DTE - Earnings call transcript Q3 2024

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the DTE Energy Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Matt Krupinski, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Matt Krupinski

morning, good and you, everyone. Thank

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financial operating includes references reconciliation earnings, a to Our presentation in measure. earnings the to refer to also Please GAAP provided which operating is non-GAAP earnings of the appendix.

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Gerardo Norcia

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Joi Harris

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David Ruud

everyone. morning, good and Joi, Thanks,

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Operator

[Operator Instructions]

comes from Partners. question Shar from first Our Pourreza Guggenheim

Shahriar Pourreza

Just obviously, congrats the on quarter.

going needs to helpful. run forward the the update I XQ kind at what stage? would And that system that of maybe want generation the appreciate to to but in be that don't $XX needs of reconsideration, prompt billion a moving is financial plan. you sense about Just reference Can any you just print, QX the update, talk removed you're front super could seeing a but CapEx there this just terms

Gerardo Norcia

a That's that the incremental X,XXX seeing opportunity over components, And for years, it of take fact Shar. generation, to by by primarily the already next And we and driven forecasted we're seeing, the we've I'll the subscribe queue. major had voluntary good X we filled what question, that's there are X investment. megawatts renewables

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Shahriar Pourreza

audit. residency just XXXX, outages target And need still Is a sort Jerry, some storm the the there result as that audits, well the sounded by you spending additional resiliency of half it as that sounds in is plan cutting meet Got storm of the like and it like correct? on it. and to but of

Gerardo Norcia

add opportunity. We may you But want do that. incremental to Joi, the

Joi Harris

on commitments, serve results and really service align with those deliver Yes, the quality reliability yes. standards those X-year PSC. confirmation our as The plan by the commitments of to Yes, sure.

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Shahriar Pourreza

sheet. Got on upside there's lastly, bias mean strong a like it. got funding balance it $XX sounds you've I to needs. very then just that And And Perfect. some obviously, billion. the just

You plan? sheet some minimal when needs? the equity changes you take talked $XXX roll be incremental forward that Do between funding needs could about on Do CapEx? to capacity to the envision have billion you Or the there balance you incremental $X range. your

David Ruud

to equity anticipate this great quarter The that support Dave. do more. our and cash these have out period. continue We we that capital changing $X on that through Again, IRAs But into we'll flow update plan, generation. saw we current our investments. years. is more fourth don't Shar, to we all on have we'll X plan the $XXX get next the million to you of update through and call, In that years,

that So that, we'll capital confident support the plan too. we're have can

Shahriar Pourreza

Okay.

of think sort answered that I it.

Operator

ISI. Durgesh from from comes question next Evercore Our Chopra

Durgesh Chopra

QX, think thinking think last QX from kind materially QX you've the some QX progress in help through you my firming to made guidance I plan. Just of QX like can help it maybe are versus how hitting Maybe the point your what you're over walk us 'XX? Jerry, about 'XX seems range? you Are Dave, puts as of -- Joi, costs your think us to just year and sorry, 'XX guidance? midpoint just of your much 'XX. about of about I'm your do of and takes to ahead when especially date you into of moving year-to-date,

David Ruud

take Durgesh, as and driver the some and us. Sure, we're margins. you Yes. year, right. big a of start we I'll we is that. next that year, were by electric, have It's And last to year. you which, saying storms quarter, And had additional impacting remember, good relative doing last weather some I'll that well

you better. see doing our So can is electric

of like versus Also, kind is the well, too. We're our for doing year-to-date expectations, versus $XX of guidance at year. trading expectations, million million your $XX

that some favorability. does So provide

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Durgesh Chopra

-- It you a there? rule-making sorry, looking discussions the decisions performance-based quick Maybe are just are follow-up. does. on helpful. like the Can what docket, update what That's us the

Joi Harris

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Operator

Tonet comes Jeremy question next JPMorgan. from Our from

Jeremy Tonet

wanted if Just Vantage I start to side, with could.

time on able talk RNG on if more of you more you guess, bit progressing. side a line might carbon I capture wondering And maybe as custom see to I Just well, guess, the that there. solutions the the be how bit a

David Ruud

to in pipeline areas. nice really all a We those continue have

year. coming projects. have project mentioned we We online have some We R&D an this

opportunities opportunities in business, custom the solutions, some the by to we as some good work conversion have supported continue -- there that We that IRA, too. has energy us given

pipeline as coming talked a about with throughout good Ford online, industrials well. we and see other we that's the project So

some we to CCS some smaller then be just more them update continuing those on-site to doing be CCS, and are with projects, advance able year. we'll next as to hope that And mentioned, throughout

Jeremy Tonet

you it. fund How you to some time, needed? talked about of this do rotation if helpful. think segment And as utility you about think CapEx given some of the about in potential portfolio that, Got help before. That's upside items to over

Gerardo Norcia

as We're upside invest -- see Yes. much certainly from we manage expect we what continue capital, utility in to we'll earnings we and how Vantage.

we greater utility do see So on the emphasis future. in capital

Operator

next from comes Our Barclays. from Campanella question Nick

Nicholas Campanella

as the kind of flattish, lot just of year. to of also how are growth? know we that this of I maybe a get take ambitions. peers kind center kind wanted ask, passed we of roughly think I the bill are about the you you then of kind your about roll their load been and about but it's load of forward, thinking data could kind talk ability the up And status to seeing

Gerardo Norcia

terms of what sales haven't see use at did the arrangements portion And Well, flat we of the passed of recess centers, -- what the closed before the data that X-year growth a we with bill any and tax, interest. plan, the legislation, our is in in House. is in point, but summer the used we're and tax seeing our and plan we demand lot this essentially Nick, forecast have

it duck session that continues sign here And its waiting have indicate House governor will the As it work. election. the you after -- the Senate. lame recall, if it's to to the already gets that to some And for commitment do finish has just be it. we taken up a he'll desk, We're the through in

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sales talking The tax a and we're them. exemption also to and have use aggregators already

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Nicholas Campanella

just full on it this of there. electric case we distance then to for the quick guess me. I kind Okay, take appreciate that's you in wanted case settlement? a expecting And be that. Is it and get I here update helpful. just quickly. check that the to a shouldn't I that's And the still base

Joi Harris

Yes. that at really capital to put a I think Staff's we constructive. we can of work our get low definitively point, probability this sheer but There's some But we'll number believe will on and settlement It January. outcome, given plans we're the up pressure just is in a we'll know of position intervenors. still near-term through. interveners, constructive

Operator

Our Morgan David next question comes Arcaro from Stanley. from

David Arcaro

Let returns? ROE lower rate in recommendation gas there just gas perspective of maybe of terms been case me and the affordability the change on your that backdrop see, maybe on ALJ we reflecting any things, the wondering, the has case, in was in side have commission's than would thought. And from perspective on rates and

Joi Harris

Yes.

exceptions in position constructive. was were -- the their we which line initial you staff and after the their testimony, If with testimony, right ALJ's look feel so at

really rate with feel about the gas we stand good case. So where we

We will know the couple weeks. next in of definitively

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David Arcaro

Yes. Got then X,XXX you. the Where That on And you megawatts that has subscribed? currently see been maybe Absolutely. from renewables. program? makes sense. the maybe momentum you that going that just voluntary have could in How

Gerardo Norcia

enough on year-end that seem team. the expectations. megawatts. be high I always a can't I X,XXX at They've target that but certainly, than put that update it to say exceed higher We'll always will call,

more full book we I So X,XXX that. still the so for forecasted that megawatts filled, should significant see has opportunity, -- had say. And come order on And been next X years. we to

Operator

Jefferies next comes Jefferies. from Our question Julien Dumoulin-Smith from

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

following Maybe quickly here. Excellent. question on Nick's super up

here, with near-term duck have that Just second you a to inflection Jerry, mean to lame said would is use tax the tax I what an just of opportunity? you expect? in back use success Or sales a go think the obviously of here. capacity ago, implications more you you availability -- longer-dated on the of how mean, successful is I sense here terms here, much do

understand progress the to parallel. in want those and conversations having timing the you're in Just

Gerardo Norcia

Sure.

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in House of end So the bill half we other of the expect the year. move this before the to along

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Julien Dumoulin-Smith

here here? you here. about tend chunk a rock How infrastructure it's and ask the think it's you it. think the don't to to recovery the how IRM metrics there's think pivoting but cases that meaningful of a about hand ask ask you the pressure conversation maybe for do improve and cases obviously, How of -- think and Excellent. about And serial mean here. place, know if the given mean, I overall just potential you cadence here? then get I about I of clear a you a the do mean little bit pretty wish report full rate I hard the to that in audit last do that? the

Joi Harris

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Gerardo Norcia

case, gets how probably our we in significant may that grow move and I this do should the reduce as this not getting that planning And cases. think, Julien, frequency rate audit of so along understanding can with see we the lands we're a adopted and to process, of but we commission's willingness in we rate signals IRM the Yes. finalized movement forward, of see sort

between will cases, So I time like more mentioned, I level wants. take everybody some will rate a we could we year, where to before it we think these several past this put cases it think take, rate get which

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

that it's got to And there. sight you've indeed. of hear good some Excellent. Yes, line All right. and conversations

Operator

next Our question from comes Wolfe Michael Research. from Sullivan

Michael Sullivan

refresh off guess of will on being with question rate about that think you time to Or terms kind get and at case given QX forward? this prior to your in Is picking we is to pending forward to ultimately shift going you're time? going rate cases? Or how back depending it cases on target be X the going cases going of on long-term up more line a to you moving I of the in made Just any continually hold that QX? since should last decision pending. cadence obviously,

David Ruud

Michael, it's David.

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Michael Sullivan

Okay. maybe think And looking just segment? you over out Is that just QX? continue? into then the strength there already that you have mentioned year in expecting And Dave, the next the I that for what full shifting guide. trading, some seeing year-to-date to you're going reversal year, in is are Or to you strength

David Ruud

right. Yes, you're

say a to in physical and year. this is our And really I based good Like will contracted $XX guidance gas said, versus at hedge $XX portfolio off are I positions portfolio. our of start on this our We million. performance and million gas we're

in that reversal fourth anything big coming that the see So we or don't dramatically. a quarter change should

FRS said But on higher we'll we quarter have we'll are call some done few better times a we've some margins before. fourth they give call, forward, on a this than power as we've contracts that We looks. they you this at -- seen update the look had and lot again, contracts, and look we when of X-year through these

going do this reason in business we some for too. So see optimism forward,

Michael Sullivan

just then And drivers did think to quickly, Great. QX. trying for think mention the upcoming last Okay. about just I someone one,

remind cost showed potentially remain So if you at ago going terms kind to reversal this would just cutting of coming. there's QX reversing Can be did is and whether any onetime up you trading of that year that or a us in strong year? no the of in least

David Ruud

did. We Yes.

remember, you our on were If we year, no barred holds last O&M.

have so this year And some costs into year. come those back of relative last to

costs If you with does then the of year, come tough this faced some in. been that away weather last gas say will some had storm year. has take I we And

see it appendix be up the to of working almost we're to We to that will some But the try of weather. $XX that challenging too. made You'll but in have million that. range, within it's that

can that strong expect So too. year we quarter. that seeing good ways be and fourth to will the it and in But find through again, play to that, we're a this XXXX year support year continue a

Operator

comes question Fremont next from from Our Paul Ladenburg.

Paul Fremont

least the years? would business at put at targeted the credits that, you I contribution your above course expect look tax of range nonregulated are Great. your expected that year, the over XX, next When that next several the would

David Ruud

that a same that of tax will we our for RNG are thing a our XXZs, 'XX, will are 'XX they come through which favorable into we'll to our But business, quarter, do the tax when back go say we over update answer times. gave few call fourth probably more updates give growth I'll all our credit, as were better I've we our I when Yes. give fourth that These X and production on given and that in give wasn't hitting earnings couple and that over those but to years, EPS on years, those there, will -- quarter well, still be the going us favorable knew growth flexibility on some Paul. cutting confidence we hitting it's to go few and 'XX this. the into we to credit X

Paul Fremont

because temporary And targets, than the the the Z allow of mean of targeted to be XX nature higher of be of in I those I sort that terms you would willing mean, to range contributions? percentage

David Ruud

Yes.

on not at try give to our will all We of year update we it when piecemeal full our to guidance businesses. give call. fourth on the all guidance all quarter give that trying year We're the and through across once

So we'll update call. that quarter the fourth fully on

Paul Fremont

Great. last question is, you did of it the And type range. number put above your in if you my of way sort guess I you would the fourth guidance did same quarter,

year? So should we your you're now least assume end higher the for we at at at this least of guidance least right should towards that tracking range

David Ruud

guidance within range. come expect We in our to

corporate, will some us XXXX little timing support but taxes will how in bit are again, those to We ranges bring reverse well. effect electric a we looking And in kind that of also of -- issues, as within timing can. issues not there's

Operator

question comes Bill from from Appicelli Our next UBS.

William Appicelli

Just Can impact couple too. the here, year-end timing questions items? numbers quantify on the a the of you tax of

David Ruud

million. they and Yes. together, There's a And are about corporate. $XX little bit at electric

William Appicelli

there's that track? Okay. that still $XX about million then an in step-up And implying million, $XX year-to-date, QX. on Vantage, looks on Is it like

David Ruud

still that's Yes, on track. Yes,

William Appicelli

Okay.

the and forth, projects service there's going development no those issues So so into there? of

David Ruud

And The in within No. the we're Jerry their one there's quarter that will the the City of credits and central tax and that and X for there's the big talking one large the doing in the energy is quarter. Ford both Ford is systems plant come where project into service at about investment call, going the Blue service, associated fourth in drive was Tennessee that that already the in -- will some income facility.

William Appicelli

increase there on provide Okay. I you assuming sensitivity relatively kind load, but starts can a we that, it's the on upside of And you're through mean, perspective? Is for potential we legislation economic if then large for an flat, can earnings to materialize. in for if think from development is there think sensitivity about comes potential about or the any large the additional C&I

Gerardo Norcia

Well, margin I we'll what the support to do affordability initiatives. we'll our think use incremental is

putting as will land we load I this bill without an our capital plans be customers. pressure to think there opportunity on accelerate our

margin. we I So think how that's will the use incremental

will here position because size of the contract very that's data with Michigan, a yet but some it they're in in looking discussions locate in not to it's to that early centers the probably potential our We're It against. us how for would create and deployed. We've be be to backlog business. affordability it an headroom distribution play, that as a in would invest got turn, massive deployed in

accelerate $X attachment billion the without but could next years, acceleration off. pressure looking that. X are of We And invest to type margin we easily that that over creating could bill enable

William Appicelli

of additional existing do adequate? structure in large Or would reviewed be place context you to I have that need lastly, you think loads? then And tariff mean, that is an Okay.

Gerardo Norcia

So quite for work the existing will well. we existing capacity, think we've got tariff that an

opportunity, wouldn't create also enough would long have capacity enough brought a customers. ensuring in that tariff that additions tailored design would existing term we we asset and stranded that situation For that margin for come from at to look this the of long-dated type for could a any we

Operator

Our next comes Karp question from Sophie KeyBanc. from

Sophie Karp

a think with customer of else those right, sort that's moderate bills. or and accomplish And see you on if will, my right, answered. have I think Or the might costs if potential wanted keep the of ambitiousness case potential securitization this in structure? that need that of to it's increases? increases, that's storm other come that customer audit any the go that of incorporating need I to do just the for was your wondering I we offsetting to was And one goals, rate can ahead your you storm of existing that of rate the had within you of kind plan. growth right, A Maybe slow. on mechanisms to you ask future been the report, when capital the customer needed capital impact read potential the and lot the you concerns sort consultants results bill you going from [indiscernible] something questions into plan the

Gerardo Norcia

and say XX% by deep capital the into the So affordability capital the XX%. ambitious that audit anticipates our and we get the I how that by plan would plan achieve to duration this frequency our X-year really plans of didn't reducing need our Obviously, work audit the of will increase overall more the you -- this. a was into if It would put distribution face enough, of value, pressure all our and financials condition recommendations. the audit business. interestingly on capital through And physical to

But XX bills, over presentation, so pointed we've you'll that as see affordability invested And our our we out, goals. -- in -- $X even managed over regard. our like costs last managed we're and we're we've and downward performing though had in Page achieving the assets of also portfolio, Joi we've on X feel pressure confident billion very renewable that in on years, our and fuel extraordinary are the putting how

performance we So on that affordability. we remain we confident continue extraordinary to deliver to continue that can

Sophie Karp

Okay.

in now? mechanisms your So structural for need no any right new new view

Gerardo Norcia

any point anticipate We time. in this don't at

Sophie Karp

of loss ] the right not for sure of that's that that maybe opportunities growth kind And you in [ kind large there of ask that's the of Okay. like to then if are business. customers. if But are seeing fit any take in opportunities if right? the I on I don't know advantage strategic business -- can I'm Vantage, you potential there?

Gerardo Norcia

I air customers. call, having like central that. mean heating, you business we conversations in generation if center plant and assets think where And We custom what I as are energy that opportunities -- we're are well the potential other, provide for and solutions business data those there assets, services water having energy line those cooling with would the line, conversations. as and about cogeneration

Operator

Morningstar. question last will from from Miller come Travis Our

Travis Miller

to wrap a up Just things. of couple

something going metrics to your perhaps this pathway you pathway on over after your last the view closes? the as the is do some what this with response, even something see the Is have years? Or file this? maybe is that audit, you What's you up On meet long, come there? for to that

Joi Harris

process. how incorporate plans. in our on to looking to are at have really There file the formal and Yes. continuing is conversations mid-November, with responses the our the no staff we we We'll findings and end into the findings

closes in docket proceedings. of then discussions think anything I regulatory I would everyone results future providing And that with a staff, be incorporated their essentially anticipate, either the basis, comments. with go-forward will on

Gerardo Norcia

And multiple that that mean, for grid gets with really we're the audit plan, to times meeting staff as Joi digest the which now works well distribution which plan, And in right secure of I them a updated. us staff sort week the the for it vehicle make formulate kind and is audit to more mentioned, with our our be of grid independent terms good building will start of supported by really, secure predictability. and distribution into a investments process really for the the to future,

opportunities achieve plan the we're So also goals fine-tuning excited team work the our of to and some that about that the well and is pointed level putting and into audit address staff if effort and out. the the of engagement the

Joi Harris

really collaborative process. Yes,

Gerardo Norcia

High-quality products. Yes.

Travis Miller

kind audit idea you're outcome the that in bringing tying performance-based talking the And could of those that say of be you something on together? rates, of whole docket, about metrics kind that of that an is just would

Gerardo Norcia

in really in case. was The as And incorporated that there symmetry. prespecification rate Joi, there is striving a already heard gets but it that's and case, more and next metrics Well, to in the deals rates we're amount be in docket could this about incorporated rate little be potential is there that good there that performance-based in also not for separate not reasonable. feel some But the we with you've no in scope. performance-based there's from rates, this address a docket will that

the direction. heart be delivering to does investment. be So our like It supported customers, it's go we to moving and the for of feels by should I going in really it it's right what think

investments the will highly So that PVR feel be we like supported by we're making.

sitting we're with comfortable direction the it's So in.

Travis Miller

issues seen you And Great. growth quick, chain got? then the Okay. real in renewable supply that energy any

Gerardo Norcia

nailed panels, We're in the pretty solar next we've down. and good for X of lined got that terms years up

don't issues. we any see So

we is being those speak. Our and battery as are underway, fabricated plant systems project well

like chain a supply feel there we So we've runway got from perspective. a good

Operator

call further for We remarks. closing turn back questions. Jerry Norcia over would to the have like I no to

Gerardo Norcia

for for healthy everyone, by a close seeing years. feeling great forward I'll in have today. as morning. saying you, our weeks, safe. a EEI future about really thank XXXX us as at Well, well Stay to and good you position few and just look joining we're We

Operator

conference for Thank today's participation. you concludes your This call.

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DTE Energy (DTE) 24 Oct 242024 Q3 Earnings call transcript