IVZ - Earnings call transcript Q2 2024

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Operator

Welcome to Invesco's Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].

As a reminder, today's call is being recorded.

Now I'd turn today's call over to Mr. Greg Ketron, Invesco's Head of Investor Relations. you. Thank

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Gregory Ketron

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Andrew Schlossberg

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Allison Dukes

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Operator

First Instructions] Evercore. from comes with [Operator question Glenn Schorr

Glenn Schorr

of fee qualify. came ETFs says, The that's shift and down I result first want correct? on a bullet not sure ] rate couple of a some and range fee mix multi-asset. to actual just basically, make adjustments, [ Just ongoing that

Allison Dukes

is Glenn. That correct,

see both spectrum We of mix across adjustments. continue product to within those capability categories, just real the no fee continued there,

Glenn Schorr

And a just more bit maybe then little color.

interesting. comments you to the related and And two for picking made said was you to that on APAC to forward-leaning know don't fixed the You income, that specifically, was this were continues was up? play in other RFPs related One flows out. think green the shoots dynamic China one if I

if expand So on could I comments. wonder you those two

Andrew Schlossberg

Yes. for questions. Maybe I'll start, the Glenn, thanks

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Allison Dukes

No.

Andrew Schlossberg

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Operator

with Brennan The next question from comes UBS. Hawken

Brennan Hawken

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Allison Dukes

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Brennan Hawken

G&A? should believe G&A us that sustainable? what I a about that a professional in said that's bit drove quarter. fees about in a you how be thinking potential we going the you lower be little to this forward? related Could as lower Is maybe tailwind And color give here thinking

Allison Dukes

tailwind going costs to you from consulting, as of costs, implementation I think a just is, transparency implementation, alpha platform think trying have much expenses legal, of as quarter-to-quarter as into think everything thing don't outsource to would of those vary that are it so I types provide various we not as overall but and our the been we've system. the of only we're course, projects ever about on working

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Brennan Hawken

lumpy. basically just So

Operator

from question Cowen. next comes TD Bill Our with Katz

William Katz

horizon? could a relationships you may incremental if And more wondering else INREIT. there I working comments the of maybe little be on? into are diving your are unpack beyond you that What sort democratization on around in any was distribution bit retail

Andrew Schlossberg

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William Katz

follow-up, guidance. return. a capital you for the back Thank coming to as Just updated

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understand should of trying Just return. how capital that about think the durability we to

Allison Dukes

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Operator

The of next Bank comes Craig with Siegenthaler question from America.

Craig Siegenthaler

come X% We back wanted in to growth organic to the quarter. rate the

the Given sizable versus to equities, ETF relative organic did inflows in trend redemptions X%. revenue growth fundamental net how

Allison Dukes

organic want to X%? I'm your How growth is revenue understanding sure the to make I relative just the question. trending

Craig Siegenthaler

Allison. Yes,

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Allison Dukes

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Andrew Schlossberg

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Craig Siegenthaler

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Allison Dukes

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Operator

Autonomous comes Davitt question from Patrick next Research. with Our

Patrick Davitt

probably in bit on better a move quarter, the to bit to little trajectory, it. drawdown want was of I imagine I drag fee the a a obviously, back but rate April the

feel you you cadence maybe So run how the how rate June? could you given monthly XQ speak through to the And about exited XQ?

Allison Dukes

Yes.

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we set exposures Given in have really footprint, can't moving that of manage on you market is day. a direction which diversified any our such what global given

point quarter exit XX.X exit was the for to rate, the second I around points. So which rate basis would the

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flow something flows coming from. I rate and to proud a The X% to where is it's quite up. I where revenue. the organic So to, demand. think of is simply back we're our end is with client of yield It's focused And organic and we're of would revenue. very continue focused function. revenue are driving on it a math on aligned net breadth of, difficult platform predict how testament come to exactly We're it driving the

Andrew Schlossberg

is which the for and a a very capabilities, period diversity outline something forward in that seen net why to continue I And be time in long of broadening of last try investment looking assets all some think prolongs, the range time. I of short what and think the reasons or for over we've all to been markets we've should our one the out, we that to of if last two, us. week the positive

Patrick Davitt

China with punching to is popular recovery the broader pretty getting pretty obviously political nice rhetoric a be It's bag. it heated both in parties, but big flows, question. then And see obviously will the China, and a seems it

that gain safe trade these war ] be it's I what China? tough the broader the sure, So U.S. JV you you have? a between out give would things but [ for could Or do on assurances know to and

Andrew Schlossberg

remind you obviously, about complex business. it's on It's that one, domestic a to Yes. a is JV answer. domestic our to China thing One I'll

the So in we all of all assets market in managed the and of that assets manage market. are investors for individual are that

so a don't add I very is is you'd very And resilient. and there if Allison? the anything, business -- know relationship strong focused partner our it's and really

Allison Dukes

Yes.

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Operator

The next Goldman Blostein Alex question with comes from Sachs.

Alexander Blostein

could into around I little broadly. was a business Invesco's hoping we dig strategy more ETF the

shift earlier, see of fee and and So continue sort bit. But here. guys rate to it's you lower consistent to a to little there, been your continues you growth out point the good nice that's to really see broaden

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Andrew Schlossberg

question. for broaden yes, down. Yes. growth the the has Thanks And

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to market the of in loans be to, lineup, And then the things alongside like in of fixed fundamental those been of passive growth placed as alternative spaces. then pretty days to demand. equities, particular significant and of the or continue fixed in area one forward. And a geographically, alternative in U.S. And space. on We're our bank find is heavy well going feel in strategies, grow like has has So favor commodities think continue outside been we going of back earlier continue credit there's which to the some in and income those growth that greatest markets we historically areas income very

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Alexander Blostein

for you well? for takes G&A of for through XXXX the one as full and the sort to thoughts A discussion. to and earlier Allison, the you kind in continues out quarter. are as early any round as out XXXX, G&A expectations But Alpha on highlighted kind just couple what G&A outlook the for linger of of of puts maybe year zooming

Allison Dukes

Sure.

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Operator

Jefferies. question next comes Our from Dan Fannon with

Daniel Fannon

that Andrew, follow I where one mean, like X of was would I always to Slide you wanted up about organic be growth. something you talked focused seems I guess, comments on your on. from, profitable

it business just maybe exit So certain RFPs curious what prospectively terms or of that in have businesses? to to you're you're looking if there's looking behind done might anything like before? you Or take more maybe is what what's versus on more

Andrew Schlossberg

Yes.

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Daniel Fannon

set them their a if then ] I distribution alternative update as your you in the to there? your what [ any into tapping an see on terms hoping relationship helping follow-up, and franchise just also then And update of broader force, MassMutual build get there's into been was product them

Andrew Schlossberg

a I to strong that we it be continues relationship Yes. tremendously. really mean value

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Allison Dukes

our amplified evaluate to be faster. leverage Andrew they launches. our mean real sheet continue great to capabilities I investing and partners products noted, just in particular own they've partners get a variety we from capabilities, I as to future to really Yes. product as balance to just our across -- market of estate would CLO strong our And ability

Andrew Schlossberg

for utilize and other well. And needs sources capital as to

Operator

have We more one for time question.

last Worthington with Ken Our question JPMorgan. from comes

Kenneth Worthington

Can funded flows. I bit to little pipeline? far. in come give You saw and about in solutions that like not haven't used one institutional thus think nice you factor a buckets up us conversation tell major you and the size recovery a institutional the

Allison Dukes

this quarter. range. Sure. kind billion pretty last I with pipeline the around institutional is billion, consistent said Everyone stays $XX $XX of

is pipeline outside okay flows not can measure of but what excellent I expect, we the our pipeline. in the of think the of find we that given just continue come what to breadth is an

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Andrew Schlossberg

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Allison Dukes

to but Current gross prior relative these quarters. is strength sales Redemptions the really driven by the picked up really in the quarter sales. bit five little are really a better, it's

Gregory Ketron

another do we operator, for question. Yes, have time

Operator

question from Michael with Cyprys comes Stanley. Morgan the And last

Michael Cyprys

see -- expand do of for in the sort shift given tax-exempt to of that regulatory as changes in expect the ETFs you where and what out opportunity maybe deflation of could your and recent looking Just in also a Hoping market question that growth [indiscernible] could that on evolving how see on business Japan. out, in then little talk hoping how And you footprint a could about Japan about talk I you the some the and well? evolving marketplace and just marketplace you today. your accounts, the has grown. elaborate the opportunity and bit outlook business products you was to strategies

Andrew Schlossberg

it's Yes, a great me let start. question,

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Gregory Ketron

we one Operator, time more have question. for do

Operator

next Brian Deutsche last Bedell from Bank. The comes our and question with question

Brian Bedell

around back still and the net XX any ETF Just most area yield flow basis relative neutral, coming then equities. conviction fund? And that actually equities process the presentation if that's Clearly, performance comment that's getting made maybe there? side, rate you're a might sort revenue traction realize funds, market from of improve grow the to earlier that talk on in any Can of maybe, but have in you to focus small, there's aside about fee Andrew, across to mutual sales performance points, the I developing ETF on to back, franchise and very fundamental about perspective. how the you active if fundamental any the the the to potential you a improved accretive the from for the the leveraging XX

Andrew Schlossberg

Yes.

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Allison Dukes

add passive to expectations to industry would best the every on we're I industry comes focused it the we're when are to from we see just expectations active equity. outperform challenges aspect. mean to we shifts looking the secular as that. not said, in for to given continue the I That strong and fundamental can inflows and there. Industry outperforming

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Andrew Schlossberg

potentially value areas. markets, said have of mid-cap investment And markets, think as in out broadening into mean the strong non-U.S. I before, performance small we the very those I I

So returning, demand we're optimistic. pockets with cautiously of some

Okay.

mention that happening want market to changes closing, through evolving positioned their the in to help that it subsequent well dynamics navigate clients that, of came are So and in really hopefully, we're I impact portfolios.

As anticipate for everybody this out our given to thank Investor any want interest should for We I questions. future joining your of for today, very the speaking in scale, continue to please to and ability Invesco. I call again soon. appreciate to to evolving And with and Relations really everybody to needs. translate work team the done market understand reach look our forward and the additional Invesco sentiment we've performance say to excited client profitability. and can even meet strengthen greater I'm improves, the improve

Operator

that conference. And you. Thank concludes today's

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Invesco (IVZ) 23 Jul 242024 Q2 Earnings call transcript