have would I and well be with dialogue is what inactive Pat that a tail end. as emphasize we add investors ongoing and so. Yes. an This there at frankly, the ongoing will to said the board with and that

Nathan Race

taking Okay, great. I Thank questions. you you. guys appreciate

Mike Scudder

Great, thanks.

Mark Sander

Nathan. Thanks,

Operator

with The next Michael Truist question from is Please go Young Securities. ahead.

Michael Young

mentioned. the the taking you capital just to return ask question. a for commentary thanks on Hey, Wanted follow-up

that I valuation times over levels. criticized X.X Is share activity despite would So little buyback assume a increases understand are be would fair? stocks at but the at elevated, tangible, in classifieds I priority these M&A M&A

Mike Scudder

best shareholders to the is always us. kind to return and answer deployment stated me what available choice our the of we same, let goal that to – have differently that of the for capital the is is Yes, the

So if time. every the so have look those be it screen those – an to that through against yes, of you’re kind opportunities relative right, returns standpoint, if risk the weighed the and that’s from projects, we come world in a acquisition where

you’re a where operating have in how to deploy world that So relative today so. to with about valuations, you where think are it they

Michael Young

Mike, can maybe be of you – And I a more where around as interest strategy just get geographic follow-up once level kind once you to get back we on M&A guess evaluation you Is cost bolt-on on expand early cycle there kind there. still acquisitions? to just and need active of feel geographically like focus you kind do of Or from this the is out here? and

Mike Scudder

where We of go really haven’t we are terms in who to strategically our what we changed and do. thoughts relative

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is our there hasn’t changed size our really other larger. than So strategy

us, the opportunities what that larger the be changed. really available So of to certainly strategic to trying impact – to be the to relative impactful, be hasn’t we’re are have goal and do can more but

Michael Young

And then in last me, lot of kind just growth of your one organic there’s opportunities, hiring market. on for a and the been M&A

loan costs, it of I want talent of potentially up adders kind an at of this rationalization to focus here, the point with producers as in opportunity from net do out sets of be cycle? assume think we there’s would you hearing some So there. Should or a on

Mark Sander

Mike. me take Let that

Mike Scudder

ahead, Mark. Go

Mark Sander

good themselves want It’s just net Yes. always not quickly. I producers, relationship managers, Good I a pay managers relationship loans, might full say clear. very good loan relationship. would its be Michael to for

producers. in the market strong we And always will be so for

times, of we in lot I the And the so targets to we changing and to growth up topping add opposed even don’t we as our good more have. bad it’s anything that few people add but need talent a that’s a have, we’ll think out that expect of hit but to that people, to philosophy. times

Michael Young

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Daniel Raymond ahead. from James. The with go next Please Tamayo question is a follow-up

Daniel Tamayo

Hey, thanks.

net sure to that for that from XXXX I million $XX here, just understand the round, your quickly program. guidance kind the does interest PPP $XX million include to make Just you income second expectation the of I want the

Mike Scudder

Go ahead, Pat.

Operator

Mr. still line ours. your Barrett, on open did you on end? You’re your meet

Pat Barrett

does, it apologies. and the guide. PPP or essentially the offsets not, same decline you in offset that Well, with Danny, make include accretion – but up still sense? the that end you Is whether

Daniel Tamayo

correctly that I the I that of that, side. understand. No, sure just I understood terms to in make wanted reported

Pat Barrett

Yes. of I impact for but quite just mean just I all, ongoing at reflecting steady, accretion NII, away the our improvement away quarterly, core from modest would expect PPP growth.

the for year. X%-ish like So

actual So XXXX. expect offset in improved would or PPP not include PPP decline in in that versus have the will you significant, accretion kind the we of accretion, increased if that we scheduled

those a to delta the between tends So year-on-year. two be wash

Daniel Tamayo

going about mortgage Is then big mortgage really banking the the Or the XXXX quarter of that the to really Is in from that forward. down? XX% side. fall numbers fourth forecast awesome. of And that the margin driving spike is within decline? that origination thinking fourth you’re right. kind on that quarter, in to issue? assuming talked off elevated That’s what’s industry the in you similar to XX% a number work banking, about of you a that All going how was Okay. the I’m a through are is side kind margin the

Mike Scudder

Go Mark. ahead,

Mark Sander

answer a Danny. short This Yes. is

said decline this a a but expecting little versus QX to we’re that quarter of was we’ll now it favorable a have bit come a XXXX, first robust, bit of QX overall expecting so the not – down presumably We’re that the year. comparison

Daniel Tamayo

in margin Okay. a that, And the really spike that it in big quarter fourth the was that drove increase.

Mark Sander

price sale is in The Yes. mortgage.

really fourth we’re strong – nice the in quarter. We’re

And sheet not on or We to just sale. balance trade so took price advantage advantage we between putting of of the take enough the just was it. sale attractive the our

Daniel Tamayo

Understood, for okay, thanks. thanks. That’s me, all

Operator

from from Please Instructions] [Operator question McGratty follow-up from go Chris him next KBW. ahead. Our is a

Chris McGratty

about special did it, might’ve what portfolio any which color Yes, maybe? went thanks. mentions, in What provide $XX up but about the you I million? increase the missed

Mike Scudder

ahead, Go Mark.

Mark Sander

almost We did entirely and quarter, came in fitness the not Chris. from recreation that

Chris McGratty

in notable And you just given it Okay. coming there, reopening – improvement just off Mark? story COVID the changes are seeing what’s with those deferral, loans pace of the is

Mark Sander

downgrade The clarity caused of the it credits improvement long and us how on, might latter, Chris, really go the that few a there. that, pace with just to which it’s

Chris McGratty

Okay, thanks.

Pat Barrett

Chris, Hey this you’re correct I wanted on, myself. Pat, to just is while

that million, QX. were said should million, up. optimization You $X asking costs And I I but wrap should kind around have it ongoing in about said of $X one-time

Chris McGratty

thanks. Got it,

Operator

further I the turn now there Scudder over to closing back Mr. will If any no for are remarks. questions, call

Mike Scudder

thanks. Great,

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day. So great a have

Operator

gentlemen, this participating parties the now Thank and all may have and for today. All concludes for you day. Ladies a conference disconnect. nice

First Midwest Bancorp (ONBPP) 27 Jan 212020 Q4 Earnings call transcript