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CORRESP Filing
TrustCo Bank Corp NY (TRST) CORRESPCorrespondence with SEC
Filed: 20 Dec 07, 12:00am
RE: | TrustCo Bank Corp NY |
2. | We note your response to comment 1 and your SAB No. 99 quantitative analysis using the rollover approach to support your conclusion that the misstatement was not material to the Company’s consolidated financial statements. In your analysis you evaluate materiality based on the quarter-to-date and/or year-to-date change of the estimated overstatement of the allowance and the impact on the provision for loan losses. Considering the fact that the allowance for loan losses should reflect management’s best estimate of probable losses related to specifically identified loans as well as probable loan losses inherent in the remaining loan portfolio as of each period end, we would expect that the entire unadjusted error would have been evaluated for materiality under the rollover approach at each period. Please revise your SAB No. 99 quantitative analysis accordingly and tell us whether you continue to believe that your application of SAB No. 108 is appropriate. In preparing your response, please consider the fact that you have already represented that the $7.6 million overstatement of the allowance was considered to be material under the iron curtain analysis. Alternatively, explain, in detail, why you believe it is appropriate to consider only the quarter-to-date and/or year-to-date changes in the overstatement of the allowance for loan losses and the impact on the provision for loan losses rather than the entire estimated error in the allowance at each period end. |
3. | In response to comment 2 of our letter dated November 2, 2007 you state that TrustCo utilized a life of loan approach in its allowance for loan loss methodology since the early 1990s and did not make changes to this methodology until December 2006. Based on these facts, it would appear that all provisions, charge-offs and recoveries recorded up until your change in methodology in December 2006 would have been based on the previously applied life of loan approach. Please explain, in detail, how you came to the conclusion that these components of your allowance (i.e., provisions, charge-offs and recoveries) remain unaffected despite the subsequent change in methodology. Also consider providing us with a revised rollforward of your allowance for loan losses for each period presented utilizing the Company’s revised methodology. |
· | the Company is responsible for the adequacy and accuracy of the disclosure in the filings; |
· | staff comments or changes to disclosure in response to staff comments do not foreclose the Commission from taking any action with respect to the filings; and |
· | the Company may not asset staff comments as a defense in any proceeding initiated by the Commission or any person under the federal securities laws of the United States. |
As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
YTD | YTD | YTD | YTD | YTD | YTD | YTD | YTD | QTD | QTD | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
12/31/2001 | 12/31/2001 | Difference | 12/31/2002 | 12/31/2002 | Difference | 12/31/2003 | 12/31/2003 | Difference | 12/31/2004 | 12/31/2004 | Difference | 3/31/2005 | 3/31/2005 | Difference | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Beginning allowance for loan losses | $ | 56,298 | $ | 48,757 | $ | 7,541 | $ | 57,203 | $ | 49,947 | $ | 7,256 | $ | 52,558 | $ | 45,035 | $ | 7,523 | $ | 48,739 | $ | 41,093 | $ | 7,646 | $ | 49,384 | $ | 41,549 | $ | 7,835 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SAB No. 108 adjustment | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Beginning allowance for loan losses, as adjusted | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total charge-off's | $ | 7,028 | $ | 7,028 | $ | - | $ | 8,350 | $ | 8,350 | $ | - | $ | 9,598 | $ | 9,598 | $ | - | $ | 5,797 | $ | 5,797 | $ | - | $ | 763 | $ | 763 | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total recoveries | $ | (2,993 | ) | $ | (2,993 | ) | $ | - | $ | (2,285 | ) | $ | (2,285 | ) | $ | - | $ | (4,579 | ) | $ | (4,579 | ) | $ | - | $ | (5,992 | ) | $ | (5,992 | ) | $ | - | $ | (1,413 | ) | $ | (1,413 | ) | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||
Net charge-off's/(recoveries) | $ | 4,035 | $ | 4,035 | $ | - | $ | 6,065 | $ | 6,065 | $ | - | $ | 5,019 | $ | 5,019 | $ | - | $ | (195 | ) | $ | (195 | ) | $ | - | $ | (650 | ) | $ | (650 | ) | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Provision (credit) for loan losses | $ | 4,940 | $ | 5,225 | $ | (285 | ) | $ | 1,420 | $ | 1,153 | $ | 267 | $ | 1,200 | $ | 1,077 | $ | 123 | $ | 450 | $ | 261 | $ | 189 | $ | (1,500 | ) | $ | (1,093 | ) | $ | (407 | ) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ending allowance for loan losses | $ | 57,203 | $ | 49,947 | $ | 7,256 | $ | 52,558 | $ | 45,035 | $ | 7,523 | $ | 48,739 | $ | 41,093 | $ | 7,646 | $ | 49,384 | $ | 41,549 | $ | 7,835 | $ | 48,534 | $ | 41,106 | $ | 7,428 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Net income per historical financial statements | $ | 45,510 | $ | 49,244 | $ | 53,031 | $ | 56,540 | $ | 14,907 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of provision error after tax effect (using rate of 40%) to the periods' net income | -0.38 | % | 0.33 | % | 0.14 | % | 0.20 | % | -1.64 | % | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total assets per historical financial statements | $ | 2,578,621 | $ | 2,696,088 | $ | 2,778,119 | $ | 2,863,834 | $ | 2,848,313 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of allowance error to total assets | 0.28 | % | 0.28 | % | 0.28 | % | 0.27 | % | 0.26 | % | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total equity per historical financial statements | $ | 205,827 | $ | 234,844 | $ | 226,762 | $ | 225,832 | $ | 224,584 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of allowance error after tax effect (using rate of 40%) to total equity | 2.12 | % | 1.92 | % | 2.02 | % | 2.08 | % | 1.98 | % |
As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
QTD | QTD | QTD | QTD | QTD | QTD | YTD | YTD | QTD | QTD | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
6/30/2005 | 6/30/2005 | Difference | 9/30/2005 | 9/30/2005 | Difference | 12/31/2005 | 12/31/2005 | Difference | 12/31/2005 | 12/31/2005 | Difference | 3/31/2006 | 3/31/2006 | Difference | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Beginning allowance for loan losses | $ | 48,534 | $ | 41,106 | $ | 7,428 | $ | 48,021 | $ | 40,622 | $ | 7,399 | $ | 46,665 | $ | 39,399 | $ | 7,266 | $ | 49,384 | $ | 41,549 | $ | 7,835 | $ | 45,377 | $ | 37,814 | $ | 7,563 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SAB No. 108 adjustment | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Beginning allowance for loan losses, as adjusted | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total charge-off's | $ | 424 | $ | 424 | $ | - | $ | 594 | $ | 594 | $ | - | $ | 683 | $ | 683 | $ | - | $ | 2,464 | $ | 2,464 | $ | - | $ | 368 | $ | 368 | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total recoveries | $ | (1,491 | ) | $ | (1,491 | ) | $ | - | $ | (918 | ) | $ | (918 | ) | $ | - | $ | (895 | ) | $ | (895 | ) | $ | - | $ | (4,717 | ) | $ | (4,717 | ) | $ | - | $ | (820 | ) | $ | (820 | ) | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||
Net charge-off's/(recoveries) | $ | (1,067 | ) | $ | (1,067 | ) | $ | - | $ | (324 | ) | $ | (324 | ) | $ | - | $ | (212 | ) | $ | (212 | ) | $ | - | $ | (2,253 | ) | $ | (2,253 | ) | $ | - | $ | (452 | ) | $ | (452 | ) | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||
Provision (credit) for loan losses | $ | (1,580 | ) | $ | (1,551 | ) | $ | (29 | ) | $ | (1,680 | ) | $ | (1,547 | ) | $ | (133 | ) | $ | (1,500 | ) | $ | (1,797 | ) | $ | 297 | $ | (6,260 | ) | $ | (5,988 | ) | $ | (272 | ) | $ | (1,800 | ) | $ | (2,063 | ) | $ | 263 | |||||||||||||||||
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Ending allowance for loan losses | $ | 48,021 | $ | 40,622 | $ | 7,399 | $ | 46,665 | $ | 39,399 | $ | 7,266 | $ | 45,377 | $ | 37,814 | $ | 7,563 | $ | 45,377 | $ | 37,814 | $ | 7,563 | $ | 44,029 | $ | 36,203 | $ | 7,826 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Net income per historical financial statements | $ | 14,985 | $ | 15,719 | $ | 13,378 | $ | 58,989 | $ | 12,366 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of provision error after tax effect (using rate of 40%) to the periods' net income | -0.12 | % | -0.51 | % | 1.33 | % | -0.28 | % | 1.28 | % | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total assets per historical financial statements | $ | 2,878,787 | $ | 2,828,815 | $ | 2,912,759 | $ | 2,912,759 | $ | 2,932,621 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of allowance error to total assets | 0.26 | % | 0.26 | % | 0.26 | % | 0.26 | % | 0.27 | % | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total equity per historical financial statements | $ | 234,228 | $ | 229,661 | $ | 228,661 | $ | 228,661 | $ | 221,755 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of allowance error after tax effect (using rate of 40%) to total equity | 1.90 | % | 1.90 | % | 1.98 | % | 1.98 | % | 2.12 | % |
As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | As Reported | Revised | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
QTD | QTD | QTD | QTD | QTD | QTD | YTD | YTD | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
6/30/2006 | 6/30/2006 | Difference | 9/30/2006 | 9/30/2006 | Difference | 12/31/2006 | 12/31/2006 | Difference | 12/31/2006 | 12/31/2006 | Difference | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Beginning allowance for loan losses | $ | 44,029 | $ | 36,203 | $ | 7,826 | $ | 42,370 | $ | 35,095 | $ | 7,275 | $ | 42,706 | $ | 35,252 | $ | 7,454 | $ | 45,377 | $ | 37,814 | $ | 7,563 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
SAB No. 108 adjustment | $ | (7,600 | ) | $ | (7,600 | ) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Beginning allowance for loan losses, as adjusted | $ | 35,106 | $ | 37,777 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total charge-off's | $ | 699 | $ | 699 | $ | - | $ | 356 | $ | 356 | $ | - | $ | 694 | $ | 694 | $ | - | $ | 2,117 | $ | 2,117 | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total recoveries | $ | (815 | ) | $ | (815 | ) | $ | - | $ | (692 | ) | $ | (692 | ) | $ | - | $ | (1,204 | ) | $ | (1,204 | ) | $ | - | $ | (3,531 | ) | $ | (3,531 | ) | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||
Net charge-off's/(recoveries) | $ | (116 | ) | $ | (116 | ) | $ | - | $ | (336 | ) | $ | (336 | ) | $ | - | $ | (510 | ) | $ | (510 | ) | $ | - | $ | (1,414 | ) | $ | (1,414 | ) | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||
Provision (credit) for loan losses | $ | (1,775 | ) | $ | (1,224 | ) | $ | (551 | ) | $ | - | $ | (179 | ) | $ | 179 | $ | - | $ | (146 | ) | $ | 146 | $ | (3,575 | ) | $ | (3,612 | ) | $ | 37 | |||||||||||||||||
Ending allowance for loan losses | $ | 42,370 | $ | 35,095 | $ | 7,275 | $ | 42,706 | $ | 35,252 | $ | 7,454 | $ | 35,616 | $ | 35,616 | $ | - | $ | 35,616 | $ | 35,616 | $ | - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
Net income per historical financial statements | $ | 12,424 | $ | 11,179 | $ | 9,356 | $ | 45,325 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of provision error after tax effect (using rate of 40%) to the periods' net income | -2.66 | % | 0.96 | % | 0.94 | % | 0.05 | % | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total assets per historical financial statements | $ | 2,967,789 | $ | 3,000,869 | $ | 3,161,187 | $ | 3,161,187 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of allowance error to total assets | 0.25 | % | 0.25 | % | 0.00 | % | 0.00 | % | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Total equity per historical financial statements | $ | 214,160 | $ | 227,503 | $ | 239,523 | $ | 239,523 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Percentage difference of allowance error after tax effect (using rate of 40%) to total equity | 2.04 | % | 1.97 | % | 0.00 | % | 0.00 | % |