BECKY LIGGERO:
Outstanding. Love it. And I know on your panel, one of the panelists mentioned that there’s something like 2.5 billion net revenue available if casinos would just flick on the switch and have online. What I wanted to get an idea of, from you is, how important is it to have the whole the whole offering? So beyond just sports betting, to have casino, to have poker, to have bingo, in order to reach this kind of net revenue?
GREG CARLIN:
That’s a great question. In the U.S., I’m not sure anyone’s live with bingo yet but we think that’s a real interesting vertical and I know that’s on our roadmap as far as a product we’d like to add to our arsenal. Also, we haven’t launched poker yet. Poker in the U.S. is interesting because, as you know, gaming is really state-by-state so I don’t think there’s cross market liquidity yet. So, if you look at New Jersey for example, and you look at Pennsylvania, Nevada has it as well but it’s tiny, the revenue numbers have been fairly small and not growing, but when you compare that to casino and sports betting, obviously they’re growing much faster and they’re much bigger markets. And then as far as between casino and sports betting, the two most developed markets, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, if you look at the revenues from August and September for example, casino is a much bigger market than sports betting. I think casino is roughly 77 percent of the total pie between sports betting and casino in both Pennsylvania and New Jersey, so casino and sports betting together are really powerful.
BECKY LIGGERO:
Excellent. I think it was you that said that sports betting is more palatable, potentially, for the states right now with the repeal of PASPA and all of this, but interesting. Interesting. I know that you also said that there is not much consensus in the U.S. when it comes to state-by-state regulation. I mean it’s really complex and I wanted to know from you who are the stakeholders and what is it that they are interested in when it comes to looking at the rollout on a state-by-state basis?
GREG CARLIN:
I mean, it’s really different for each state. Are we talking about online sports betting in casinos?
BECKY LIGGERO:
Online in general. I know that we’re talking about tribes, we’re talking about lotteries. Who would get licenses for online?
GREG CARLIN:
It really depends on the state. For example, Tennessee, which just launched recently, there’s no bricks and mortar casinos there, so they set up a regime, I think, through their lottery where anyone could apply for a license. But generally, if there’s bricks and mortar casinos in the state, like certainly in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, what you’ve seen is that the online gaming and sports betting were legalized, the licenses were vested through the bricks and mortar casinos. But in places like, actually, in Delaware, it was more of a lottery model. In Oregon it was a lottery model. New Hampshire was a lottery because they don’t have bricks and mortar casinos, but other than that it’s generally been through the bricks and mortar casinos. And D.C. actually was lottery with online.